Re: [PROPOSAL] add an unsubscribe/help footer to recruitment ML

2021-02-07 Thread DurgaPrasad Potnuru
+1

On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 9:29 PM Peter Kovacs  wrote:

> For me, too. 'Thanks a lot Carl.
>
> On 07.02.21 16:41, Marcus wrote:
> > Am 07.02.21 um 16:36 schrieb Carl Marcum:
> >> The unsubscribe and help footer has been added to recruitment@ list.
> >
> > ... and it's working for me.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Marcus
> >
> >> On 1/25/21 6:45 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:
> >>> On 1/19/21 12:23 PM, Marcus wrote:
>  Am 19.01.21 um 01:08 schrieb Carl Marcum:
> > On 1/17/21 3:41 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> >> On 10/01/2021 Peter Kovacs wrote:
> >>> On 10.01.21 23:42, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>  But we should also be more proactive and remove people when
>  they ask for it on the list: Whimsy https://whimsy.apache.org/
> ...
> >>> The moderators are Patricia, Andrea and Marcus.
> >>
> >> I confirm that indeed I use Whimsy to help people unsubscribe the
> >> recruitment list when their intention is clear and when they are
> >> confused about how to do it. I hope the new footer will help
> >> limit these cases.
> >>
> > So should I go ahead with this if we are renaming the list?
> > I don't to create work for infra if it's not needed.
> 
>  I haven't seen any objection since days, so I would assume that a)
>  renaming the mailing list and b) adding a footer is OK.
> 
>  Please go ahead. :-)
> 
>  Marcus
> 
> >>> I put in a ticket for the footer [1].
> >>>
> >>> The rename I'll let someone else submit.
> >>>
> >>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-21343
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Re: [PROPOSAL] add an unsubscribe/help footer to recruitment ML

2021-02-07 Thread Peter Kovacs

For me, too. 'Thanks a lot Carl.

On 07.02.21 16:41, Marcus wrote:

Am 07.02.21 um 16:36 schrieb Carl Marcum:

The unsubscribe and help footer has been added to recruitment@ list.


... and it's working for me.

Thanks

Marcus


On 1/25/21 6:45 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:

On 1/19/21 12:23 PM, Marcus wrote:

Am 19.01.21 um 01:08 schrieb Carl Marcum:

On 1/17/21 3:41 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

On 10/01/2021 Peter Kovacs wrote:

On 10.01.21 23:42, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
But we should also be more proactive and remove people when 
they ask for it on the list: Whimsy https://whimsy.apache.org/ ...

The moderators are Patricia, Andrea and Marcus.


I confirm that indeed I use Whimsy to help people unsubscribe the 
recruitment list when their intention is clear and when they are 
confused about how to do it. I hope the new footer will help 
limit these cases.



So should I go ahead with this if we are renaming the list?
I don't to create work for infra if it's not needed.


I haven't seen any objection since days, so I would assume that a) 
renaming the mailing list and b) adding a footer is OK.


Please go ahead. :-)

Marcus


I put in a ticket for the footer [1].

The rename I'll let someone else submit.

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-21343



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Re: [PROPOSAL] add an unsubscribe/help footer to recruitment ML

2021-02-07 Thread Marcus

Am 07.02.21 um 16:36 schrieb Carl Marcum:

The unsubscribe and help footer has been added to recruitment@ list.


... and it's working for me.

Thanks

Marcus


On 1/25/21 6:45 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:

On 1/19/21 12:23 PM, Marcus wrote:

Am 19.01.21 um 01:08 schrieb Carl Marcum:

On 1/17/21 3:41 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

On 10/01/2021 Peter Kovacs wrote:

On 10.01.21 23:42, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
But we should also be more proactive and remove people when they 
ask for it on the list: Whimsy https://whimsy.apache.org/ ...

The moderators are Patricia, Andrea and Marcus.


I confirm that indeed I use Whimsy to help people unsubscribe the 
recruitment list when their intention is clear and when they are 
confused about how to do it. I hope the new footer will help limit 
these cases.



So should I go ahead with this if we are renaming the list?
I don't to create work for infra if it's not needed.


I haven't seen any objection since days, so I would assume that a) 
renaming the mailing list and b) adding a footer is OK.


Please go ahead. :-)

Marcus


I put in a ticket for the footer [1].

The rename I'll let someone else submit.

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-21343



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Re: [PROPOSAL] add an unsubscribe/help footer to recruitment ML

2021-02-07 Thread Carl Marcum

Hi All,

The unsubscribe and help footer has been added to recruitment@ list.

Best regards,
Carl

On 1/25/21 6:45 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:



On 1/19/21 12:23 PM, Marcus wrote:

Am 19.01.21 um 01:08 schrieb Carl Marcum:

On 1/17/21 3:41 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

On 10/01/2021 Peter Kovacs wrote:

On 10.01.21 23:42, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
But we should also be more proactive and remove people when they 
ask for it on the list: Whimsy https://whimsy.apache.org/ ...

The moderators are Patricia, Andrea and Marcus.


I confirm that indeed I use Whimsy to help people unsubscribe the 
recruitment list when their intention is clear and when they are 
confused about how to do it. I hope the new footer will help limit 
these cases.



So should I go ahead with this if we are renaming the list?
I don't to create work for infra if it's not needed.


I haven't seen any objection since days, so I would assume that a) 
renaming the mailing list and b) adding a footer is OK.


Please go ahead. :-)

Marcus


I put in a ticket for the footer [1].

The rename I'll let someone else submit.

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-21343

Best regards,
Carl




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Re: [PROPOSAL] add an unsubscribe/help footer to recruitment ML

2021-01-25 Thread Marcus

Am 26.01.21 um 00:45 schrieb Carl Marcum:



On 1/19/21 12:23 PM, Marcus wrote:

Am 19.01.21 um 01:08 schrieb Carl Marcum:

On 1/17/21 3:41 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

On 10/01/2021 Peter Kovacs wrote:

On 10.01.21 23:42, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
But we should also be more proactive and remove people when they 
ask for it on the list: Whimsy https://whimsy.apache.org/ ...

The moderators are Patricia, Andrea and Marcus.


I confirm that indeed I use Whimsy to help people unsubscribe the 
recruitment list when their intention is clear and when they are 
confused about how to do it. I hope the new footer will help limit 
these cases.



So should I go ahead with this if we are renaming the list?
I don't to create work for infra if it's not needed.


I haven't seen any objection since days, so I would assume that a) 
renaming the mailing list and b) adding a footer is OK.


Please go ahead. :-)

Marcus


I put in a ticket for the footer [1].


thanks


The rename I'll let someone else submit.


Done, please see the reply in the "[discussion] rename the recruitment 
list" thread .


Marcus


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Re: [PROPOSAL] add an unsubscribe/help footer to recruitment ML

2021-01-25 Thread Carl Marcum




On 1/19/21 12:23 PM, Marcus wrote:

Am 19.01.21 um 01:08 schrieb Carl Marcum:

On 1/17/21 3:41 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

On 10/01/2021 Peter Kovacs wrote:

On 10.01.21 23:42, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
But we should also be more proactive and remove people when they 
ask for it on the list: Whimsy https://whimsy.apache.org/ ...

The moderators are Patricia, Andrea and Marcus.


I confirm that indeed I use Whimsy to help people unsubscribe the 
recruitment list when their intention is clear and when they are 
confused about how to do it. I hope the new footer will help limit 
these cases.



So should I go ahead with this if we are renaming the list?
I don't to create work for infra if it's not needed.


I haven't seen any objection since days, so I would assume that a) 
renaming the mailing list and b) adding a footer is OK.


Please go ahead. :-)

Marcus


I put in a ticket for the footer [1].

The rename I'll let someone else submit.

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-21343

Best regards,
Carl


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Re: [PROPOSAL] add an unsubscribe/help footer to recruitment ML

2021-01-19 Thread Marcus

Am 19.01.21 um 01:08 schrieb Carl Marcum:

On 1/17/21 3:41 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

On 10/01/2021 Peter Kovacs wrote:

On 10.01.21 23:42, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
But we should also be more proactive and remove people when they ask 
for it on the list: Whimsy https://whimsy.apache.org/ ...

The moderators are Patricia, Andrea and Marcus.


I confirm that indeed I use Whimsy to help people unsubscribe the 
recruitment list when their intention is clear and when they are 
confused about how to do it. I hope the new footer will help limit 
these cases.



So should I go ahead with this if we are renaming the list?
I don't to create work for infra if it's not needed.


I haven't seen any objection since days, so I would assume that a) 
renaming the mailing list and b) adding a footer is OK.


Please go ahead. :-)

Marcus


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Re: [PROPOSAL] add an unsubscribe/help footer to recruitment ML

2021-01-18 Thread Carl Marcum




On 1/17/21 3:41 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

On 10/01/2021 Peter Kovacs wrote:

On 10.01.21 23:42, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
But we should also be more proactive and remove people when they ask 
for it on the list: Whimsy https://whimsy.apache.org/ ...

The moderators are Patricia, Andrea and Marcus.


I confirm that indeed I use Whimsy to help people unsubscribe the 
recruitment list when their intention is clear and when they are 
confused about how to do it. I hope the new footer will help limit 
these cases.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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So should I go ahead with this if we are renaming the list?
I don't to create work for infra if it's not needed.

Thanks,
Carl



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Re: [PROPOSAL] add an unsubscribe/help footer to recruitment ML

2021-01-17 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 10/01/2021 Peter Kovacs wrote:

On 10.01.21 23:42, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
But we should also be more proactive and remove people when they ask 
for it on the list: Whimsy https://whimsy.apache.org/ ...

The moderators are Patricia, Andrea and Marcus.


I confirm that indeed I use Whimsy to help people unsubscribe the 
recruitment list when their intention is clear and when they are 
confused about how to do it. I hope the new footer will help limit these 
cases.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: [PROPOSAL] add an unsubscribe/help footer to recruitment ML

2021-01-10 Thread Peter Kovacs



On 10.01.21 23:42, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

On 09/01/2021 Carl Marcum wrote:

It seems we get a lot of unsubscribe requests to the recruitment@ ML.
I propose we add a unsubscribe footer to that list like we have with 
dev@ and some others.


+1 and Infra can indeed add it.

But we should also be more proactive and remove people when they ask 
for it on the list: Whimsy https://whimsy.apache.org/ has a handy 
"Helper for mailing list moderators" tool that allows moderators to 
unsubscribe people when our "self-service subscribe, self-service 
unsubscribe" policy doesn't work.


The moderators are Patricia, Andrea and Marcus.


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Re: [PROPOSAL] add an unsubscribe/help footer to recruitment ML

2021-01-10 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 09/01/2021 Carl Marcum wrote:

It seems we get a lot of unsubscribe requests to the recruitment@ ML.
I propose we add a unsubscribe footer to that list like we have with 
dev@ and some others.


+1 and Infra can indeed add it.

But we should also be more proactive and remove people when they ask for 
it on the list: Whimsy https://whimsy.apache.org/ has a handy "Helper 
for mailing list moderators" tool that allows moderators to unsubscribe 
people when our "self-service subscribe, self-service unsubscribe" 
policy doesn't work.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: [PROPOSAL] add an unsubscribe/help footer to recruitment ML

2021-01-10 Thread Marcus

Am 09.01.21 um 01:43 schrieb Carl Marcum:

It seems we get a lot of unsubscribe requests to the recruitment@ ML.

I propose we add a unsubscribe footer to that list like we have with 
dev@ and some others.


Sorry this is a proposal without a known solution (on my part) but I 
suspect a ticket to infra may be involved which I could create.


I'm pretty sure only Infra can help as I think it's handled in the 
mailing list software.


Lazy Consensus in in effect for this and if there are no objections I'll 
figure out how to implement it in 72 hours.


I thought it cannot be true that there is no respective footer in 
recruitment@ mails. But it's treue: no footer :-O


So +100 for adding this.

Marcus



BTW:

This is used here at dev@:


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Re: [PROPOSAL] add an unsubscribe/help footer to recruitment ML

2021-01-09 Thread Arrigo Marchiori
On Fri, Jan 08, 2021 at 07:43:00PM -0500, Carl Marcum wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> It seems we get a lot of unsubscribe requests to the recruitment@ ML.
> 
> I propose we add a unsubscribe footer to that list like we have with dev@
> and some others.
> 
> Sorry this is a proposal without a known solution (on my part) but I suspect
> a ticket to infra may be involved which I could create.
> 
> Lazy Consensus in in effect for this and if there are no objections I'll
> figure out how to implement it in 72 hours.

+1

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Re: [PROPOSAL] add an unsubscribe/help footer to recruitment ML

2021-01-09 Thread Peter Kovacs

+1

On 09.01.21 01:43, Carl Marcum wrote:

Hi All,

It seems we get a lot of unsubscribe requests to the recruitment@ ML.

I propose we add a unsubscribe footer to that list like we have with 
dev@ and some others.


Sorry this is a proposal without a known solution (on my part) but I 
suspect a ticket to infra may be involved which I could create.


Lazy Consensus in in effect for this and if there are no objections 
I'll figure out how to implement it in 72 hours.


Best regards,
Carl

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[PROPOSAL] add an unsubscribe/help footer to recruitment ML

2021-01-08 Thread Carl Marcum

Hi All,

It seems we get a lot of unsubscribe requests to the recruitment@ ML.

I propose we add a unsubscribe footer to that list like we have with 
dev@ and some others.


Sorry this is a proposal without a known solution (on my part) but I 
suspect a ticket to infra may be involved which I could create.


Lazy Consensus in in effect for this and if there are no objections I'll 
figure out how to implement it in 72 hours.


Best regards,
Carl

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