Re: Thinking wild or make place for a cloud office

2016-10-18 Thread Xen
Raphael Bircher schreef op 17-10-2016 0:54: Hi at all Just a cracy idea. What happend if we start a complete new project from the scratch. Apache OpenOffice Cloud? Not a big Office like now, just a small one. Please forgive me... it's 0:52 local time. I considered a cloud presence or

Re: Re: In regards to Open Office

2016-10-04 Thread Xen
Hagar Delest schreef op 04-10-2016 22:04: My fear is: if AOO exports in OOXML (as LibO does), what will happen to ODF? Most users would just use OOXML since it would be compatible with AOO and MS Office. It may lead to frustration because of the glitches from the conversions. OTOH, it may

Re: In regards to Open Office

2016-10-04 Thread Xen
Hagar Delest schreef op 03-10-2016 22:57: Even if it came from a previous format, the goal was to make a documented format to allow compatibility with other applications. So not designed from scratch, agreed, but changes made for interoperability. That's how I understand the target of ODF. I

Re: In regards to Open Office

2016-10-04 Thread Xen
Jörg Schmidt schreef op 03-10-2016 12:14: From: Hagar Delest [mailto:hagar.del...@laposte.net] I think that ODF was designed to be a fully open standard to give the users back the property of their own data. No, that's not correct. ODF was written this it was compatible with the

Re: In regards to Open Office

2016-10-04 Thread Xen
Hagar Delest schreef op 03-10-2016 0:27: In fact, I came to OOo in 2006 because I used to use MS Word to compile data and one day a file got corrupted for an unknown reason. I discovered that there was no way to recover the file because it was proprietary. I think that at that time the .doc

Re: In regards to Open Office

2016-10-02 Thread Xen
Dennis E. Hamilton schreef op 02-10-2016 23:01: It is a misunderstanding to assume that there is some "strict" ODF conformance requirement. That is factually not the case, nor does anything in the specification require some clear conformance for interoperability. Exactly the same issue as

Re: In regards to Open Office

2016-10-02 Thread Xen
Hagar Delest schreef op 02-10-2016 21:56: Le 02/10/2016 à 19:29, Xen a écrit : Jörg was only mentioning that the ODF format was also designed without compatibility in mind, and that it is an equal situation. I think that ODF was designed to be a fully open standard to give the users back

Re: In regards to Open Office

2016-10-02 Thread Xen
Rory O'Farrell schreef op 02-10-2016 15:59: Top posting: This thread is going off at half cock! Hagar's implied point was that any change in editor is almost certain to cause some alteration (greater or lesser) in formatting. Why this should be and whether the precise file format is

Re: In regards to Open Office

2016-10-02 Thread Xen
Jörg Schmidt schreef op 02-10-2016 14:05: And let me say it absolutely clear: I've heard how MS has denigrated many years Linux, but I have also noticed that MS reality of ODF recognized. Only with better software, we can beat MS, not with stupid sayings. It is easier than ever today, I must

Re: Introduction

2016-10-01 Thread Xen
John D'Orazio schreef op 01-10-2016 1:10: I still don't quite get what this phrase is trying to express, and it really sounds like Yoda to me too. I would certainly try to rephrase it so it flows better. My understanding is that this is what it's trying to get across: "You will often find in

Re: Introduction

2016-09-29 Thread Xen
R. Mark Aldrich schreef op 28-09-2016 22:55: Section 5 starts with "A useful shortcut notation you will often see on the lists.", which makes sense if you read it as Yoda, but I think it would make more sense to change it to "You will often see useful shortcut notations on the lists." That

Re: Become the IMAP client for documents [Re: Differentiate or Die]

2016-09-18 Thread Xen
Peter Kovacs schreef op 18-09-2016 5:38: I don't know how much can be gained by simply using an alternative that is in essence, the same kind of program. I still won't have cloud access and will be far away from using something like Google Drive or OneDrive. btw. have you tried dropbox? they

Re: Become the IMAP client for documents [Re: Differentiate or Die]

2016-09-17 Thread Xen
toki schreef op 17-09-2016 17:52: On 17/09/2016 10:46, Peter Kovacs wrote: (Maybe WPS is a good alternate to you then. I read in the german Linux Why would a program whose developers, in the name of destroying the user experience, removed features, functionalities, and capabilities. The

Re: Become the IMAP client for documents [Re: Differentiate or Die]

2016-09-17 Thread Xen
. With this method different Companies can cooperate in order to achieve their individual goals and save money with synergy. Can someone maybe enlight this point? Am I right? So the question is which Structures does Apache Open Office offers to users? Xen are you willing to pay a sum in order to get

Re: Become the IMAP client for documents [Re: Differentiate or Die]

2016-09-16 Thread Xen
Dennis E. Hamilton schreef op 16-09-2016 18:23: However, OneDrive does accept ODT documents and they can be viewed on-line via Microsoft Office Web Apps (now called Office Online). There is online editing although it might require being a Microsoft Office user. I will have to check that.

Become the IMAP client for documents [Re: Differentiate or Die]

2016-09-16 Thread Xen
Phillip Rhodes schreef op 08-09-2016 22:18: So anyway, just wanted to seed this discussion and hopefully provoke some serious thinking around this. Let's think hard about what we want to be so that we can easily say "Why develop/use AOO instead of X?" type questions. I just wanted to take

Re: Differentiate or Die

2016-09-16 Thread Xen
Jim Jagielski schreef op 09-09-2016 20:11: One of the great things about FOSS is the tight connection between users and developers. After all, most developers are users that have an itch to scratch. If there are things that the user community wants, then chances are good that developers will be

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

2016-09-04 Thread Xen
Marcus schreef op 04-09-2016 11:09: you don't need to figure this out on your own. You can ask me how it works. It would be much faster and more efficient. ;-) How common is not that experience ;-). For some reason in Linux (or in general) we assume or we are given reasons to believe that

Re: Merge with LibreOffice?

2016-09-03 Thread Xen
Hagar Delest schreef op 03-09-2016 19:04: Le 03/09/2016 à 18:47, Xen a écrit : OpenOffice is unusable on Linux, you can't easily install it and once installed you don't know how to fire it up; it is not in the path, it is not in the menus, and you have to provide this on your own, if it even

What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

2016-09-03 Thread Xen
Phillip Rhodes wrote: OK, counter-point to the other thread... let's talk specifically about what needs to happen next, given that some (plenty|most|all|???) of us want this project to continue moving forward. What has to happen next? What is the most important thing/things we could be

Re: Merge with LibreOffice?

2016-09-03 Thread Xen
n the money, I'm afraid? Because the only serious question to ask you is: What do you mean when you say "merge"? Have you actually thought about what that should mean? With Regards, theduke Regards, "Xen". --