Re: [Discuss] Review and improve graphics memory handling
Hi Andrea, AFAIU AOO410 branch goes on for 411, 412, 413... versions. One branch for next mid-number change, e.g. AOO420 would need a new one. For AOO411 we have no extra branch AFAIK, only a revision number in AOO410 branch. I would keep that schema - the goal of micro releases is minor changes/stability, no need for a new branch from my POV, but this are just my 2 ct... Sincerely, alg On 31.05.2015 17:38, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 29/05/2015 Armin.Le.Grand wrote: will check if it's in AOO410 branch... Actually, I thought we had consensus on creating a AOO412 branch for OpenOffice 4.1.2. I see you have now committed the fix to AOO410. Of course, this is not really important, it is far more important that the release comes some steps closer, thanks Armin for the fix! But I recommend to settle the branch discussion on this list so that we know whether to reuse (once again) AOO410 as we did for OpenOffice 4.1.1 or to have a dedicated branch for OpenOffice 4.1.2. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Discuss] Review and improve graphics memory handling
Hi, will check if it's in AOO410 branch... Sincerely, alg On 28.05.2015 07:53, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Armin.Le.Grand wrote: it should be http://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125519 which is fixed and in master, would be a candidate for AOO412, too. OK, I added target 4.1.2 to that issue so that we can start identifying what to actually put into 4.1.2. We do have a Release blocker flag for 4.1.2, but it entails a more complex workflow which I'm not sure we want at the moment. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Discuss] Review and improve graphics memory handling
upps - sorry, Fernand, I took the wrong string as your name in the last reply. alg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Discuss] Review and improve graphics memory handling
Hi greetz, cannot say if this is related - probably not. If you have a reproducable (short?) way to show this, please open a task and describe it there. Thanks in advance, this is important. Sincerely, alg On 26.05.2015 15:26, SOS wrote: Armin, Do not know if his is related but there is a memory leak when using ImageControls in dialogs. When filling a ImageControl with image data, it eats memory and only release this memory after restarting OO. greetz Fernand On 26/05/2015 14:45, armin.le.gr...@me.com wrote: Hi Rory, On 26.05.2015 10:37, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Tue, 26 May 2015 10:19:07 +0200 armin.le.gr...@me.com armin.le.gr...@me.com wrote: Hi, it should be http://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125519 which is fixed and in master, would be a candidate for AOO412, too. Sincerely, alg Thank you for the link to Bugzilla, Armin. That bug might answer the crash problem which seems to be Windows related; as most of our Users are using Windows that is good. However this does not address the overall problem of the increasing slow memory management as memory allocated and used by OO increases when large files are processed, be they of graphics or just text file handling. It may be that the fundamental logic underlying the file structure and its processing will not permit of any improvement in this (I don't know - it is currently beyond my knowledge), but often a change in the algorithm used will allow an improvement in a program bottleneck. Has anyone any thoughts on that aspect? Yes, constantly. For 32bit AOO (Windows unfortunately) the 4GB mem quickly gets filled with modern bitmaps. The mentioned fix resolves that by limiting used mem for loaded pics - not much else to be done without bigger redesigns and on 32bit. Rewrites of this aspect are surely welcome! Sincerely, alg On 26.05.2015 00:28, Kay Schenk wrote: On 05/25/2015 11:03 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: There are constant reports of images going missing in OO Writer. The problem is not consistently reproducible, but is there nevertheless. A recent report suggests it might be memory related: https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7t=41271p=353246#p353246 It is also informative to move back along that thread for other instances of the problem. I doubt that we can dismiss all occurrences of this problem as finger trouble (i.e., improper user usage). Might it be time to consider increasing the maximum memory allocation for graphics (currently 256 MB) and to review the memory management of the suggested compilers? Also, in case the problem arises from background processing which has not completed on shut down of OO, ought a please wait flag be displayed, a flag specifically keyed to any such background process? In these days of large memory 256MB is a very small allocation. Having observed OO's use of memory with large text (not graphics) files I note that its allocation and consumption of memory is increasingly slower as the amount of memory used by it increases. It is most certainly not linear - I have no accurate method of deciding if the increase in slowness is geometric or even exponential. I found John Ha's analyses and comments back from Apr, 2014 very informative. And, his final followup on Jun 7, 2014 certainly indicates the problem stems from exceeding the graphic memory limits. I couldn't find an actual issue that directly related to this so I will enter one, and reference this thread. Maybe that will help raise attention to it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Discuss] Review and improve graphics memory handling
Hi, it should be http://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125519 which is fixed and in master, would be a candidate for AOO412, too. Sincerely, alg On 26.05.2015 00:28, Kay Schenk wrote: On 05/25/2015 11:03 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: There are constant reports of images going missing in OO Writer. The problem is not consistently reproducible, but is there nevertheless. A recent report suggests it might be memory related: https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7t=41271p=353246#p353246 It is also informative to move back along that thread for other instances of the problem. I doubt that we can dismiss all occurrences of this problem as finger trouble (i.e., improper user usage). Might it be time to consider increasing the maximum memory allocation for graphics (currently 256 MB) and to review the memory management of the suggested compilers? Also, in case the problem arises from background processing which has not completed on shut down of OO, ought a please wait flag be displayed, a flag specifically keyed to any such background process? In these days of large memory 256MB is a very small allocation. Having observed OO's use of memory with large text (not graphics) files I note that its allocation and consumption of memory is increasingly slower as the amount of memory used by it increases. It is most certainly not linear - I have no accurate method of deciding if the increase in slowness is geometric or even exponential. I found John Ha's analyses and comments back from Apr, 2014 very informative. And, his final followup on Jun 7, 2014 certainly indicates the problem stems from exceeding the graphic memory limits. I couldn't find an actual issue that directly related to this so I will enter one, and reference this thread. Maybe that will help raise attention to it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Discuss] Review and improve graphics memory handling
Hi Rory, On 26.05.2015 10:37, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Tue, 26 May 2015 10:19:07 +0200 armin.le.gr...@me.com armin.le.gr...@me.com wrote: Hi, it should be http://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125519 which is fixed and in master, would be a candidate for AOO412, too. Sincerely, alg Thank you for the link to Bugzilla, Armin. That bug might answer the crash problem which seems to be Windows related; as most of our Users are using Windows that is good. However this does not address the overall problem of the increasing slow memory management as memory allocated and used by OO increases when large files are processed, be they of graphics or just text file handling. It may be that the fundamental logic underlying the file structure and its processing will not permit of any improvement in this (I don't know - it is currently beyond my knowledge), but often a change in the algorithm used will allow an improvement in a program bottleneck. Has anyone any thoughts on that aspect? Yes, constantly. For 32bit AOO (Windows unfortunately) the 4GB mem quickly gets filled with modern bitmaps. The mentioned fix resolves that by limiting used mem for loaded pics - not much else to be done without bigger redesigns and on 32bit. Rewrites of this aspect are surely welcome! Sincerely, alg On 26.05.2015 00:28, Kay Schenk wrote: On 05/25/2015 11:03 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: There are constant reports of images going missing in OO Writer. The problem is not consistently reproducible, but is there nevertheless. A recent report suggests it might be memory related: https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7t=41271p=353246#p353246 It is also informative to move back along that thread for other instances of the problem. I doubt that we can dismiss all occurrences of this problem as finger trouble (i.e., improper user usage). Might it be time to consider increasing the maximum memory allocation for graphics (currently 256 MB) and to review the memory management of the suggested compilers? Also, in case the problem arises from background processing which has not completed on shut down of OO, ought a please wait flag be displayed, a flag specifically keyed to any such background process? In these days of large memory 256MB is a very small allocation. Having observed OO's use of memory with large text (not graphics) files I note that its allocation and consumption of memory is increasingly slower as the amount of memory used by it increases. It is most certainly not linear - I have no accurate method of deciding if the increase in slowness is geometric or even exponential. I found John Ha's analyses and comments back from Apr, 2014 very informative. And, his final followup on Jun 7, 2014 certainly indicates the problem stems from exceeding the graphic memory limits. I couldn't find an actual issue that directly related to this so I will enter one, and reference this thread. Maybe that will help raise attention to it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair
On 30.01.2015 19:52, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Who of the two candidates do you prefer to replace Andrea Pescetti as the OpenOffice project PMC Chair? [ ] Dennis E. Hamilton (orcmid) [x ] Jan Iversen (jani) Sincerely, Armin -- ALG - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice in 2014: A Year in Review (blog post)
Andrea, thank you very much for the outstanding job you have done from my POV for the last two Years! On 31.12.2014 20:36, Andrea Pescetti wrote: A short blog post with a graphical timeline of the key events for OpenOffice in 2014 is now published at https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/apache_openoffice_in_2014_a Happy new 2015 everybody! Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
