Re: Publish Extension (and Extensions Site Administrator Missing?)

2018-01-09 Thread imacat
Andrea Pescetti on 2018/01/09 16:26 said:
> imacat wrote:
>> Can anybody help me publish my extension? >
>> https://extensions.openoffice.org/project/pokemon-go-iv-calculator
> 
> This (as well as removing spam comments) can be done by any site
> moderator; we have several PMC members with these privileges, me
> included. I've republished your extension. And I encourage people to
> check it out for fun!

Oh.  Thanks so much. ^_^  It is published now.

> For system administration and for more complex work you'll need the
> SourceForge staff instead. I'm not aware of a dedicated contact address,
> but they monitor this list and reporting to this list worked well so far.

I mean, when I publish my extension, the web page suggested me to
write to aooad...@extensions.openoffice.org.  But
aooad...@extensions.openoffice.org bounced my mail. ^^;


The recipient server did not accept our requests to connect. Learn more
at https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7720
[extensions.openoffice.org 216.34.181.95: generic::failed_precondition:
connect error (0): error]


So maybe aooad...@extensions.openoffice.org is the wrong contact
address?  Or maybe extensions.openoffice.org was not receiving mails
(TCP 25) now?

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Publish Extension (and Extensions Site Administrator Missing?)

2018-01-08 Thread imacat
Dear all,

I would like to know who is taking care of extensions.openoffice.org
now?  I mistakenly unpublish my extension, and want to publish it again,
but I cannot contact the extension administrator.

Can anybody help me publish my extension?  Thank you very much.

My extension:
Pokémon GO IV Calculator
https://extensions.openoffice.org/project/pokemon-go-iv-calculator

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Re: Community in Mexico City

2017-06-23 Thread imacat
Alexandro Colorado on 2017/06/22 12:07 said:
> aah would have been great to meet you unfortunately (fortunately) I live in
> Cancun and is pretty far from Mexico City. Good luck and dont drink the
> water :D

Dear Alexandro,

We were planning to go to Cancun once, but in the end we dropped it
because we cannot catch the time line.  It would be nice to meet you.
We will take great care of the water.

Dave Fisher on 2017/06/22 13:19 said:
> Hi imacat,
> It’s been awhile. I hope you are well.
> For Apache wide community questions try this mailing list -
d...@community.apache.org

Dear Dave,

Thank you for reminding me.  I cannot remember why I added
marketing@ to the recipients list.  Maybe just out of mind for a second.
 Sorry and thanks.

F C. Costero on 2017/06/22 23:54 said:
> I just copied imacat's message to the Spanish forum:
> https://forum.openoffice.org/es/forum/viewtopic.php?f=39=13006#p57499

Dear Francis,

Thank you.  That is really helpful.  I have trouble with Spanish
myself. ^^;

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Community in Mexico City

2017-06-21 Thread imacat
Dear all,

I'll travel to Mexico from Taiwan on 7/1-10, and stay in Mexico City
from 7/5-10.  My main purpose is to attend to WikiWomen Camp 2017 in
Mexico City, but I would also like to meet the local OpenOffice/ASF/FOSS
community in Mexico City if possible.  Is there any community meetup in
Mexico City during 7/5-10?  Is there anyone that I can contact with?
Thank you very much in advance.

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Re: Who goes to the FOSDEM

2016-12-13 Thread imacat
Andrea Pescetti on 2016/12/13 17:26 said:
> imacat wrote:
>>  I would like to ask when the Open Document Editors devroom will
>> announce the result of CFP?
> 
> The schedule is not online yet, but your talk was accepted. Contact me
> off-list if you need further details.

Thank you.  I'm going and I'm booking the tickets now.  ^_*'

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Re: Who goes to the FOSDEM

2016-12-13 Thread imacat
I'm not sure on this since I do not know whether my submit talks are
accepted.

I would like to ask when the Open Document Editors devroom will
announce the result of CFP?  The announced time line (12/11) has passed,
and I do not see the result.  I *REALLY* need to book the flight soon.
The cost of the flight gets 200USD more over the last week.  Does anyone
here know the time line now?  Thank you very much!

Matthias Seidel on 2016/12/12 18:20 said:
> I just booked my flight from Hamburg to Brussels...
> I will be there on Saturday morning.
> 
> Hope to see all of you! ;-)
> 
> regards, Matthias
> 
> 
> Am 02.12.2016 um 17:10 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I just decided that I will visit FOSDEM.
>> I would love to meet some people from the List. :-)
>>
>> All the best
>> Peter
>>
>>
>> On 02.12.2016 07:22, Raphael Bircher wrote:
>>> Hi Michael
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 12/2/2016 um 6:56 AM schrieb Dr. Michael Stehmann:
>>>> Hi Raphael,
>>>>
>>>> Mechtilde and I will go to FOSDEM 2017 to become the AOO part of the
>>>> common Apache booth. Michaela will come with us.
>>> I expected you :-) If there is room, I well spand some time at the
>>> stand too.
>>>
>>> Have a nice day
>>> Raphael
>>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] What Would OpenOffice Retirement Involve? (long)

2016-09-07 Thread imacat
t;>>>
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>>>>>> On 2016-09-02 09:02 (-0400), Jorg Schmidt <joe...@j-m-schmidt.de>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> never we forget how members of OpenOffice (for example, 
>> Rob Weir)
>>>>>>> were insulted by TDF representatives.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's important, in all of this conversation, to keep the 
>> interests of
>>>>>> the *users* first. This project is about producing 
>> software for the
>>>>>> public good, not about winning some contest, or nursing our hurt
>>>>>> feelings. We owe it to the users to forgive and forget actual and
>>>>>> perceived insults, and move on with our lives. 
>> Otherwise, what the
>>>>>> heck are we doing here?
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Re: [VOTE] Release 4.1.2-RC3 as OpenOffice 4.1.2

2015-10-26 Thread imacat
+1 Approve

Andrea Pescetti 於 2015年10月26日 08:06 寫道:
> On 23/10/2015 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>> So please VOTE on releasing RC3 (as defined above) as OpenOffice 4.1.2:
>> [  ] +1 Approve
>> [  ]  0 Abstain
>> [  ] -1 Disapprove, with explanation
> 
> +1 Approve
> 
> Verified signatures, checksums, licenses, built from scratch on Linux,
> tested Italian localization, tested bugfixes and ordinary usage. No
> blockers found.
> 
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Re: Sourceforge

2015-06-05 Thread imacat
(I did not see any reason this discussion should go private, so I
moved it to public.)

As far as I read, the GIMP team had never opt-in distributing
adwares/malwares.  They did agree to share SF.net's ad profit, but not
bundling adwares/malwares with their installers.  And SF.net did
hijacked GIMP for Windows without authors' consent.

Goodbye, SourceForge.
https://helb.github.io/goodbye-sourceforge/

Anatomy of SourceForge/GIMP controversy (from GIMP team)
http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/anatomy-of-sourceforge-gimp-controversy

What happened to Sourceforge? (from VLC developer)
https://blog.l0cal.com/2015/06/02/what-happened-to-sourceforge/

I looked into which projects SF.net hijacked, and surprisingly found
Apache HTTPD, Apache Derby, Apache Directory Studio, Firefox, MySQL,
PostgreSQL, Nmap, The R-project.

Apache HTTPD, Apache Derby, Apache Directory Studio, Nmap, R
http://sourceforge.net/u/sf-editor3/profile/

GIMP, VLC
http://sourceforge.net/u/sf-editor1/profile/

Firefox, MySQL, PostgreSQL
http://sourceforge.net/u/sf-editor/profile/

So who's next?  Apache OpenOffice?  When will there be a new
malware/adware-enabled Apache OpenOfffice installer?  I suppose we
should move from SF.net to a trustworthy mirror solution.

Roberto Galoppini on 2015/06/02 04:50 said:
 Hi again Louis,
 
 2015-06-01 21:47 GMT+02:00 Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com:
 
 Hi Roberto,
 See these:


 http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/05/sourceforge-grabs-gimp-for-windows-account-wraps-installer-in-bundle-pushing-adware/

 
 It's not up-to-date, GIMP (and every other mirror project) has been
 unbundled few days ago. Just as I stated above. Also if you follow dev@ you
 know that by the facts we remove unwanted or misleading ads in hours.
 
 
 

 http://danluu.com/slashdot-sourceforge/

 
 It seems like this is not up-to-date too, as far as I know Slashdot editor
 after the week-end catched up with everything, included this. Of course
 there is as usual space for conspirancy theories, but you understand I
 can't help with that.
 
 Unless you have something else I think I've covered everything, if you or
 someone else has more questions I'll be happy to answer.
 
 Roberto
 
 

 I don’t think that seeing this as a fuss and deprecating it as
 unimportant or trivial (in some way) either because it’s a storm in a
 teacup or old news or misinterpreted news is useful to us or to SF.

 louis


 On 01 Jun 2015, at 15:31, Roberto Galoppini roberto.galopp...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Louis,

  I'm pretty sure I've read most of it, not sure to which one you're
 referring to.
  But yes, I'm pretty sure that was done with only (very) few SourceForge
 abandoned project for just some days.

  Roberto

 2015-06-01 21:25 GMT+02:00 Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com:
 Roberto,


 Surely you have also gone over the US press and now also reddit
 discussions? In which it seems as if SF is not always waiting for
 abandonment?

 louis
 On 01 Jun 2015, at 15:23, Roberto Galoppini 
 roberto.galopp...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just a quick clarification on the topic. Not long time ago Simon
 himself wrote an article saying good things of the DevShare program, see
 http://www.infoworld.com/article/2610419/open-source-software/retro-repo-sourceforge-learns-new-tricks.html

 Having said that, recently SourceForge tested the program on few
 SourceForge projects that were abandoned by the original developers and
 kept updated by our editorial team or bots. Given the community reactions
 the company decided to quit such tests for good.

 A company statement clarifying it further will be made public soon,
 beyond the fuss nothing has really changed as of now.

 Roberto

 2015-06-01 20:40 GMT+02:00 Rob Weir r...@robweir.com:

 On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote:
 Just a FYI:

 https://twitter.com/webmink/status/605422600970510338

 I fully expect that somehow this will be used as ammunition
 against AOO, due to our reliance on them as a major download
 partner.



 It sounds like they are recycling old news or something.  The whole
 opt-in advertising brouhaha occurred a few years ago,   We did not opt-in,
 so it was not an issue for us.  Sounds like GIMP first opted-in, then
 opted-out, but it is not clear whether as a community they spoke with one
 voice and whether it was clear to SF whose voice represented the
 community.   Apache projects have a governance model and a decision making
 process that makes that kind of misunderstanding less likely.

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Re: forum.opnoffice.org

2015-04-02 Thread imacat
Rory O'Farrell on 2015/04/02 20:11 said:
 Forum site still running very slowly.

It seems so.

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Re: Office Application BoF @ OSTC, Beijing 2015/3/28

2015-03-14 Thread imacat
Dear Peter,

Peter Junge on 2015/03/14 15:50 said:
 Hi Imacat,
 thanks a lot for proposing the Office Apps BoF. You can certainly count
 me in. Is the venue and time finally confirmed yet? I would also like to
 announce the BoF on the Beijing LUG website because some people who are
 or were involved in AOO, LO, OOo and RedOffice are frequently checking it.

Yes, it's confirmed.  The time is 12:20-13:40 and the venue is the
speaker's lunch room.  The staff in OSTC will announce it in the
conference, too.  Ross shall join us.  Please help us announce it at
BLUG and encourage BLUG members to come.  Many thanks. ^_^

 
 /Peter
 
 On 12/03/15 19:16, imacat wrote:
 Dear all,

  Is there anybody that will attend to OSTC 2015, Beijing at the end
 of this month (3/28)?

  I would like to call for a BoF on Office Application at the noon of
 OSTC.  We may have some talks and know each other, and have some small
 discussion about the development of OpenOffice in the future.  Ross
 Gardler, one of the board of directors of ASF, will join us in the
 event.  And we are still asking for more guests, maybe from MS OOXML.
 So if you are interested in the development of OpenOffice, or simply
 want to know more friends in the community, please reply and let us know
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Office Application BoF @ OSTC, Beijing 2015/3/28

2015-03-12 Thread imacat
Dear all,

Is there anybody that will attend to OSTC 2015, Beijing at the end
of this month (3/28)?

I would like to call for a BoF on Office Application at the noon of
OSTC.  We may have some talks and know each other, and have some small
discussion about the development of OpenOffice in the future.  Ross
Gardler, one of the board of directors of ASF, will join us in the
event.  And we are still asking for more guests, maybe from MS OOXML.
So if you are interested in the development of OpenOffice, or simply
want to know more friends in the community, please reply and let us know
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Re: Office Application BoF @ OSTC, Beijing 2015/3/28

2015-03-12 Thread imacat
Thanks.  And because the venue is quite small (for about 10 people),
please answer this mail if you will join us, so that I can estimate the
number of attendees and maybe seek for a larger venue.

jan i on 2015/03/12 19:21 said:
 On 12 March 2015 at 12:16, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote:
 
 Dear all,

 Is there anybody that will attend to OSTC 2015, Beijing at the end
 of this month (3/28)?

 I would like to call for a BoF on Office Application at the noon of
 OSTC.  We may have some talks and know each other, and have some small
 discussion about the development of OpenOffice in the future.  Ross
 Gardler, one of the board of directors of ASF, will join us in the
 event.  And we are still asking for more guests, maybe from MS OOXML.
 So if you are interested in the development of OpenOffice, or simply
 want to know more friends in the community, please reply and let us know
 so we can arrange the venue. ^_^

 
 HI  Imacat
 A good imitative, I will not be present, but I wish you all the best in
 arranging the BoF, and hope you all will have some productive hours
 together.
 
 rgds
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Re: [RELEASE]: RC3 available

2014-04-16 Thread imacat
On 2014/04/16 21:28, Jürgen Schmidt said:
 On 4/15/14 4:14 PM, imacat wrote:
 On 2014/04/14 16:21, Jürgen Schmidt said:
 the RC3 build (rev. 1586584) is uploading and most of the files
 are already available. Only 32 bit language packs for Linux are
 currently missing.

 I plan to start a vote later today but would like to invite
 everybody to test the new build already ...

 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
 I found that I cannot digitally sign my documents with 4.1 as 4.0 
 anymore.  Is it a planned change, or a bug?
 
 can you provide more information how exactly you did it in 4.0? I am
 not very familiar with document signing and haven't signed a document
 before. The information I found is not clear to me and the behaviour
 is always the same in 4.0, 4.0.1 and 4.1 at least on Mac. I have a
 self signed cert created ...

On Linux, OpenOffice document signature is done via the Mozilla
firefox certificate store.  On Windows, it is done via the Windows
certificate store.

I suppose the procedure is as follows:

1. Get/create a personal X.509 key/certificate with e-mail as the common
name.  Self-signed personal key/certificates should be OK.

2. Import it into the Mozilla firefox certificate store or Windows
certificate store.

3. Close OpenOffice, including the quick run icon, if it is currently
running.  Restart it.

4. Save some document with something.

5. Sign the document from [File]=[Digital Signature].

Before 4.0, the personal key/certificate in the Mozilla certificate
store will be shown in [File]=[Digital Signature].  On 4.1, this is
missing.

Digital signature is an important part to OpenOffice macro security
and document integrity.  If this is unintended, we will have to do
something to fix it.

 
 Does anybody know more about document signing and how it is intended
 to work?
 
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Re: [RELEASE]: RC3 available

2014-04-16 Thread imacat
On 2014/04/16 23:58, Rob Weir said:
 On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:31 AM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote:
 On 2014/04/16 21:28, Jürgen Schmidt said:
 On 4/15/14 4:14 PM, imacat wrote:
 On 2014/04/14 16:21, Jürgen Schmidt said:
 the RC3 build (rev. 1586584) is uploading and most of the files
 are already available. Only 32 bit language packs for Linux are
 currently missing.

 I plan to start a vote later today but would like to invite
 everybody to test the new build already ...

 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
 I found that I cannot digitally sign my documents with 4.1 as 4.0
 anymore.  Is it a planned change, or a bug?

 can you provide more information how exactly you did it in 4.0? I am
 not very familiar with document signing and haven't signed a document
 before. The information I found is not clear to me and the behaviour
 is always the same in 4.0, 4.0.1 and 4.1 at least on Mac. I have a
 self signed cert created ...

 On Linux, OpenOffice document signature is done via the Mozilla
 firefox certificate store.  On Windows, it is done via the Windows
 certificate store.

 I suppose the procedure is as follows:

 1. Get/create a personal X.509 key/certificate with e-mail as the common
 name.  Self-signed personal key/certificates should be OK.

 2. Import it into the Mozilla firefox certificate store or Windows
 certificate store.

 3. Close OpenOffice, including the quick run icon, if it is currently
 running.  Restart it.

 4. Save some document with something.

 5. Sign the document from [File]=[Digital Signature].

 Before 4.0, the personal key/certificate in the Mozilla certificate
 store will be shown in [File]=[Digital Signature].  On 4.1, this is
 missing.

 Digital signature is an important part to OpenOffice macro security
 and document integrity.  If this is unintended, we will have to do
 something to fix it.

 
 So what happens to a document that was signed with AOO 4.0.1?  Can you
 read it in AOO 4.1?  Can you verify the signature?  Same for a signed
 macro?

I understand Juergen's point on the removal of Mozilla library.  But
I'm not sure if we can take this lightly.

Documents that were digitally signed can still be opened and edited,
but their signatures cannot be verified, and they cannot be signed again
once they are modified.

Document macros that were digitally signed can still work if their
signers were confirmed before.  But these macros will not work for the
first time on newer installations unless their users change their
security method.  Newer document macros cannot be signed anymore, and
the users have to change their security method.  I do not know if this
is serious or not.

Sorry I found this problem too late.

 
 I think it is important to know whether AOO 4.1 fails safe with
 signed macros if it is unable to verify the signature.  If a user has
 set security to allow only execution of signed macros and AOO 4.1
 permits them to be executed without being able to verify the
 signature, then we have a much more serious problem.  I'm not saying
 that this problem exists, but we should check carefully to make sure
 it is not a  problem.
 
 -Rob
 
 

 Does anybody know more about document signing and how it is intended
 to work?

 Juergen

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Re: [RELEASE]: RC3 available

2014-04-16 Thread imacat
On 2014/04/17 07:04, Andrea Pescetti said:
 Juergen Schmidt wrote:
 Am Mittwoch, 16. April 2014 um 19:03 schrieb imacat:
 Sorry I found this problem too late.
 well it is indeed unfortunately but shows also that this feature is
 not very often used.  It seems at least so.
 
 It seems rather serious. I expect that ordinary private users are not
 affected so much, but corporate or institutional users may be. One thing
 we could do is to call for specific testing on mailing lists, so that
 these power users can compare 4.0.1 and 4.1.0-RC3 in their concrete
 experience on Linux/Mac. But we'll need the snapshots to be reachable
 again (due to the already discussed infra problems) for this.
 
 It's true that removal of Mozilla libraries was discussed and approved,
 but the side effects at the time were believed to be almost irrelevant
 with respect to this newly found one.
 
 And thanks Imacat for reporting this... better late than after release!
 Shall we capture it in Bugzilla with your instructions?

Sure!  I cannot log on to bugzilla now, still investigating.

P.S. To sign the macros:  Start the Basic IDE, navigate to the document
macro, and select [File]-[Digital signature].

 
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Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 (RC)

2014-04-05 Thread imacat
On 2014/04/05 05:40, Kay Schenk said:
 
 On 04/04/2014 09:03 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
 Andre Fischer wrote:
 Another problem came up that looks serious enough so that I would like
 to cancel this vote, if nobody objects.

 It is a clear release blocker. I agree that a second Release Candidate
 should be prepared. We can then do the right steps for fixing the
 process, but the thing we are voting on is clearly not ready for release
 based on what you write.

+1 for the cancellation.


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Re: [RELEASE]: propose AOO 4.1.0 RC

2014-04-02 Thread imacat
Traditional Chinese not found yet.  Should I wait for a while?

On 2014/04/02 21:16, Jürgen Schmidt said:
 Hi,
 
 FOLLOW UP discussion please on the dev list!!!
 
 Last week I proposed a final schedule for our upcoming AOO 4.1 release.
 We are a little bit behind because the fact that we had to fix some
 further critical issues. Nevertheless I would like to propose a first RC
 based on revision 1583666 from the AOO410 branch. We spend a lot of time
 in preparing the RC in time and the upload is ongoing. The MacOS and
 Windows versions are already available and the Linux upload is still
 ongoing. But keep in mind the binaries are for convenience and the
 release relevant bits are the source release.
 
 The RC builds can be found as always under
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
 
 An overview of the fixes issues, enhancements and tasks going into this
 release can be found under
 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc/AOO4.1.0_RC_fixes.html.
 I invite all volunteers to help with the verification of the fixed
 issues. Especially the issues related to translation updates/fixes
 should be verified by native speakers.
 
 A related RAT scan can be found under
 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc/AOO4.1.0_RAT_Scan.html
 
 I have also prepared patches (msp) for Windows and for the languages we
 have released with AOO 4.0.1. The patches are intended for private use
 only and of course for testing but not for the release. It's the first
 time that we prepared a complete set of patches and we have to test the
 functionality a little bit more. The related full install sets are
 prepared for patches in the future and can release patches in the future
 as well if they work as expected. By the way I have upgraded AOO 4.0.1
 (en-US) on my Windows laptop with the msp to AOO 4.1 ;-)
 
 I plan to start a vote for this RC later today and let it run until
 Sunday night, means enough time to test and evaluate the bits careful.
 Linux binaries will be available tomorrow latest.
 
 We have not fixed and integrated all requested showstoppers because they
 were not all showstoppers from my perspective and we should take into
 account that we have limited resources in the project able to fix
 issues. We focused on issues that are obviously showstoppers and on
 those who are relevant for most of our users.
 
 
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Meet-up Calender and Map (Was: Re: Document Freedom Day 2014 @Taiwan)

2014-03-17 Thread imacat
Thanks Andrea,

On 2014/03/16 19:40, Andrea Pescetti said:
 On 14/03/2014 imacat wrote:
 We are holding the Document Freedom Day 2014 at Taiwan, on
 2014/3/26(Wed).
 
 Thanks for sharing. Indeed, there will be multiple events and campaigns
 linked to the Document Freedom Day http://documentfreedom.org so it
 would make sense to put on our homepage a special logo for that week (at
 least 26-29 March). Do we have one?

   You mean like this?  Sorry I'm not good at graphing.  You are welcome
to improve from mine.

https://people.apache.org/~imacat/dfd2014/dfd2014-aoo.png
https://people.apache.org/~imacat/dfd2014/dfd2014.png

I'm also thinking that, if we have a event calendar (and an event
map), we could share our local events on the calendar so that everyone
can join the local meet-up whenever she travel to somewhere.  This idea
came from the Python community, where they have a meet-up event calendar
so that

http://python.meetup.com/

I shall forward this to marketing@.

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Document Freedom Day 2014 @Taiwan

2014-03-14 Thread imacat
Dear all,

We are holding the Document Freedom Day 2014 at Taiwan, on
2014/3/26(Wed).  There will be two DFD 2014 meetings in Taiwan:

* Taipei: 2014/3/23(Wed) 18:30 at WaWa Book 2nd Floor
  http://imacat.kktix.cc/events/dfd2014
  2F., No.3, Sec. 2, Bade Rd., Da’an Dist., Taipei City, Taiwan
  imacat will be sharing from doc, docx to odt and GoogleDocs.  We'll
also share the latest development of OpenOffice 4.1 and LibreOffice 4.2.1.

* Hualian: 2014/3/23(Wed) 19:30 at Yuri Suangan Caf'e
  https://www.facebook.com/events/597139773708958/

   Please come to join us if you are at Taiwan at that time.

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Re: Media Wiki Proxy Error

2013-11-19 Thread imacat
On 2013/11/13 16:20, janI said:
 On 13 November 2013 09:07, Graham Lauder y...@apache.org wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.com wrote:
 2013/11/13 Graham Lauder y...@apache.org
 I'm having issues editing the Media wiki, I keep getting a 502 error.
 Everything works up 'til the submit process.

 Error as follows:


 Proxy Error

 The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server.
 The proxy server could not handle the request POST /w/index.php.

 Reason: Error reading from remote server

 I met the same issue when editing cwiki today. Tried several times, and
 the
 last try worked...

I did not see the same error.  Which page are you editing?


 - Shenfeng (Simon)


 Strangely, it was actually working, I would do save page, the error would
 come up, but when I went back to the page in browser history and refreshed
 the page the save had worked.  The error is still coming up which is bloody
 annoying  but I'm getting stuff done OK, just taking longer than it should.

 
 I just had the same effect on wiki.o.o the page get saved ok, but when
 returning http://wiki.o.o is called which leads to a proxy error.
 
 It is part of the cleanup that (as far as I know) is outstanding on
 wiki/forum after the change to https:
 
 I dont think there is a relation to cwiki, that runs in a different setup.
 
 rgds
 jan I.
 
 

 Cheers
 GL







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Re: call for help to test AOO www and AOO wiki (certificates for *.o.o)

2013-11-02 Thread imacat
Dear Jan,

I notice that there are still of our web sites that may need SSL
certificates, that is, extensions.openoffice.org and
templates.openoffice.org.  But I have no privilege on these two sites.
Could these two sites be updated to use HTTPS, too?  Thanks.

On 2013/11/01 04:44, Kay Schenk said:
 On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:
 

 On Oct 30, 2013, at 4:51 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:

 Hi Joe/JanIV/Mark,

 THANKS for getting the SSL certificate to work. We really, really
 needed this for the wiki and forums!

 Given the scope of the conversion of internal relative links. I think it
 is reasonable to expect that the project will not be in a hurry to start
 rushing in to convert 100,000 links without a plan.

 Hey AOO Devs:

 I have the experience of touching all of these html files when we ported
 them. I did do url rewrites and we have scripting to handle these cases!

 See ooo-site/trunk/tools/ -
 http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/tools/

 Specifically the files urlrewrite.sh and urlrewrite.sed

 I have accumulated information about remaining links using the form http://
 *.openoffice.org/ and https://*.openoffice.org/

 Look for more this week before a sledgehammer change over the weekend.

 This will be with a new subject.

 Regards,
 Dave

 
 OK -- and thanks for taking this on. I had TOTALLY forgotten about tools.
 
 


 Working locally on a full checkout of ooo-site:
 http://openoffice.apache.org/website-local.html#how-to-do-website-development-locally-for-technical-users

 (1) urlrewrite.sed needs the additional rules.

 (2) To convert:

 $ cd ooo-site/trunk/tools
 $ ./urlrewrite.sh .  # there is a dot at the end - please use it.

 (3) Do a local build.

 (4) Commit the massive changes.

 Voila! If the project wants to define the additional url rewrites then I
 will find cycles this weekend, or I can guide someone else.

 Regards,
 Dave

 On Oct 26, 2013, at 6:51 PM, Joseph Schaefer wrote:

 I don't think there are any plans to change the dual http/https nature
 of the site, even in the worst case scenario of redirecting everything to
 https, the old links will still resolve.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 26, 2013, at 9:49 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 9:34 PM, Joseph Schaefer 
 joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
 No.  Ideally urls local to the site use relative addressing so it
 will work properly when viewed over http or https.  The reason you don't
 want hard coded http urls on the site is because https browsers will warn
 the user about fetching insecure resources.

 OK.  So long as external, incoming http:// URL's will still resolve.

 -Rob

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 26, 2013, at 9:30 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile
 arie...@apache.org wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:54:59PM +0200, janI wrote:
 Hi.

 www.openoffice.org now accept both http: and https: as announced
 earlier.

 We have however seen that e.g. product.css contain image tag with
 http://xxx.
 All references must be relative (without http: and https:). I hope
 the web
 admins can do make the needed changes.

 There are 26,349 matches of http://www.openoffice.org/; in
 ooo-site.

 We *are not* going to change to a system that requires that links to
 www.openoffice.org are all https.  I hope that is not what is being
 suggested.  Remember, we have 10's of thousands of *external* links
 to
 our website that we do control and cannot change.

 Please someone, tell me that this is not what is being suggested
 here.

 -Rob


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Re: call for help to test AOO www and AOO wiki (certificates for *.o.o)

2013-10-27 Thread imacat
Thanks for taking care of this.  People are asking this on Wiki and
forum (and even WWW) for long.  And I know a wild card certificate is
very costly.

On 2013/10/27 16:05, janI said:
 On 27 October 2013 02:58, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote:
 
 On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 09:30:06PM -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile
 arie...@apache.org wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:54:59PM +0200, janI wrote:
 Hi.

 www.openoffice.org now accept both http: and https: as announced
 earlier.

 We have however seen that e.g. product.css contain image tag with
 http://xxx.  All references must be relative (without http: and
 https:). I hope the web admins can do make the needed changes.

 There are 26,349 matches of http://www.openoffice.org/; in
 ooo-site.


 We *are not* going to change to a system that requires that links to
 www.openoffice.org are all https.  I hope that is not what is being
 suggested.  Remember, we have 10's of thousands of *external* links to
 our website that we do control and cannot change.

 Please someone, tell me that this is not what is being suggested here.

 
 No its not, as I wrote in the part you quote, www.openoffice.org will
 continue to have https: but also https: as pr request from the project.
 
 But if I might remind you sent a mail to infra, asking why https: was not
 implemented for www.openoffice.org, which I and pctony responded to.
 
 And if you look at INFRA-6608, you will see a comment from andrea 3 August:
 And we will want to use it, even though there is no authentication there,
 for
 http(s)://www.openoffice.org
 (this is mainly because we receive a steady, even if low, amount of
 complaints from users who cannot browse our main site on HTTPS). 
 
 
 We infra have done exactly as the project asked us to do according to
 INFRA-6608, and that is not correct ??
 
 I actually never understood why https: was wanted on www.openoffice.org,
 but it was not a problem to do it, so it was done.
 
 today is a  day where I am less proud of being AOO-PMC. We (AOO) have been
 after infra to get a certificate and get it implemented. Yesterday mark
 took a big chunk of time and with some help from me, got it implemented. I
 think infra should have a thank you, instead !
 
 
 I have of course a double heart in this situation, but I am sure this is
 not a good way, to work together.
 
 rgds
 jan I.
 
 
 

 were you have href=http://www.openoffice.org/some_resource;, it should
 be href=/some_resource (nothing crazy, but a good practice).

 Grepping href=[']http://www.openoffice.org/ gives 25,026 matches.


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Re: [announcement] Downtime on forum.o.o

2013-10-25 Thread imacat
On 2013/10/25 05:17, Ricardo Berlasso said:
 2013/10/24 janI j...@apache.org
 
 Hi

 I am pleased to announce that all forum dbs are now moved to the central
 sql server.

 The move took about 40 minutes.

 We hope you will all experience a better performance, however the php2bb
 could really do with a optimization (especially with sqlconnections).
 Thanks, Jan!
 Everything is working great!

Thank you for the hard work.  I returned home a little later.
Although I was on-line and seeing your work, I was actually unpacking
and cleaning from my trip.  Sorry I cannot actually help.  The websites
work fine now.

Besides, your MySQL clean-up caused some problems on the server dpkg
package system.  I fixed them last night.  It works fine now.

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Re: Service Maintenance for pootle and AOO wiki

2013-10-22 Thread imacat
On 2013/10/22 15:42, janI said:
 On 22 October 2013 03:02, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote:
 On 2013/10/22 02:37, janI said:
 On 21 October 2013 18:39, Tony Stevenson pct...@apache.org wrote:
 Andrea Pescetti wrote on Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 06:27:50PM +0200:
 Tony Stevenson wrote:
 Andrea Pescetti wrote on Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 04:52:14PM +0200:
 Imacat (admin) has responded to my question if help is wanted, answer was
 that it would be be fine if infra does it (like me) and offered to help.

 If we think along these lines, my plan would be the following:

 You can ignore me if my help is not needed.  But, still,
 
 I would never ignore a helping hand, and especially not a qualifed one as
 yours.

Ah...  That is totally unnecessary. ^^;

 1) Thursday evening (16-22 UTC), I wil combine the single forum databases
 into the EN database. This will mean short breaks on the single forum,
 about 10min each (to copy the tables).
  If time permits, I will convert the FULLTEXT back to MyIsam.
 That's 0-6 UTC+8 here.  I have works on Friday.  I can stay up to at
 most 19 UTC (3 UTC+8), but not after that.
 
 ok, lets do this in another way, please select 2 forums (that have the
 lowest usage) from the db list below:
 
 | en |
 | es |
 | fr |
 | hu |
 | it |
 | ja |
 | nl |
 | pl |
 | vi |
 | zh |
 ++
 
 Then I will move tables in these 2 and convert the FULLTEXT tables, as soon
 as I hear from you, and then you can test. Please give me a UTC time, where
 you can test (today/tomorrow), then I do the changes just before that time.

Ah... it's embarrassing that, I will travel to another city later to
deliver an OpenOffice macro class for two days, and will return before
Thursday evening (16-22 UTC). ^^;  That's the earliest time I'm
available this week.

And, currently, VI has the lowest traffic.  But we have to notify
Phan first.

 If it works with these 2 forums, I feel more secure with the rest, and
 maybe Ricardo can do a check on them since he is in the same TZ.
 
 
 
 And what do you mean by combining short forum databases into the EN
 databases?  So we will only have EN database in the future?

 
 Yes, and it will problaly be called forumsaoodb.
 
 Remark, this is not a problem because all tables (in use) have the naming
 standard:
  phpbb_forum_table
 
 if you look e.g. in IT, you will see
 | phpbb_it_sessions_keys|
 | phpbb_it_sitelist |
 | phpbb_it_smilies  |
 
 
 There are 2 databases I dont understand at the moment:
 
 | ps_helper  |
 | test   |
 
 any ideas ?

The ps_helper database:

https://www.google.com.tw/#q=ps_helper+mysql

The test database can be safely ignored.  It's a standard MySQL
database for testing purpose.  When installing Perl DBD::mysql library,
we need a database to test if DBD::mysql is working.  There should
always a database named test (although some DB admins prefer to remove
it), but you do not need to bother with its contents.

 
 

 2) Friday morning (8-11 UTC) I will convert tables. This happens online,
 and only means slow system while I do it.

 That is 16-19 UTC+8.  Normally I would be stuck in the traffic going
 home at this time on Fridays, but I could stay in the office if necessary.

 
  see above.
 
 
 3) Friday afternoon (15 UTC, depending on pctony), we can take the forums
 down for approx 2hours to move the databases.

 That would be perfect for me.

 it would for me too, but pctony has to go to hospital with his kid, so we
 try to see if we can do it thursday (24/10).
 
 I would really apriciate your help with the first 2 forums, to make a more
 thorough test. And then hope that ricardo could do a smoke test on the
 others.
 
 This is of course a service that infra provides so if you want it
 postponed, we will have to find  a way.
 
 

 And also, please add the date (10/24, 10/25).  It's confusing to
 guess if Friday is 10/25 or 11/1.  (And normally I would bet on 11/1 as
 10/25 is very close.)

 
 Sorry about that, good idea.
 
 rgds
 jan I.
 


 In order to finalize the database changes Thursday and move friday, we
 need
 someone with access to all forums to help with the test.

 Could this be an acceptable plan ?  The time is needed, but if preferred
 I
 can do it friday or saturday evening instead (depending on pctony).

 rgds
 jan I.





 This is now impacting other services and needs to be resolved ASAP,
 please.

 FWIW the total downtime was 11 minutes.  Which is pretty fast
 considering all the changes that had to be incorporated.



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Re: Service Maintenance for pootle and AOO wiki

2013-10-22 Thread imacat
On 2013/10/22 16:10, imacat said:
 On 2013/10/22 15:42, janI said:
 On 22 October 2013 03:02, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote:
 On 2013/10/22 02:37, janI said:
 On 21 October 2013 18:39, Tony Stevenson pct...@apache.org wrote:
 Andrea Pescetti wrote on Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 06:27:50PM +0200:
 Tony Stevenson wrote:
 Andrea Pescetti wrote on Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 04:52:14PM +0200:
 Imacat (admin) has responded to my question if help is wanted, answer was
 that it would be be fine if infra does it (like me) and offered to help.

 If we think along these lines, my plan would be the following:

 You can ignore me if my help is not needed.  But, still,

 I would never ignore a helping hand, and especially not a qualifed one as
 yours.
 
 Ah...  That is totally unnecessary. ^^;
 
 1) Thursday evening (16-22 UTC), I wil combine the single forum databases
 into the EN database. This will mean short breaks on the single forum,
 about 10min each (to copy the tables).
  If time permits, I will convert the FULLTEXT back to MyIsam.
 That's 0-6 UTC+8 here.  I have works on Friday.  I can stay up to at
 most 19 UTC (3 UTC+8), but not after that.

 ok, lets do this in another way, please select 2 forums (that have the
 lowest usage) from the db list below:

 | en |
 | es |
 | fr |
 | hu |
 | it |
 | ja |
 | nl |
 | pl |
 | vi |
 | zh |
 ++

 Then I will move tables in these 2 and convert the FULLTEXT tables, as soon
 as I hear from you, and then you can test. Please give me a UTC time, where
 you can test (today/tomorrow), then I do the changes just before that time.
 
 Ah... it's embarrassing that, I will travel to another city later to
 deliver an OpenOffice macro class for two days, and will return before
 Thursday evening (16-22 UTC). ^^;  That's the earliest time I'm
 available this week.
 
 And, currently, VI has the lowest traffic.  But we have to notify
 Phan first.

But I suppose this is the time back up or cover is for. :p  You
may ask RGB or Phan for help on this.

 If it works with these 2 forums, I feel more secure with the rest, and
 maybe Ricardo can do a check on them since he is in the same TZ.



 And what do you mean by combining short forum databases into the EN
 databases?  So we will only have EN database in the future?


 Yes, and it will problaly be called forumsaoodb.

 Remark, this is not a problem because all tables (in use) have the naming
 standard:
  phpbb_forum_table

 if you look e.g. in IT, you will see
 | phpbb_it_sessions_keys|
 | phpbb_it_sitelist |
 | phpbb_it_smilies  |


 There are 2 databases I dont understand at the moment:

 | ps_helper  |
 | test   |

 any ideas ?
 
 The ps_helper database:
 
 https://www.google.com.tw/#q=ps_helper+mysql
 
 The test database can be safely ignored.  It's a standard MySQL
 database for testing purpose.  When installing Perl DBD::mysql library,
 we need a database to test if DBD::mysql is working.  There should
 always a database named test (although some DB admins prefer to remove
 it), but you do not need to bother with its contents.
 



 2) Friday morning (8-11 UTC) I will convert tables. This happens online,
 and only means slow system while I do it.

 That is 16-19 UTC+8.  Normally I would be stuck in the traffic going
 home at this time on Fridays, but I could stay in the office if necessary.


  see above.


 3) Friday afternoon (15 UTC, depending on pctony), we can take the forums
 down for approx 2hours to move the databases.

 That would be perfect for me.

 it would for me too, but pctony has to go to hospital with his kid, so we
 try to see if we can do it thursday (24/10).

 I would really apriciate your help with the first 2 forums, to make a more
 thorough test. And then hope that ricardo could do a smoke test on the
 others.

 This is of course a service that infra provides so if you want it
 postponed, we will have to find  a way.



 And also, please add the date (10/24, 10/25).  It's confusing to
 guess if Friday is 10/25 or 11/1.  (And normally I would bet on 11/1 as
 10/25 is very close.)


 Sorry about that, good idea.

 rgds
 jan I.



 In order to finalize the database changes Thursday and move friday, we
 need
 someone with access to all forums to help with the test.

 Could this be an acceptable plan ?  The time is needed, but if preferred
 I
 can do it friday or saturday evening instead (depending on pctony).

 rgds
 jan I.





 This is now impacting other services and needs to be resolved ASAP,
 please.

 FWIW the total downtime was 11 minutes.  Which is pretty fast
 considering all the changes that had to be incorporated.



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   Andrea.

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Re: Service Maintenance for pootle and AOO wiki

2013-10-21 Thread imacat
On 2013/10/21 22:03, Tony Stevenson said:
 As you may be aware the Infra team have been battling with a performance
 issue on it's VMware hosts - and one of the things we are doing to
 mitigate some of this is to move SQL databases to a central server
 setup. 
 
 This has been done, and now we are ready to move pootle(translate) and
 wiki.openoffice.org.  The forum stuff will have to wait due to a version
 conflict. 
 
 We intend to do wiki.openoffice.org a little later today, and we expect
 it to take no more than 1 hour to migrate the database.  In fact it
 should be less than 30 minutes. 
 
 We expect to start the downtime at 15:00 UTC.  Apologies for the short

That is ... 10 min later?  That is ... cool?

And what should we do to our Wiki server to adapt this change of
MySQL server?

 notice, but this is the only timw this week when the relevant skills are
 in alignment, and the overhead of these SQL services has now reached a
 critical point to the extent it is driving so much IO it is affecting
 other services.
 
 

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Re: Service Maintenance for pootle and AOO wiki

2013-10-21 Thread imacat
於 2013年10月22日 02:37, janI 提到:
 On 21 October 2013 18:39, Tony Stevenson pct...@apache.org wrote:
 
 Andrea Pescetti wrote on Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 06:27:50PM +0200:
 Tony Stevenson wrote:
 Andrea Pescetti wrote on Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 04:52:14PM +0200:
 Please tell us when the migration is complete so that we can remove
 the warning.
 The service is back. IMO it also quicker. Immediate difference is that
 Wiki VM is only consuming 500 MB of RAM now, before it was using 2.8GB.

 OK, thank you! It seems that in the end interruption of service was
 minimal. I've removed the note from the home page. Of course, for
 the next maintenance operations, including the forum, please give us
 some more time to inform users.

 Of course we will, in fact we gave you the best we could today given the
 circumstances we found ourselved in.

 The forum move will need to have as many tables as possible converted
 from ISAM to inno. This is critical, as we only run MySQL 5.5 and will
 not be install 5.6 anytime soon, as a result all fields that require
 full text search enabling need to keep that table in ISAM.

 JanIV did this already for other DBs and he should be consulted on how
 to do this. It is likely this will be a many hour operation and is a
 pre-requisite.  I dont wan't to force a date on the community to have
 this done by, but we need to action this ASAP. To prevent further issues
 to other VMs on the same host as forums.

 Can I please ask that if we do not hear any offers of support to help us
 convert these tables by Weds this week that Infra will set a date (with n
 days notice) and do the work ourselves.

 
 Imacat (admin) has responded to my question if help is wanted, answer was
 that it would be be fine if infra does it (like me) and offered to help.
 
 If we think along these lines, my plan would be the following:

You can ignore me if my help is not needed.  But, still,

 1) Thursday evening (16-22 UTC), I wil combine the single forum databases
 into the EN database. This will mean short breaks on the single forum,
 about 10min each (to copy the tables).
  If time permits, I will convert the FULLTEXT back to MyIsam.

That's 0-6 UTC+8 here.  I have works on Friday.  I can stay up to at
most 19 UTC (3 UTC+8), but not after that.

And what do you mean by combining short forum databases into the EN
databases?  So we will only have EN database in the future?

 2) Friday morning (8-11 UTC) I will convert tables. This happens online,
 and only means slow system while I do it.

That is 16-19 UTC+8.  Normally I would be stuck in the traffic going
home at this time on Fridays, but I could stay in the office if necessary.

 3) Friday afternoon (15 UTC, depending on pctony), we can take the forums
 down for approx 2hours to move the databases.

That would be perfect for me.

And also, please add the date (10/24, 10/25).  It's confusing to
guess if Friday is 10/25 or 11/1.  (And normally I would bet on 11/1 as
10/25 is very close.)

 
 In order to finalize the database changes Thursday and move friday, we need
 someone with access to all forums to help with the test.
 
 Could this be an acceptable plan ?  The time is needed, but if preferred I
 can do it friday or saturday evening instead (depending on pctony).
 
 rgds
 jan I.
 
 
 
 
 
 This is now impacting other services and needs to be resolved ASAP, please.

 FWIW the total downtime was 11 minutes.  Which is pretty fast
 considering all the changes that had to be incorporated.



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Re: The Number of Active Forum Administrators

2013-10-18 Thread imacat
On 2013/10/18 06:21, Ricardo Berlasso said:
 2013/10/16 Ricardo Berlasso rgb.m...@gmail.com
 2013/10/16 imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw
 On 2013/10/16 08:10, Ricardo Berlasso said:
 2013/10/15 imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw
 Besides, I would like to call for help from another PMC member as
 the administrator of all the 10 language forum, as a back up of me (and
 so will I be the back up of you).  You don't need to understand all the
 10 languages. :p  You don't need to get involved into the actual forum
 operation.  But it would be nice to have experience in forum operation
 and communication (i.e. was a moderator somewhere for months).


 If knowing the forum ACP and moderator panel is enough (I know nothing
 about databases, servers and all those scaring things that run behind
 the
 forum software), you can count on me.

 That would be great! ^_^  Have you registered your account on all
 the 10 forums?


 Just on three of them. Other than the ES forum, I'm registered on EN
 forums (user id: RGB) and on IT forums (user id: RGB-it). On the next
 couple of days I'll register on all the others.

 
 Ok, I just registered on all the other forums, always with RGB as user id.

OK.  Done.  I have added you to both of the Administrators and
Global moderators groups of all the 10 forum.  You may check.

Welcome. ^_*'

 
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Re: Apache OpenOffice Wiki e-mail address confirmation

2013-10-17 Thread imacat
On 2013/10/17 20:51, Deborah Raymond said:
 the confirmation code expired...what do I do now?

Can you register again?

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Forum Privilege Check

2013-10-15 Thread imacat
Dear all,

As Drew requested to resign from the administrators in all forums,
and TerryE's account will be removed from administrators, too, I'm
planning to check the privileged accounts on all the 10 forums, and
remove inactive administrators that haven't logged in for more than *1
year*.

1 year here is defined as from Oct 1st, 2012 to the last minute
of the removal.  Administrator privileges is defined as the
Administrators and Global Administrators groups.  I shall check and
later present a list of the administrators to be removed.

If anyone know of any of these inactive administrators, you may ask
her/him to logged in if they still are willing to help the forum
administration.  Or, in case if their administrative privileges are
removed, they can be added in again.

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Re: Forum Privilege Check

2013-10-15 Thread imacat
On 2013/10/15 14:48, janI said:
 On Oct 15, 2013 8:01 AM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote:
 Dear all,

 As Drew requested to resign from the administrators in all forums,
 and TerryE's account will be removed from administrators, too, I'm
 planning to check the privileged accounts on all the 10 forums, and
 remove inactive administrators that haven't logged in for more than *1
 year*.

 1 year here is defined as from Oct 1st, 2012 to the last minute
 of the removal.  Administrator privileges is defined as the
 Administrators and Global Administrators groups.  I shall check and

Ouch.  Global moderators, not Global Administrators. :p

 later present a list of the administrators to be removed.

 If anyone know of any of these inactive administrators, you may ask
 her/him to logged in if they still are willing to help the forum
 administration.  Or, in case if their administrative privileges are
 removed, they can be added in again.

 Please discuss under this thread of there is other consideration.

 hi
 
 I removed myself from having admin rigths and other special priviledges on
 all forums and wiki a month ago. If I forgot something please remove it.

OK.  I have checked and found no name of you on the administrators'
list of all the forum.  Thank you for all your service on the forum all
the time.

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Re: Forum Privilege Check

2013-10-15 Thread imacat
On 2013/10/15 19:01, Andrea Pescetti said:
 imacat wrote:
 I shall check and
 later present a list of the administrators to be removed.
 
 Thanks imacat, very good.
 
 Could you also provide a list of active administrators too, forum by
 forum? This way it will be easier to see if we have forums where we need
 more administrators.

Ouch.  I should have read this mail minutes earlier. :p

I was planning to, too.  I shall put this issue in another thread.

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Re: Forum Privilege Check

2013-10-15 Thread imacat
On 2013/10/15 21:29, Ricardo Berlasso said:
 2013/10/15 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org
 
 imacat wrote:

 I shall check and
 later present a list of the administrators to be removed.


 Thanks imacat, very good.

 Could you also provide a list of active administrators too, forum by
 forum? This way it will be easier to see if we have forums where we need
 more administrators.

 
 As commented on a thread on dev list, I already removed Terry and Drew from
 ES forums admin group, adding them to a newly created emeritus admis
 group without privileges.
 
 On ES forums, the active administrators are me (user id RGB-es, I have
 founder karma), Mauricio Baeza (user id mauricio) and Imacat.

Thanks.  I'll not do that, but if any administrator on any forum
wants to follow the ES forum, i.e., put these retired administrators in
the fame halls, you are welcome to do so.

 
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Re: Forum Privilege Check

2013-10-15 Thread imacat
Besides Drew and TerryE, the following inactive forum administrators
are going to be removed from the forum administrators' list.  They will
be removed from the administrators' list after 2013/10/19(Sat.) 00:00
GMT+0.  If any one of them still wants to help the forum administration,
please log in before that.

==
(Columns: ID: last login date: group)
en:
ccornell: 2011-08-19: Administrators

es:
(none)

fr:
(none)

hu:
huAdmin: 2008-02-22: Administrators
Kami: 2011-08-19: Global moderators

it:
(none)

ja:
(none)

nl:
GerardV: 2010-02-22: Administrators

pl:
milek_pl: 2011-05-31: Global moderators
mellonedain: 2011-11-06: Global moderators

vi:
(none)

zh:
fong: 2010-08-27: Global moderators
==

By the way, the following two forum administrators have not logged
in almost one year.  If anyone know them, you may ask if they still wish
to be the forum administrator or not.


(Columns: ID: last login date: group)
en:
probe1: 2012-11-23: Global moderators

ja:
NakataMaho: 2012-11-26: Global moderators


2. Some of the forum administrators registered with an email at
*@openoffice.org, which is not valid anymore.  I shall check this later.

I shall post the above notification on each forum later.

On 2013/10/15 14:00, imacat said:
 Dear all,
 
 As Drew requested to resign from the administrators in all forums,
 and TerryE's account will be removed from administrators, too, I'm
 planning to check the privileged accounts on all the 10 forums, and
 remove inactive administrators that haven't logged in for more than *1
 year*.
 
 1 year here is defined as from Oct 1st, 2012 to the last minute
 of the removal.  Administrator privileges is defined as the
 Administrators and Global Administrators groups.  I shall check and
 later present a list of the administrators to be removed.
 
 If anyone know of any of these inactive administrators, you may ask
 her/him to logged in if they still are willing to help the forum
 administration.  Or, in case if their administrative privileges are
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The Number of Active Forum Administrators

2013-10-15 Thread imacat
Below is a list of active forum administrators.  I am included in
all the numbers, but I normally do not get involved into the forum
operation.  So the actual numbers of active forum administrators should
be the numbers listed minus 1.

==
(Columns: Language:# of Administrators:# of Global moderators
en:5:8
es:3:4
fr:4:4
hu:2:2
it:2:6
ja:2:3
nl:3:5
pl:2:4
vi:2:3
zh:2:4
==

I think we need at least two active administrators for each forum,
in order to be the back up of one another in case of someone
unavailable.  That means the following forums will need at least one
more administrator:

* HU (Hungarian, magyar nyelv)
* IT (Italian, Italiano)
* JA (Japanese, 日本語)
* PL (Polish, Polski)
* VI (Vietnamese, tiếng Việt)
* ZH (Chinese, 中文)

Besides, I would like to call for help from another PMC member as
the administrator of all the 10 language forum, as a back up of me (and
so will I be the back up of you).  You don't need to understand all the
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Re: Reopening the Vietnamese Forum

2013-10-15 Thread imacat
I almost forgot:  Welcome, Phan!  It's nice to have you here.  We are
looking forward to work with you in the future.

On 2013/10/16 13:02, imacat said:
 On 2013/10/16 02:21, Andrea Pescetti said:
 On 14/10/2013 imacat wrote:
 On 2013/10/13 17:24, Mr. Phan Anh said:
 I have already created the new account for the vi forums.
 Please activate it.
 I suppose I have grant admin privileges to you.  Please check it.

 Thanks a lot for this work. I now see that
 http://forum.openoffice.org/vi/forum/
 is open again for registrations but all topics seem locked. Could they
 be unlocked?
 
 Ouch.  Thank you for the reviewing. ^^;  They were unlocked.
 
 Then the two last steps I see are:

 - Phan creates an announcement to say that the Vietnamese Forum is open
 and posts it in the Announcements section
 
 Ouch.  I have done that.  Phan you may delete and replace my
 announcement with yours.
 

 - The same announcement, together with something saying that OpenOffice
 4.0.1 is available in Vietnamese, is added to
 http://www.openoffice.org/vi/ (in this case Phan can post the text here
 and someone will copy it to the site).
 
 I shall leave this to Phan.
 


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Re: The Number of Active Forum Administrators

2013-10-15 Thread imacat
On 2013/10/16 08:10, Ricardo Berlasso said:
 2013/10/15 imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw
 
 Below is a list of active forum administrators.  I am included in
 all the numbers, but I normally do not get involved into the forum
 operation.  So the actual numbers of active forum administrators should
 be the numbers listed minus 1.

 ==
 (Columns: Language:# of Administrators:# of Global moderators
 en:5:8
 es:3:4
 fr:4:4
 hu:2:2
 it:2:6
 ja:2:3
 nl:3:5
 pl:2:4
 vi:2:3
 zh:2:4
 ==

 I think we need at least two active administrators for each forum,
 in order to be the back up of one another in case of someone
 unavailable.  That means the following forums will need at least one
 more administrator:

 * HU (Hungarian, magyar nyelv)
 * IT (Italian, Italiano)
 * JA (Japanese, 日本語)
 * PL (Polish, Polski)
 * VI (Vietnamese, tiếng Việt)
 * ZH (Chinese, 中文)

 Besides, I would like to call for help from another PMC member as
 the administrator of all the 10 language forum, as a back up of me (and
 so will I be the back up of you).  You don't need to understand all the
 10 languages. :p  You don't need to get involved into the actual forum
 operation.  But it would be nice to have experience in forum operation
 and communication (i.e. was a moderator somewhere for months).

 
 If knowing the forum ACP and moderator panel is enough (I know nothing
 about databases, servers and all those scaring things that run behind the
 forum software), you can count on me.

That would be great! ^_^  Have you registered your account on all
the 10 forums?

 
 Regards,
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Re: Reopening the Vietnamese Forum

2013-10-14 Thread imacat
On 2013/10/13 17:24, Mr. Phan Anh said:
 @Hagar and Imacat.
 I have already created the new account for the vi forums.
 Please activate it.

I suppose I have grant admin privileges to you.  Please check it.

Drew you may verify if I'd done it correctly.

Besides, I have removed the following three administrators from the
VI forum, as they haven't logged-in since 2010 and 2011: namn, vdquynh
and cumeo89.

I suppose we should remove TerryE, too.  But that is another job.

 
 On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 7:47 AM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote:
 On 2013/10/13 04:46, Hagar Delest said:
 I've promoted your account vietnamesel10n to Volunteer status so that
 you get access to the admin sections of the forum.

 Now if Drew or imacat can give you admin rights on the VN forum and
 unlock it, that would be fine.

 I have enabled the new account registration for the VI forum.
 Please register and tell us your account so that we can grant you the
 admin right.


 Hagar


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Re: Reopening the Vietnamese Forum

2013-10-14 Thread imacat
On 2013/10/15 04:19, Ricardo Berlasso said:
 2013/10/14 Drew Jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com
 
 Hi Phan, Imacat, Janl, et al

 Just now getting back on-line since the last email here. I haven't gone by
 the forums yet Imacat but I'm quite sure all is well. As for Terry's
 account, it seems to me it should of gone also. Same for my account, there
 is no good reason, which I can see, to have admin rights at any of the
 forums presently.


OK.  Per your request, I have removed you (Drew), along with TerryE,
from the administrators' list.  Thank you for your services all this
time. ^_^

The current VI administrators are:

Administrators: vietnamesel10n, imacat
Global Administrators: vietnamesel10n, imacat, floris v

As I actually do not get involved into the forum operation, this
left us only one site administrator, Phan, now.  Phan, you may need to
recruit at least one more help, or contact floris v to see if you could
work together, in case you are not available.  We don't want to
overwhelm you.

P.S. I shall do a privilege clean-up for other forums, too.

 
 On the ES forums, I just created a new group called Administradores
 eméritos (Emeritus administrators) and put you and Terry there. Same
 colour of admins but same rights of volunteers (normal users + access to
 the hidden subforums, nothing else).
 
 I mean, while I think it is great from you that you ask for removal of the
 privileges that you are not planning to use, it's not right to just
 downgrade your accounts after all you did for the forums ;)
 
 Regards,
 Ricardo
 
 
 
 
 @Janl, yes I should be hitting the forums more (easy to do 'more' since I'm
 starting at zero) but I don't really need admin rights to be useful there -
 and if I did become active, seeing something where such rights could be put
 to use, well then I can always ask for them. It seems to me to be the
 better way to go, rather then having long dormant accounts.

 @Phan - thank you for taking this on, it is very good to see the site open
 again.

 Thanks,

 //drew


 On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 10:09 AM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw
 wrote:

 On 2013/10/13 17:24, Mr. Phan Anh said:
 @Hagar and Imacat.
 I have already created the new account for the vi forums.
 Please activate it.

 I suppose I have grant admin privileges to you.  Please check it.

 Drew you may verify if I'd done it correctly.

 Besides, I have removed the following three administrators from the
 VI forum, as they haven't logged-in since 2010 and 2011: namn, vdquynh
 and cumeo89.

 I suppose we should remove TerryE, too.  But that is another job.


 On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 7:47 AM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw
 wrote:
 On 2013/10/13 04:46, Hagar Delest said:
 I've promoted your account vietnamesel10n to Volunteer status so that
 you get access to the admin sections of the forum.

 Now if Drew or imacat can give you admin rights on the VN forum and
 unlock it, that would be fine.

 I have enabled the new account registration for the VI forum.
 Please register and tell us your account so that we can grant you the
 admin right.


 Hagar


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 1. Sorry Guys especially Andrea, Hagar for this email of being late
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Re: Reopening the Vietnamese Forum

2013-10-14 Thread imacat
On 2013/10/15 04:19, Ricardo Berlasso said:
 2013/10/14 Drew Jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com
 
 Hi Phan, Imacat, Janl, et al

 Just now getting back on-line since the last email here. I haven't gone by
 the forums yet Imacat but I'm quite sure all is well. As for Terry's
 account, it seems to me it should of gone also. Same for my account, there
 is no good reason, which I can see, to have admin rights at any of the
 forums presently.


OK.  Per your request, I have removed you (Drew), along with TerryE,
from the administrators' list.  Thank you for your services all this
time. ^_^

The current VI administrators are:

Administrators: vietnamesel10n, imacat
Global Administrators: vietnamesel10n, imacat, floris v

As I actually do not get involved into the forum operation, this
left us only one site administrator, Phan, now.  Phan, you may need to
recruit at least one more help, or contact floris v to see if you could
work together, in case you are not available.  We don't want to
overwhelm you.

P.S. I shall do a privilege check on other forums, too.

 
 On the ES forums, I just created a new group called Administradores
 eméritos (Emeritus administrators) and put you and Terry there. Same
 colour of admins but same rights of volunteers (normal users + access to
 the hidden subforums, nothing else).
 
 I mean, while I think it is great from you that you ask for removal of the
 privileges that you are not planning to use, it's not right to just
 downgrade your accounts after all you did for the forums ;)
 
 Regards,
 Ricardo
 
 
 
 
 @Janl, yes I should be hitting the forums more (easy to do 'more' since I'm
 starting at zero) but I don't really need admin rights to be useful there -
 and if I did become active, seeing something where such rights could be put
 to use, well then I can always ask for them. It seems to me to be the
 better way to go, rather then having long dormant accounts.

 @Phan - thank you for taking this on, it is very good to see the site open
 again.

 Thanks,

 //drew


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 wrote:

 On 2013/10/13 17:24, Mr. Phan Anh said:
 @Hagar and Imacat.
 I have already created the new account for the vi forums.
 Please activate it.

 I suppose I have grant admin privileges to you.  Please check it.

 Drew you may verify if I'd done it correctly.

 Besides, I have removed the following three administrators from the
 VI forum, as they haven't logged-in since 2010 and 2011: namn, vdquynh
 and cumeo89.

 I suppose we should remove TerryE, too.  But that is another job.


 On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 7:47 AM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw
 wrote:
 On 2013/10/13 04:46, Hagar Delest said:
 I've promoted your account vietnamesel10n to Volunteer status so that
 you get access to the admin sections of the forum.

 Now if Drew or imacat can give you admin rights on the VN forum and
 unlock it, that would be fine.

 I have enabled the new account registration for the VI forum.
 Please register and tell us your account so that we can grant you the
 admin right.


 Hagar


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 1. Sorry Guys especially Andrea, Hagar for this email of being late
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Re: Reopening the Vietnamese Forum

2013-10-12 Thread imacat
On 2013/10/13 04:46, Hagar Delest said:
 I've promoted your account vietnamesel10n to Volunteer status so that
 you get access to the admin sections of the forum.
 
 Now if Drew or imacat can give you admin rights on the VN forum and
 unlock it, that would be fine.

I have enabled the new account registration for the VI forum.
Please register and tell us your account so that we can grant you the
admin right.

 
 Hagar
 
 
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Re: [CWiki] new default access rights active

2013-10-07 Thread imacat
Sorry for the late reply.

On 2013/10/02 19:15, Andrea Pescetti said:
 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
 The following 3 are pending since they have no real name in CWiki. Just
 confirm you use this username and I'll enable you.
 imacat Yang Shih-Ching

Yes, this is me.

 jim Jim Jagielski
 marcus Marcus Lange
 
 The following 5 are the ones that I couldn't find (either you don't have
 a CWiki username, and there is nothing to do now; or just provide your
 CWiki username and I'll enable it).
 atjensen Drew Jensen
 galoppini Roberto Galoppini
 jani Jan Iversen
 louis Louis Suarez-Potts
 pj Peter Junge (there is a pj, but name does not match)
 
 And of course, if anybody else need access please provide your existing
 CWiki username, valid for login at
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/ and I will give
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Re: Reopening the Vietnamese Forum

2013-10-07 Thread imacat
So is it OK to reopen the VN forum?

I thought it was Drew that told me that the VN forum has too many
spam without management.  If there is any volunteer administrator I
would be more than happy for reopening it.

On 2013/10/05 23:12, Drew Jensen said:
 I am? I would of thought you guys nixed my account long ago.. OK - well,
 let me know when and I'll go do it.
 
 
 On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.netwrote:
 
 He need to register on the EN forum first. As soon as he's ready to
 moderate the VI forum, a super admin (Drew is the only one active I think)
 will be needed to promote him admin of the VI forum. Then we can reopen the
 VI forum.

 Hagar

 Le 05/10/2013 15:46, Andrea Pescetti a écrit :


  On 22/09/2013 Hagar Delest wrote:

 Please remember that the Vietnamese forum was closed because there was
 nobody left to moderate it. So as soon as we open it again, be prepared
 to spend some time approving genuine posts among spam


 OpenOffice 4.0.1 in Vietnamese was released a few days ago. Now it would
 be a good moment to reopen the Vietnamese forum, and consider Vietnamese
 mailing lists after that.

 I see that the topic at
 http://forum.openoffice.org/**en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50t=**
 64457p=286122http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50t=64457p=286122
 has no opposition, but no progress either.

 All we need now is that Mr. Phan Anh registers on both
 http://forum.openoffice.org/en
 http://forum.openoffice.org/vi
 with the same username and then posts to the topic above saying that he
 accepts to be a moderator, right?

 Then we can reopen the forum and put a short announcement on
 http://www.openoffice.org/vi/
 and revisit the issue in a few weeks to check if the workload is
 manageable.

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Integrate Traditional Chinese into Chunk (Was: Re: [VOTE][DISCUSS]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC2))

2013-07-31 Thread imacat
On 2013/07/19 00:33, Ricardo Berlasso said:
 2013/7/18 imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw
 On 2013/07/18 19:09, Jürgen Schmidt said:
 On 7/18/13 1:07 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 On 7/18/13 12:00 PM, imacat wrote:
 Dear all,
 and please create a task for this
 And how to create a task?  Sorry I haven't done that before.
 Just create a new issue in bugzilla and assign it to Jürgen.

Sorry that I return to this issue so late.  I was having problem
logging in and was on my master thesis oral exam.

I have created an issue, but I guess I do not have the privilege to
assign to Jürgen.

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122913

Please help me on this issue (both the privilege and the Traditional
Chinese build).  Thanks.

 
 Regards
 Ricardo
 
 

 And thanks to you and everyone for all these works for the release
 of 4.0.  Sorry that I did not help much on this.

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Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC2)

2013-07-22 Thread imacat
On 2013/07/20 06:26, Juergen Schmidt said:
 Am Freitag, 19. Juli 2013 um 19:46 schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
 Dave Fisher wrote:
 On Jul 19, 2013, at 9:09 AM, janI wrote:
 It is in principle no good, that a single person decides if a vote is valid
 or not, it sort of invalidates the idea of voting.

Hmm... ^^;  I did not notice this following discussion.

I suppose we are counting the votes, not the comments after the
votes.  That is, whether I comment as for the release blocker # or
for missing the Traditional Chinese version or bc'z I'm krazzzy
is irrelevant to my vote.  The interpretation of the comments belong to
the [DISCUSS] thread, not to this [VOTE] thread.

So please still count me as -1, although this does not affect the
result of the votes.  I have to present my position as a member of our
local community.

Nevertheless, this release is great!  It's really pity for me not
able to involve in the process of this release.  Thanks to Juergen and
everybody on your hard work on this release.



 imacat's VOTE was not a Veto as you cannot veto a release.



 Enough misunderstandings here (I think that Jan was saying: Juergen 
 cannot decide by himself whether a -1 is valid...).

 Anyway, let's update the tally to 24 +1 votes (14 binding) and 1 -1 
 vote (imacat, binding) and move on.

 As Juergen already wrote, we remain committed to make the traditional 
 Chinese version available at the earliest occasion, it is already at 
 100% but it simply came too late to build/include it. In the meantime, 
 it will be available as snapshot build.


 
 do whatever you want, from my point of view imacat voted on something that 
 wasn't part of the vote. It remains an invalid vote for me.
 
 Juergen

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Re: [VOTE][DISCUSS]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC2)

2013-07-18 Thread imacat
Dear all,

The translation of Traditional Chinese was finished (100%).  Could
it be added to the release now? ^_^

https://translate.apache.org/zh_TW/aoo40/

On 2013/07/18 02:57, Juergen Schmidt said:
 Am Mittwoch, 17. Juli 2013 um 20:31 schrieb Rob Weir:
 On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 On 7/17/13 7:04 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
 I'm trying to download the source, ASC, MD5 and SHA256 files, but I'm
 getting errors
  
 I'm using the links from this page:
  
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshot
  
 The binaries download fine, but I can't verify the source.
  
 Anyone else running into this?
  
 well access the files directly via
 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/developer-snapshots/RC/4.0.0/source/
  
 I haven't updated the wiki, sorry.
  
 OK. I verified the hashes and signatures.
  
 However, we should clarify which public keys to use. Right now we
 say four different things:
  
 1) We have a KEYS file in the dist/incubator directory:
 http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/KEYS
  
 2) Your RC page points this file, which doesn't exist:
 https://people.apache.org/keys/group/ooo.asc
  
 3) Your RC page also points to this file, which is not really suitable
 since it is in your personal directory:
 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/developer-snapshots/aoo.KEYS
  
 4) The download page instructions
 (http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums/3.4.1_checksums.html#howto)
 points to this file, which does exist:
 https://people.apache.org/keys/group/openoffice.asc
  
 I thought the convention was to put a KEYS file into the root of the
 project's dist directory. If so we need to remember to copy it over
 into our TLP directory for AOO 4.0.
  
  
 
 yes and there is already one that I have copied from the incubator. I will 
 clean this mess up tomorrow ;-)
 
 Juergen
  
 Regards,
  
 -Rob
  
  
 Juergen
  
  
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Re: [VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC2)

2013-07-18 Thread imacat
-1 for Traditional Chinese version not included yet.

On 2013/07/18 16:54, Rory O'Farrell said:
 
 +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0
 
 


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Re: [VOTE][DISCUSS]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC2)

2013-07-18 Thread imacat
On 2013/07/18 19:09, Jürgen Schmidt said:
 On 7/18/13 1:07 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 On 7/18/13 12:00 PM, imacat wrote:
 Dear all,

 The translation of Traditional Chinese was finished (100%).  Could 
 it be added to the release now? ^_^

 no, it is too late and I won't do a respin. But I will integrate the
 translation on trunk immediately and we can build an unofficial
 snapshot version.

 The reason is quite simply, it is too late, we don't know potential
 other problem triggered by incorrect translation or whatever, nobody
 has tested this version.

 But as I wrote in another mail I will integrate it on trunk and we can
 prepare a snapshot version for testing.

 Sorry but the timeline were clear and I don't want to make any ad-hoc
 decision.
 
 and please create a task for this

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And how to create a task?  Sorry I haven't done that before.

And thanks to you and everyone for all these works for the release
of 4.0.  Sorry that I did not help much on this.

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Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

2013-07-13 Thread imacat
On 2013/07/13 18:20, Marcus (OOo) said:
 Am 07/13/2013 05:14 AM, schrieb Ariel Constenla-Haile:
 On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 11:54 PM, imacatima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw 
 wrote:
 Sorry.  I did not see Traditional Chinese version.  Did I missed
 something on the Traditional Chinese version?

 UI translation is not complete: https://translate.apache.org/zh_TW/aoo40/
 
 I can see that 97% is translated. Not that bad. Do we have an agreement
 that we need 100% for a release?

I'm curious, too.  For a couple of years (3.1-3.3 I suppose),
OpenOffice was released with about 92% of Traditional Chinese
translated.  Do we have to be 100% translated to be included in the
release list?

 
 I'm asking because I really don't know it and in former OOo times we
 have done releases for languages with at least 80% translated UI [1].
 So, maybe a change that I haven't seen in the last weeks.
 
 I don't want to force a release, just asking.
 
 [1]
 http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Release_criteria#Localization_requirements
 
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Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

2013-07-13 Thread imacat
On 2013/07/13 20:52, Ariel Constenla-Haile said:
 On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 12:20:32PM +0200, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
 Am 07/13/2013 05:14 AM, schrieb Ariel Constenla-Haile:
 On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 11:54 PM, imacatima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw  wrote:
 Sorry.  I did not see Traditional Chinese version.  Did I missed
 something on the Traditional Chinese version?

 UI translation is not complete: https://translate.apache.org/zh_TW/aoo40/

 I can see that 97% is translated. Not that bad. Do we have an
 agreement that we need 100% for a release?
 
 http://markmail.org/message/pxgvjuw2j3ukqsom
 
 Concerns should have been risen at that time, it was discussed on the
 mailing list, and properly tagged (if it does not happen on the mailing
 list...).
 
 
 I'm asking because I really don't know it and in former OOo times we
 have done releases for languages with at least 80% translated UI
 [1]. So, maybe a change that I haven't seen in the last weeks.
 
 For this particular case, the translation of the main 4.0.0 feature is
 incomplete https://translate.apache.org/zh_TW/aoo40/svx/source/sidebar/
 How serious would it be to release this translation in such a state? The
 same applies to other languages released in 3.4.* but not in this 4.0.0
 RC.

Hmm...  I see the problem with side bar translation.  And I'm very
sorry that I was in my research paper and did not notice the previous
discussion.  However, there are several issues of concern:

 1. I am going to give a talk in our largest local open source
conference (COSCUP 2013, http://coscup.org/) on 8/3, and plan to
announce OpenOffice 4.0.  It is the first talk after the key notes.  It
would be very embarrassing to announce it without a local version released.

 2. There would be a large-scale deployment around August or September
(6000-7000) in a government department, and they are planning to join
our development force in order to fix some Chinese problems in
governmental use.  If OpenOffice 4.0 Traditional Chinese version is not
available at that time, we could only give them 3.4.1, which their
development could not be based on.

I've asked our local community to help the translation in urgent.
If we can finish the Traditional Chinese sidebar translation with
certain amount, could it be OK to release it?

 
 
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Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

2013-07-12 Thread imacat
Sorry.  I did not see Traditional Chinese version.  Did I missed
something on the Traditional Chinese version?  Thank you.

On 2013/07/12 21:52, Jürgen Schmidt said:
 please don't discuss in a vote thread
 
 
 @Raphael, I disagree we do testing on snapshots since weeks.
 
 Juergen
 
 
 On 7/12/13 3:43 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch wrote:
 Hi at all

 Moment Jürgen. Test a RC and final vote. within 72 houers is unserios. Pleas
 give a a full week for this. Else i will vote -1 because there is not
 enought time to make the final tests.


 The previous dev snapshot (rev. 1499347)  build was July 5th.  That
 was 8 days ago.  So there has been over a week for anyone who was
 interested in doing more testing or reporting any new release
 blockers.

 With the RC I think we can be more focused and verify the fixed bugs
 and test around any areas that changed since the last dev snapshot.

 (Think of it this way:  If Juergen had labeled the July 5th dev
 snapshot as RC 1 and today's build as RC 2, would any more testing
 have occurred?  Would anything be different?)

 Regards,

 -Rob


 Greetings Raphael

 Am 12.07.13 11:11, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:

 Hi all,

 this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate as
 Apache OpenOffice 4.0. This will be an important release for Apache
 OpenOffice with bigger visible UI changes. It is a key milestone to
 continue the success of OpenOffice.

 This release candidate provides the following important changes compared
 to former OpenOffice releases:

 (1) a major UI change/improvement by introducing a new sidebar concept
 where the idea is the comes from IBM's Symphony. It's the combination of
 reimplementing a complete new framework for sidebars and merging the
 existing sidebar in impress and code of various content panels from the
 Symphony grant in OpenOffice.

 (2) 190 fixes from Symphony are merged and integrated, mainly
 interoperability issues

 (3) 600 defects are fixed

 (4) many more features and improvements are integrated

 For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under

 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes.
 But keep in mind that the release notes are not yet final and will be
 updated and polished ...

 The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
 releases for 23 languages) and further information how to verify and
 review Apache OpenOffice 4.0 can be found on the following wiki page:


 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshot

 The related RAT scan for this RC can be found under
 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo-4.0.0_rat/aoo-4.0.0_rat-output.html

 The RC is based on the release branch AOO400, revision 1502185!

 Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0.

 The vote starts now and will be open until:

 UTC at noon on Monday, 15 July: 2013-07-15 12:00 UTC.

 But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
 to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
 members.

 [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0
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Re: Forums down (SQL error: Too many connections [1040])

2013-04-02 Thread imacat
Waoh... You are awesome!

On 2013/04/02 15:22, janI said:
 HI.
 
 I have now been on the forum vm, testing my new access.
 
 While I was in there I made a couple of observations:
 
 1) number of apache work thread  mysql max_connections, which is generally
 a bad idea. The number of work tasks is higher than the actual load calls
 for, so the work parameter should be adjusted.
 2) mysql tables are not performing too well (indexes), it seems they were
 last tuned ages ago. Some of the table could benefit from being converted
 to innoDb.
 3) memory/disk and other resources are fine and not a problem
 
 4) due to the heavy php usage, the site would benefit from fast-cgi
 (requires httpd upgrade)
 5) It seems that a lot of identical pages are been requested, using
 trafficserver would lower the mysql load a lot (on wiki2 the difference is
 more or less double). This might also call for some more memory.
 
 Some work for the new maintenance team.
 rgds
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Re: wiki.openoffice.org is down, and pam is not runing so sudo is not possible.

2013-03-31 Thread imacat
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Re: Forums down (SQL error: Too many connections [1040])

2013-03-14 Thread imacat
Dear all,

The forum are back now.

On 2013/03/15 00:24, imacat said:
 Hmm... we seem to lost the forums now.
 I'd written to the infra team for help on reboot.  We shall see later.
 
 On 2013/03/13 18:22, janI said:
 HI.

 It sounds more like a mismatch between the number of httpd worker tasks and
 mysql max_connections. It is important that max_connections is higher than
 the number of work tasks (or with fast-cgi the number of php processes).
 When correctly configured you will just experience longer reply times, when
 the server is busy and no sql errors.

 I fixed a similar problem on mwiki as part of the upgrade, but I do not
 have access the vm where the forum runs.

 rgds
 Jan I.

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 Hello,
 Forums are outage again this morning with same error.
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Re: Mwiki possible name change.

2013-01-18 Thread imacat
Considering forums.openoffice.org altogether, I would vote for
wiki.openoffice.org instead of wiki.openoffice.apache.org.

 1. The existing community is built on this current host name.  It would
only confuse the community to change it.  This is especially true that
we have changed it just recently.

 2. It causes trouble to forward discussion thread URLs, pages when the
host name is long.

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 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 5:10 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote:
 On Jan 14, 2013 10:52 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 3:09 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote:
 Hi.

 I want to inform the community about an ongoing discussion in Infra
 regarding the use of wiki.openoffice.org or 
 wiki.openoffice.apache.org

 Background: We decided sometime ago to let me upgrade mwiki, which I
 did,
 with great help from many in here.

 After that there has been a relatively high load on the VM (very
 positive)
 and bi-daily kernel panics due to lack of resources.

 It was then decided to make a new VM with a new ubuntu, instead of an
 upgrade in place (to get rid of the kernel panic) which I deemed risky
 due
 to the state (and documentation) of the installation.

 I have completed the work with the new VM, and we were ready to transfer
 the live site.

 At that point I learned about plans of using https instead of http.
 Infra-root has a policy that all logins (not only for committers)
 should be
 done through https.

 Using https, requires a certificate, and the ongoing discussion is
 whether
 *.openoffice.org is really needed or if *.openoffice.apache.org
 would
 be ok.

 If I have understood the details correctly (sorry for being vague, but I
 have not been able to get a clear answer), the users would address
 https:
 wiki.openoffice.org or http:wiki.openoffice.org and get a response as
 https:
 ooo-wiki.openoffice.org or https:ooo-wiki.openoffice.apache.org.


 IMHO renaming goes in the wrong direction.  I think we should be
 looking to get the entire website on to one domain, either all on
 openoffice.org or all on openoffice.apache.org.   Splitting things up
 is confusing for users, makes extra work for us (and for Infra),
 confuses the hell out of Google Analytics.

 I'd really like to see everything under one domain, including our blog
 and even CWiki (or migrate CWiki over to MWiki).

 That's my ideal.   Is it impossible?
 it is highly possible.

 I thought converting cwiki was taken off the table. we discussed it earlier
 and said it should be after the upgrade. since then no one on the mwiki
 side have volunteered.

 
 Sorry, I didn't mean to convert or migrate now, as part of the present
 set of activities.  I meant longer term it would be good to get under
 a single domain.
 
 -Rob
 


 I have written/mailed several times that openoffice.org is a legacy,
 very
 important to AOO, and hope it has been understood. The latest discussion
 seems to go in the direction of getting a certificate for openoffice.org
 ,
 but there are no guarantees.


 Is the issue cost?  We could do a mini-fundraising plea on our
 homepage.  I bet we could raise the necessary funds for the
 certificate.

 Note:  If I understand the security concern with the login, aren't we
 in the same issue with the phpBB forums?  Would a single cert be able
 to cover that as well?  Or do we need one cert per subdomain?

 for some reason there seems to be resistence against wildcard cert, even
 though apache.org is a wildcard.

 latest news is that the https discussion has been postponed, so we at least
 can get a stable server.

 Regards,

 -Rob




 I have informed infra, that I cannot participate in works that causes a
 url
 name change, without having a green light from the AOO community.
 Meaning
 that I am now just monitoring what happens and not participating.

 I am sorry to have partly caused the current situation, I wanted to
 make a
 clean installation to make the VM easier to maintain, had I not done
 that,
 the https discussion would problaly never have surfaced.

 I have no deadline for the change, mainly because it is done by others,
 but
 I am convinced that Infra will end with a solution that the community
 can
 accept.

 Please take this as information, I cannot go into a discussion on
 behalf of
 Infra (I am not infra, but we do have other committers that are infra).

 Rgds
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Re: Blogging volunteers

2013-01-18 Thread imacat
On 2013/01/15 21:19, Rob Weir said:
 On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
 The next weeks will see a release, two conferences and the 4.0 preparations.

 With so many topics to talk about, I suggest that everybody who may want to
 blog about OpenOffice on our official blog http://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ asks
 for a Roller account in advance. The project blog is in English, but don't
 worry about the language, we have native speakers who can proofread posts.

 
 Thanks for encouraging more blogging volunteers.   I'm happy to help
 with the editing as well.
 
 Everyone should note that a blog post does not need to be lengthy.  A
 mix of short update and longer expository pieces are great.  Having a
 regular heartbeat of communications is the important thing.
 
 And if you want to help, but don't know what to write about, then
 consider this:  Offer to do an interview, via email or Skype, with
 another project member, or an extension author, or an OpenOffice book
 author.  Turn that interview into a blog post.  This helps promote the
 project and the ecosystem.
 
 Regards,
 
 -Rob
 
 
 All you need is to reply to this message on ooo-dev and ask for an account
 here; we will then ask Infra to create the accounts.

Hi.  I would like to volunteer to be one of the blog authors, too.

 Regards,
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Re: Mwiki possible name change.

2013-01-18 Thread imacat
於 2013年01月19日 03:25, janI 提到:
 On 18 January 2013 19:39, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote:
 
 On 2013/01/19 02:30, janI said:
 On 18 January 2013 19:25, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote:

 On 2013/01/19 00:24, Donald Whytock said:
 FWIW, my company for the longest time firewall-blocked anything of the
 form *.openoffice.org (Freeware/shareware).  This despite the fact
 that I could reach Sourceforge, *.apache.org, etc., and despite the
 fact that we use pieces of OO.

 So my personal preference would be to at least keep a means of
 reaching the forum and wiki via apache.org. Perhaps I'm the only one
 with this issue, or perhaps it's relatively rare, but still my take is
 that more options is better.

 You may try ooo-wiki.apache.org and ooo-forums.apache.org instead.
 These two host names are not redirected to wiki.openoffice.org and
 forums.openoffice.org.

 Did you mean that ? both are redirected !

 I thought I was making mistakes, so I tried again.  Only
 user.services.openoffice.org and wiki.services.openoffice.org are
 redirected to forums.openoffice.org and wiki.openoffice.org,
 respectively.  All other host names, if exist (and yes they exist), are
 not redirected.

 The DNS are pointed to the same IP.  I mean the URLs (where httpd
 deal with) are redirected or not redirected.

 I just tried ooo-wiki.apache.org again, without cache and gets response
 from wiki.openoffice.org.
 
 It is correct though that ooo-forums.apache.org comes with a page, and if I
 try forums.openoffice.org then I am redirected to
 http://www.openoffice.org/projects/forums/ which does not exist. I am sure
 you have a typo there and mean forum.openoffice.org which works.
 
 As part of the change to wiki2-vm, the url-request goes through a common
 proxy server, and there some of the old names have not been activated, one
 of infra checked each of the names.

Ouch, you are right. ^^;  Thank you for updating information.

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Re: Possible broken link: other

2013-01-11 Thread imacat
On 2013/01/11 23:46, Jürgen Schmidt said:
 On 1/11/13 4:35 PM, j...@autostage.de wrote:
 Hello,

 this links are not working:

 http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/BASIC_Guide
 http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/OpenOffice.org_Developers_Guide

Thanks for the reporting.  We are working on restoring it now.

 
 the wiki has a technical problem at the moment, should be back soon
 hopefully
 
 Juergen
 

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Re: For information: Ubuntu on Android phones news report

2013-01-03 Thread imacat
On 2013/01/03 06:50, Rory O'Farrell said:
 BBC report that Ubuntu will be modified to run on Android phones.  This may 
 open the door for a port of Apache OpenOffice
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20891868

I can't wait to see that.

I tried to install Linux inside my Android ASUS Transformer in last
week  I hoped to see OpenOffice my Transformer.  The performance is
poor.  Android uses framebuffer instead of the X-server for display.
Framebuffer is terrible in performance for desktop applications.

From the news article, it seems that Canonical is planning to
replace the Android OS on the devices with its Ubuntu Linux.  This seems
reasonable to solve the framebuffer performance problem, replacing it
completely with an X-server.  However, I have many Android applications
and games on my Transformer.  I would not replace my Android OS for that. :p

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Re: New year

2013-01-03 Thread imacat
On 2013/01/01 07:18, Sylvain DENIS said:
 I hope an happy new year to aoo
 
 Sylvain denis from belgium
 

Happy 2013 to everyone!  OpenOffice shall live long and prosper(?)!

(Sorry, again.)  I believe we shall have a great year in 2013, as we
have so many plans going on. ^_*'

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A Small Quest, and Merry Christmas!

2012-12-20 Thread imacat
Dear all,

Here is a small quest for you.  You need to be on Linux with mplayer
installed.  (It would still be OK if not, but you won't be hearing
anything.)

http://people.apache.org/~imacat/piano-quest-20121221.zip

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Re: Default Toolbar for Certain Languages

2012-12-19 Thread imacat
On 2012/12/19 11:36, Shenfeng Liu said:
 2012/12/19 imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw
 
 On 2012/12/18 11:24, Fan Zheng said:
 As we are considering about the side bar stuff currently, would you mind
 giving us more specifications on your suggestions?

 Specificly, I'm thinking about installing this on both Chinese
 versions by default:

 http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/cpuncbar

 We may discuss about the list of punctuation marks, but that's the
 basic idea.  This is quite important to Chinese users, as people keep
 asking me about it.

 
 imacat,
   I agree with you that it is a very useful feature! But IMO to build it
 into product, we need a better design than the current extension. e.g. It
 should be customizable, since there are so many special characters and
 different people will ask for different characters on the toolbar. And
 then, it should be general enough and be able to work for all languages
 (even English), with different default set of characters?

This looks nice.  I think it is the proper way to do. ^_*'

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Re: [Release candicate] mwiki, test

2012-12-19 Thread imacat
I did not test the math plug-in, but I found no problem.
Thank you for your great effort!

On 2012/12/20 06:23, janI said:
 Finally I got mwiki upgraded and ready for test.
 
 version 1.20.2 of mediawiki, with AOO skin and a copy of the database is
 available for testing:
 
 wikitest.openoffice.org
 
 It will prompt for a user/password (htaccess), which is:  wikitest/wikitest
 (just used so nobody thinks it is a production wiki).
 
 There are several changes against to current wiki, here are some of the
 important ones:
 - New editor (I ended up using the standard editor)
 - many extensions are now part of the core (it requires that especially
 creative user pages needs testing)
 - special gatcha for create account, actually it is just a reuse of an
 extension that was already loaded
 
 I have done a run and go test, but we need it tested a lot more before it
 goes into production.
 
 My proposal is to leave wikitest running until 31/12/2012, and anybody who
 finds a problem (or a feature request) please make a bugzilla report, that
 makes it easier to control.
 
 Beginning january and once all severe bugzilla bugs for wikitest has been
 solved, I will ask for a vote on replacing the current wiki.
 
 have a nice time testing.
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Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...

2012-12-19 Thread imacat
Some honest thoughts:

 1. These flat 3D plates feel a little weird.  The lights of the
plates has the focus effect, but the lights of the plates have not.

 2. I cannot see the connection of these plates with our four
components easily, as the colors of Writer, Calc, Impress and Base are
not Blue, Orange, Green and Purple.  And we have other components such
as Math and Draw.

 3. The directions of the lights are contradictory.  The lights of
the orb come from above, while the lights of the plates (and also the
plate of the orb) come from right.

But still, thanks you very much for this great effort.

On 2012/12/20 09:33, Michael Acevedo said:
 Greetings to the AOO Team!
 
 Hello, after a few months of inactivity I've decided to get back in touch
 with the AOO community. First, congratulations to the AOO team on
 a successful graduation into a top-level Apache project from the Apache
 Incubator.
 
 Now the reason on why I am writing this email is to formally submit a logo
 proposal for the next version of the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo.
 Previously, I submitted an initial logo on the Apache OpenOffice Google+
 community but I went back to the drawing board and created a second version
 of the logo that both pays respect to the previous Apache OpenOffice orb,
 but modernizes the look of the overall logo by adding 4 colored squares
 that represent the four corners of our office suite (Writer, Calc, Impress,
 and Base) and utilizing a streamlined font.
 
 Without further introductions, below I present my official submission for
 the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo.
 
 This first logo, is the proposed official logo for the project that would
 be used for our webpage and some other materials.
 
 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lETVSrwcgJc/UNJpH6G1sxI/ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%2520Small%2520copy.jpg
 
 There's a secondary logo, which is basically the same logo but changes the
 proportion of the OpenOffice orb making it better suited for the splash
 screen that appears at the launch of the application.
 
 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy8gU24uBZw/UNJpH8UiKiI/ABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.png
 
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Re: Default Toolbar for Certain Languages

2012-12-18 Thread imacat
On 2012/12/18 11:24, Fan Zheng said:
 As we are considering about the side bar stuff currently, would you mind
 giving us more specifications on your suggestions?

Specificly, I'm thinking about installing this on both Chinese
versions by default:

http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/cpuncbar

We may discuss about the list of punctuation marks, but that's the
basic idea.  This is quite important to Chinese users, as people keep
asking me about it.

 2012/11/26 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org
 
 On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:40 PM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw
 wrote:
 I would like to ask if it is possible for a default toolbar for
 certain languages, but not all.  Out local community was asking a
 Chinese punctuation toolbar for a long time, which they were used to it
 since MS Office 97.  Unlike English punctuation, it is very trouble to
 input Chinese full-width punctuation.  This toolbar helped them a lot.
 I submit a request, and am amazed how fast words got spread and people
 are enthusiastic about getting this done.

 http://goo.gl/mod/GTi6

 I know it is easy to do it in with a extension of BASIC macros.   Is
 it possible to include it in the OpenOffice installation?  Or maybe
 hard-code it?


 Hi -- is this new Extension related?
 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/ROCtwTCP

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Merry Christmas!

2012-12-05 Thread imacat
Dear friends,

Merry Christmas!  Wish you a happy new year! ^_*'

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Re: [proposal/question] wiki.openoffice.org future: mediaWiki or Apache JSPWiki.

2012-12-03 Thread imacat
於 2012年12月03日 21:48, janI 提到:
 On 3 December 2012 13:20, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote:
 
 On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 2:35 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote:

 I agree on a lot of the things.

 BUT do not forget that a lot of questions/problems also applies to an
 upgrade.

 - User interface will change slightly
 - Data loss is not acceptlable but the UTF8 conversion might have a side
 effect on some browsers
 - The tweaks in the current mwiki, will not automatically be present
 after
 an upgrade.


 Which tweaks?

 If I knew then I could include it in the new version, problem is that a.o.
 imicat tells that there have been made modifications, and none of it seems
 to be documented.

There are 2 ways to find it out:

 1. Ask Terry Ellison himself.  He left his e-mail in the user database.

http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/User:TerryE

 2. A more strict method:  Untar a fresh-new MediaWiki 1.15, and run
diff to find out what is changed.  Applied the changes to MediaWiki 1.16
*on a test site* to see if they work.  If they work, do the same on the
live site and update the symbolic link to point to the patched MediaWiki
1.16.  This is how I did when upgrading my lab's WordPress from its
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Re: [proposal/question] wiki.openoffice.org future: mediaWiki or Apache JSPWiki.

2012-12-02 Thread imacat
On 2012/12/03 06:35, janI said:
 JSPwiki just announced a new version:
 
 http://incubator.apache.org/jspwiki/
 
 since it is a apache project, should we consider upgrading to jspwiki
 instead of continuing with mediawiki ?
 
 The upgrade will almost for sure be harder, but to me it seems beneficial
 to use products from our own family, that way we help them and they
 hopefully help us. I am also confident that it can be done without data
 loss, which is an absolute no-go to me, we will not accept data loss.
 
 If it is decided to go down this path, I will contact jspWiki and get
 involved with their work so we have a real influence on how the wiki
 software evolves (especially in regard of spam control).

If the only benefit is our own family, I do not see this as a
strong reason to risk for either data loss or hard work.  Actually, the
previous admin Terry may have made some tweak on the MediaWiki.  The
most concern for me is not data loss (we have backup), but if the wiki
can still run as before.

Also there are at least four questions that I see immediately.

   1. You said there will be no data loss.  Could we assume JSPWiki is a
successor of MediaWiki?

   2. Are the currently-enabled plugins have their corresponding plugins
in JSPWiki?

   3. Could there be a test machine that we can test first before change?

   4. What will be changed on the user side?

 
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Re: [call for review] wiki maintenance

2012-11-29 Thread imacat
Jan,

On 01.11.30 02:19am, janI said:
 Thanks I did not know that LEFT JOIN and JOIN has different speeds on inodb
 tables. I made the fast fix, and split xmaint_uids into smaller tables, and
 is running now.
 
 BUT I am dead nervous of deleting wrong data !! so the review in general
 would be nice.
 
 I have also decided to post the user list here, to give people a chance to
 shout and get removed from the list. There are very little margin for
 errors on our database, and I would not like to cause problems (I think I
 already have used this years allowance).
 
 Thanks for your suggestions, I will implement a couple of your ideas before
 I release the final script.

Thanks for this tremendous work here.  I'm still fighting with my
class and research project at 3:00am. ^^;

This server is a virtual machine.  There is a limit to its CPU
power.  And Andrea's suggestion is right.  Join operations actually
creats a big n times m table first and then filter.  That sucks when n
and m are both large.

 
 Jan.
 
 
 
 On 29 November 2012 19:09, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
 
 On 29/11/2012 janI wrote:

 ooo-wiki VM is so weak (compared to my notebook) that a lot of my
 special
 select/join statements timed out...and the just because I have a simple
 where clause where user_id in (select user_id from wiki_maint_uids)


 I only had a quick look yesterday and I cannot check now, but there were
 several possible speed improvements, including using a simple JOIN instead
 if a LEFT JOIN and then discarding NULL matches, introducing a primary key
 or an index in the wiki_maint_uids table and using update on joins instead
 of subqueries. I didn't test any of these, and I didn't see the database,
 so don't trust the lines above too much! They are just semi-random thoughts
 based on the code I saw yesterday, and it could turn out that these changes
 slow down the queries instead of improving them.

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Re: Registration as New User

2012-11-24 Thread imacat
On 2012/11/24 23:59, Bob Berrey said:
 Please register me as a new user of openoffice.

What do you mean by register a new user?  OpenOffice does not ask
for registration anymore.  There is no need to register anything.

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Re: Registration as New User

2012-11-24 Thread imacat
於 01.11.25 05:03am, Rob Weir 提到:
 On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 2:16 PM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, Robert,

 As you are not subscribed to the list you missed imacat answer that I'm
 copying below.

 As she said, Apache OpenOffice do not ask for registration: it's a free
 product and you can download it for free(1) and use it without limit(2) and
 without registration

 
 If he was installing an old version of OOo it would attempt to
 register and fail.  The user might have experienced that and then
 tried to register manually.
 
 Closest thing we have to registration is to invite the user to sign up
 to our announcement list and/or follow us on Facebook for future
 announcements,.

Actually, I also suspect the user might try to register the
www.openoffice.org website, as before.  Or the forums, or the wiki, or
the mailing lists, or even the committer account.  That's the reason I
asked What do you mean by 'register a new user'?

Thanks to RGB.ES for reminding us that the user might not be on the
list.

 
 -Rob
 
 (1) http://www.openoffice.org/download/
 (2) http://www.openoffice.org/why/why_free.html

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 On 2012/11/24 23:59, Bob Berrey said:
 Please register me as a new user of openoffice.

 What do you mean by register a new user?  OpenOffice does not ask
 for registration anymore.  There is no need to register anything.

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Re: Subscribing to mailing list

2012-11-19 Thread imacat
On 2012/11/20 07:46, Miguel Diaz said:
 I would like to subscribe to this mailing list. Please let me know what needs 
 to be done, thank you.

Send a mail to dev-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org, follow the
instruction in the confirmation mail, and you are done.

 
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Re: How is the conference going in SinSheim?

2012-11-08 Thread imacat
On 2012/11/08 07:37, Andrea Pescetti aid:
 On 07/11/2012 Fan Zheng wrote:
 Suggestion:
 We should assign a specified person be responsible to broadcasting the
 status and the progress online, before the next CONF.
 
 I agree, but choose someone who is not a speaker and make sure he has
 access to Roller (and has actually tried to use it) before the
 conference starts. This way we can be sure that communication will be
 efficient.

I'm kind of doing it now, on our Google plus and Facebook.  Although I
started it a little late and only posted the current topic.

 
 Regards,
   Andrea.


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Rony: Scripting Apache OpenOffice

2012-11-08 Thread imacat
Currently running: Rony: Scripting Apache OpenOffice

Rony from Austria is illustrating the object structure of OpenOffice UNO
API and giving expamples.

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Thank You for Everyone in OpenOffice Track at ApacheCon Europe 2012

2012-11-08 Thread imacat
Thank you for everyone who had come to our OpenOffice Track @
ApacheCon Europe 2012.  It's the first time we have a chance to meet n
person since we moved from a company-driven project to a
community-driven project, and since OOoCon 2010 Budapest.  It's so nice
to meet all you cool people here.  I learned a lot in all aspects, from
technical movement, community development, marketing, culture, etc..
Hoping to see you next time soon.

P.S. I missed the time when you took the picture.   That is a HUGE
regret.

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Re: Andre: OpenOffice Build System

2012-11-08 Thread imacat
On 2012/11/08 14:59, imacat said:
 On 2012/11/08 14:07, Fan Zheng said:
 thanks again!
 BTW, may i ask that when will the session about the CLOUD AOO start?
 
 It was yesterday.  It was a great success that the audiences
 doubles.  The power of HTML5 is amazing.  I cannot help to think of we
 should add [#html5] before each of our subjects next time. :p

Andrea has uploaded the slides of CLOUD AOO at:

http://www.slideshare.net/pescetti/cloud-apache-openoffice-based-on-html5

Also you may check Andrea's account in the blog: Day 2:

https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/apache_openoffice_track_at_apachecon

 
 Sorry I only start more detailed reports today.  The network is
 messy here and we have no power at the audience seats.  It's really hard
 to keep reconnect, post and listen at the same time.  I myself would
 like to listen but not reconnect for hours. :p
 
 在 2012/11/8 8:42 PM,imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw写道:

 Now running: Andre: OpenOffice Build System

 Andre from Greman is explaining about the build system of OpenOffice,
 it's design principles, possible alternatives.  This talk is essential
 to people who want to build OpenOffice themselves and dig into the
 OpenOffice source tree and build system.

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Re: Call for papers: ApacheCon North America, Portland, Feb 2013

2012-11-08 Thread imacat
On 2012/11/08 19:19, Andrea Pescetti said:
 On 23/10/2012 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
 especially those who live in the US may be pleased
 to know that the website of the next ApacheCon North America is online:
 http://na.apachecon.com/
 The conference will take place in Portland, Oregon, USA, 26-28 Feb 2013.
 The Call for Papers is already open and will stay open until 12 Nov 2012
 
 If anybody missed this: the deadline for submitting talks is 11 Nov (so
 in 3 days; and I was mistaken in writing 12 Nov, apparently it's closing
 one day earlier).
 
 North-American community members, please do submit a talk (if someone
 needs an incentive: having a talk accepted will save you the 1300 USD
 admission fee). Others are welcome too, of course.
 
 I won't attend ApacheCon NA or submit a talk, for a few reasons:

I may not attend to ApacheCon NA 2013, too.  Although I would love
to meet more of our OpenOffice US community in person, my school project
is really tight.  I would have a serious problem if you see me in
ApacheCon NA 2013. :p

 1) Time. ApacheCon is amazing, but I can't take another week off from
 my, totally unrelated, job to attend the US edition too. (I also prefer
 to spend my money in different ways, but time is the main issue).
 
 2) Overlapping events. In the first weekend of that month (February
 2013) we will already have FOSDEM in Brussels, which I will very likely
 attend.
 
 3) Conference spirit. ApacheCon US seems a business-oriented conference,
 while ApacheCon EU is the community edition. We have plenty of project
 members, especially in North America, who will feel perfectly at home in
 a business-oriented conference, while the community edition is just
 fine for me.
 
 I might be wrong about item 3, but a lot of people on this list have
 probably attended both ApacheCon NA and ApacheCon EU and can explain the
 difference better than I can.
 
 Regards,
   Andrea.


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