Re: [Discussion] Switch to Git?

2017-09-21 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: > I know Git is the repository-of-the-decade, and therefore a switch to it > is probably inevitable, just like the switch from RCS to SCCS and from SCCS > to Subversion. > > Just as a matter of curiosity, which IDE's do not

Re: [Discussion] Switch to Git?

2017-09-19 Thread jonathon
On 09/14/2017 03:45 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > Here is a difference between Git and SVN that could be important. Probably not relevant, but the extension for version control of documents created with AOo uses SVN, not Git. jonathon

Re: [Discussion] Switch to Git?

2017-09-19 Thread Jim Jagielski
I use git-svn and get the benefit of both. > On Sep 19, 2017, at 1:51 PM, Phillip Rhodes wrote: > > Unless there's some compelling technical reason for keep SVN, of which > I am unaware, I am +1 on switching to Git. If nothing else, from an > "optics" perspective it

Re: [Discussion] Switch to Git?

2017-09-19 Thread Phillip Rhodes
Unless there's some compelling technical reason for keep SVN, of which I am unaware, I am +1 on switching to Git. If nothing else, from an "optics" perspective it keeps potential new contributors from looking at the project and thinking "SVN? WTF? Why is this project using obsolete tech like

Re: [Discussion] Switch to Git?

2017-09-19 Thread Herbert Duerr
On 09/18/2017 06:30 PM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 7:44 PM, Herbert Duerr wrote: >> On 09/17/2017 04:04 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: >>> On 14/09/2017 Dave Fisher wrote: does SVN vs. GIT prevent new developers from volunteering? >>> >>> I think this is

Re: [Discussion] Switch to Git?

2017-09-18 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 7:44 PM, Herbert Duerr wrote: > On 09/17/2017 04:04 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > > On 14/09/2017 Dave Fisher wrote: > >> does SVN vs. GIT prevent new developers from volunteering? > > > > I think this is the key question, even though there are many good

Re: [Discussion] Switch to Git?

2017-09-18 Thread Herbert Duerr
On 09/17/2017 04:04 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > On 14/09/2017 Dave Fisher wrote: >> does SVN vs. GIT prevent new developers from volunteering? > > I think this is the key question, even though there are many good points > also in what others replied. > > We currently have a couple semi-official

Re: [Discussion] Switch to Git?

2017-09-18 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
Yes, git-svn lacks quite a few features and can be problematic. Besides, 1 VCS and 1 way of doing things (ie. Git only everywhere) is always easier to manage than SVN here, a read-only delayed (possibly by months, when it breaks) Git copy on GitHub, and possibly git-svn on the users' end. On

Re: [Discussion] Switch to Git?

2017-09-18 Thread Peter kovacs
I failed using git svn clone ... Git is doing some history scans that cause to run for forever. I have not found any way to circumvent that scan. I have forked the apache repo on github and then pulled from there. That's an easier workflow for me. What I miss is a push functionallity. But

Re: [Discussion] Switch to Git?

2017-09-17 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Patricia Shanahan wrote: The big new developer issue may be lack of Subversion experience. Git seems to be the repository-of-the-decade. This can be circumvented by using git as follows: $ git svn clone https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/AOO414 and similar. I would honestly

Re: [Discussion] Switch to Git?

2017-09-17 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 9/17/2017 9:04 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 14/09/2017 Dave Fisher wrote: does SVN vs. GIT prevent new developers from volunteering? I think this is the key question, even though there are many good points also in what others replied. We currently have a couple semi-official GIT

Re: [Discussion] Switch to Git?

2017-09-17 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 14/09/2017 Dave Fisher wrote: does SVN vs. GIT prevent new developers from volunteering? I think this is the key question, even though there are many good points also in what others replied. We currently have a couple semi-official GIT mirrors: one on Github in the ASF organization page

Re: [Discussion] Switch to Git?

2017-09-15 Thread Peter Kovacs
+1 in the release First Switch After. Am 15. September 2017 04:51:29 MESZ schrieb Dave Fisher : >We must not block 4.1.4. We must release soon. > >Regards, >Dave > >Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 14, 2017, at 7:36 PM, Damjan Jovanovic >wrote: >> >> The

Re: [Discussion] Switch to Git?

2017-09-14 Thread Dave Fisher
We must not block 4.1.4. We must release soon. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 14, 2017, at 7:36 PM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: > > The process is, we vote, then get Infra to switch us. > > Many big and small Apache projects have switched to Git, eg. Apache

Re: [Discussion] Switch to Git?

2017-09-14 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
The process is, we vote, then get Infra to switch us. Many big and small Apache projects have switched to Git, eg. Apache Commons. On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 4:26 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: > I would like to add one more condition: We should not move until the > process we will

Re: [Discussion] Switch to Git?

2017-09-14 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I would like to add one more condition: We should not move until the process we will use has been applied successfully to smaller projects. I am relatively neutral on the choice of repository, and a lot of people seem to like Git. On 9/14/2017 11:16 AM, Marcus wrote: Even when I'm not a

Re: [Discussion] Switch to Git?

2017-09-14 Thread Dave Fisher
> On Sep 14, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Marcus wrote: > > Even when I'm not a real developer, please let me add some points: > > IMHO we could switch when > > - ASF Infra can and will support it > - the CMS (it manages the webpages) is supporting Git > - the big majority of us

Re: [Discussion] Switch to Git?

2017-09-14 Thread Marcus
Even when I'm not a real developer, please let me add some points: IMHO we could switch when - ASF Infra can and will support it - the CMS (it manages the webpages) is supporting Git - the big majority of us is wanting Git - it is known how and save that the SVN commit history can be migrated

Re: [Discussion] Switch to Git?

2017-09-14 Thread Herbert Duerr
Hi, FWIW we already have an official git mirror of our svn repository. Do a git clone git://git.apache.org/openoffice.git to check it out. Such a repo is currently read-only of course until the project switches officially to git. Herbert On 09/14/2017 11:10 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: >

Re: [Discussion] Switch to Git?

2017-09-14 Thread Peter Kovacs
On 14.09.2017 13:10, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: Hi Can we please switch to using Git instead of Subversion for AOO's source? I don't know how much justification you want/need. Git is huge nowdays, by far the most popular VCS worldwide, the one most developers know and IDEs support

Re: [Discussion] Switch to Git?

2017-09-14 Thread Raphael Bircher
+1 Am .09.2017, 13:10 Uhr, schrieb Damjan Jovanovic : Hi Can we please switch to using Git instead of Subversion for AOO's source? I don't know how much justification you want/need. Git is huge nowdays, by far the most popular VCS worldwide, the one most developers know

Re: [Discussion] Switch to Git?

2017-09-14 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - Here is a difference between Git and SVN that could be important. In GIT you check out the whole repository. In SVN you can check out parts. Another would be does SVN vs. GIT prevent new developers from volunteering? Historical note - when OpenOffice came to Apache it had just been moved

Re: [Discussion] Switch to Git?

2017-09-14 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: > I know Git is the repository-of-the-decade, and therefore a switch to it > is probably inevitable, just like the switch from RCS to SCCS and from SCCS > to Subversion. > > Just as a matter of curiosity, which IDE's do not

Re: [Discussion] Switch to Git?

2017-09-14 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I know Git is the repository-of-the-decade, and therefore a switch to it is probably inevitable, just like the switch from RCS to SCCS and from SCCS to Subversion. Just as a matter of curiosity, which IDE's do not support Subversion? I know I was using a it with Eclipse before I heard of Git.

[Discussion] Switch to Git?

2017-09-14 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
Hi Can we please switch to using Git instead of Subversion for AOO's source? I don't know how much justification you want/need. Git is huge nowdays, by far the most popular VCS worldwide, the one most developers know and IDEs support (https://rhodecode.com/insights/version-control-systems-2016).