Re: English dictionary (Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary)

2014-10-28 Thread Alphonso Whitfield III





Wrong answer.The end user should not have to fix anything it should work when 
the product is downloaded or the application should not be included in the 
download. 

It worked without difficulty prior to the latest version being released. I sent 
true end users to download the software , they downloaded the software and the 
spell check dictionary did not work. This damages our credibility as an 
alternative solution to pay for products that are available. 

What is the timeline for the download to be corrected? 




Alphonso Whitfield III 
912-590-6266 Sales Office 
912-590-6139 Ops Center 
i...@thevitalportal.com 
Vital Inc. 
315 Plant Ave 
Suite E 

Waycross, Georgia 31501 
























- Original Message -

From: Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org 
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org, market...@openoffice.apache.org 
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 4:44:54 PM 
Subject: English dictionary (Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary) 

On 27/10/2014 Alphonso Whitfield III wrote: 
 When is the English language dictionary going to be fixed in the spell 
 checker application? 

The English dictionary is not supposed to be fixed since it already 
works. If it doesn't work for you, try resettin your user profile. There 
are plenty of explanations around, see for example 
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12426 

Note that your comment has nothing to do with the original topic of this 
discussion. Please do change at least the subject (and possibly start a 
new discussion instead of replying to an existing one). 

Regards, 
Andrea. 

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RE: English dictionary (Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary)

2014-10-28 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
There is no wrong answer here.

The question is, do you want to fix your immediate problem, or are you willing 
to wait until there is something in the installer to destroy your profile every 
time you install an update, or something else?

Andrea described the state of affairs and the options for working around it 
that are available now.

Let's look a little deeper.

There are occasions where the user profile carries information that causes 
opening of an application to fail because of a document-recovery failure or 
other corruption of previous work. There may also be problems because an user 
profile is corrupted in some manner, all by itself.  This is because some sort 
of corruption happened already, and restarting doesn't improve matters.

If we could tell that this was the case in the software, OpenOffice could 
request permission to fix it immediately on it being detected.  It would not 
have anything to do with installing updates.  (The reason for engaging users is 
that there may be other consequences if the fix involves deleting the user 
profile or destruction of autosave material.)

Alternatively, there could be some sort of option in the current 
document-recovery-failure message to ask if the user profile should be reset.  
I.e., give the user a way to break out of the problem by selecting a don't 
recover option on the dialog, or something.  Again, this has nothing to do with 
giving magical powers to the installer.

This is easy to say.  It may be hard to implement.  And it requires some 
volunteers (not just one) to tease it out, come up with fixes, verify the 
situation by intentionally creating document-recovery problems, and also ensure 
that the remedy is otherwise benign.  That will take volunteers who are 
equipped to deal with the problem and have both the desire and the opportunity 
to work on it.

I agree that it would be valuable to have such a remedy, and anything that 
inspires user confidence is important.   You might want to find a bug to vote 
for, such as 
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=71681.
  Or https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=61610. 
There are others (I found over 100 bugzilla entries using search on document 
recovery.  There are many ways for there to be corruption of one kind or 
another.

 - Dennis


-Original Message-
From: Alphonso Whitfield III [mailto:awhitfi...@vital-inet.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 20:07
To: market...@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: English dictionary (Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary)






Wrong answer.The end user should not have to fix anything it should work when 
the product is downloaded or the application should not be included in the 
download. 

It worked without difficulty prior to the latest version being released. I sent 
true end users to download the software , they downloaded the software and the 
spell check dictionary did not work. This damages our credibility as an 
alternative solution to pay for products that are available. 

What is the timeline for the download to be corrected? 




Alphonso Whitfield III 
912-590-6266 Sales Office 
912-590-6139 Ops Center 
i...@thevitalportal.com 
Vital Inc. 
315 Plant Ave 
Suite E 

Waycross, Georgia 31501 
























- Original Message -

From: Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org 
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org, market...@openoffice.apache.org 
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 4:44:54 PM 
Subject: English dictionary (Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary) 

On 27/10/2014 Alphonso Whitfield III wrote: 
 When is the English language dictionary going to be fixed in the spell 
 checker application? 

The English dictionary is not supposed to be fixed since it already 
works. If it doesn't work for you, try resettin your user profile. There 
are plenty of explanations around, see for example 
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12426 

Note that your comment has nothing to do with the original topic of this 
discussion. Please do change at least the subject (and possibly start a 
new discussion instead of replying to an existing one). 

Regards, 
Andrea. 

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RE: English dictionary (Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary) - OOPS

2014-10-28 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I am even more confusing than usual.  Alphonso thinks that the English 
dictionary is broken, but it does not appear to be and the breakage may be 
related to some problem in the user profile, as Andrea reported.  I confused 
this simple case with others where the remedy is also to delete the user 
profile.

There's still no wrong answer here, but my response is not relevant to the 
situation being complained about.

-Original Message-
From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 10:28
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: RE: English dictionary (Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary)

There is no wrong answer here.

The question is, do you want to fix your immediate problem, or are you willing 
to wait until there is something in the installer to destroy your profile every 
time you install an update, or something else?

Andrea described the state of affairs and the options for working around it 
that are available now.

[ ... ]


-Original Message-
From: Alphonso Whitfield III [mailto:awhitfi...@vital-inet.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 20:07
To: market...@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: English dictionary (Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary)


Wrong answer.The end user should not have to fix anything it should work when 
the product is downloaded or the application should not be included in the 
download. 

It worked without difficulty prior to the latest version being released. I sent 
true end users to download the software , they downloaded the software and the 
spell check dictionary did not work. This damages our credibility as an 
alternative solution to pay for products that are available. 

What is the timeline for the download to be corrected? 

Alphonso Whitfield III 
912-590-6266 Sales Office 
912-590-6139 Ops Center 
i...@thevitalportal.com 
Vital Inc. 
315 Plant Ave 
Suite E 

Waycross, Georgia 31501 
























- Original Message -

From: Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org 
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org, market...@openoffice.apache.org 
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 4:44:54 PM 
Subject: English dictionary (Re: 2015 -- Our 30th Anniversary) 

On 27/10/2014 Alphonso Whitfield III wrote: 
 When is the English language dictionary going to be fixed in the spell 
 checker application? 

The English dictionary is not supposed to be fixed since it already 
works. If it doesn't work for you, try resettin your user profile. There 
are plenty of explanations around, see for example 
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12426 

Note that your comment has nothing to do with the original topic of this 
discussion. Please do change at least the subject (and possibly start a 
new discussion instead of replying to an existing one). 

Regards, 
Andrea. 

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