subject:"Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search"

Re: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

2020-05-20 Thread Rory O'Farrell

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> >>>>>>>>>>> Disallow: /vi/forum/adm
> >>>>>>>>>>> Disallow: /vi/forum/cache
> >>>>>>>>>>> Disallow: /vi/forum/docs
> >>>>>>>>>>> Disallow: /vi/forum/files
> >>>>>>>>>>> Disallow: /vi/forum/images
> >>>>>>>>>>> Disallow: /vi/forum/includes
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Re: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

2020-05-20 Thread Hagar Delest

Hi Kay,

Am 12.05.20 um 01:21 schrieb Kay Schenk:

On 5/11/20 12:33 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Kay,

Am 11.05.20 um 21:23 schrieb Kay Schenk:

Hi Peter...

Since I am a Google Search admin for 
www.openoffice.org, and
openoffice.apache.org, I got this also. Disclaimer: I 
have not done
ANY work with the Google Search apis on these sites in 
quite some time.


I actually was NOT aware forum.openoffice.org was set 
up to use Google

Search until I saw this.
I think, I added it to the list when we had a discussion 
about outdated

information regarding SourceForge found by Google Search.

But I don't have access to forum.openoffice.org, so I 
could never

complete the step.

Regards,

    Matthias
OK. In the top level of the website source, there is a 
file called
"skeleton.html" which references the following bit of 
code --




I didn't dig far enough to find how "skeleton.html" is 
used ( I
forgot) but this this is example for the google-analytics 
code snippet
that is used. Basically, this needs to be included in the 
site you
want analytics to be used on by putting it in the 
(header) files that
generate the site. And, you might  take a look at recent 
instructions

from Google. Things change.

https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/1008080
Yes, but this is for Google Analytics. I wouldn't want to 
"analyze" the

forum...
The procedure for the Google Search Console is the same, 
it needs access

to the root directory.

Maybe Andrea can help if he is available again?

Regards,

   Matthias


Regards,

Kay

One of the Google Search admins for 
forum.openoffice.org could check
the current Google search apis that are in use on that 
site. Changes
are occasionally made to the calls, and maybe that is 
the issue, or a
robots.txt for that site is causing this. I don't think 
it requires a

response, but maybe some investigation.

Just some ideas...

Regards,

Kay


On 5/11/20 6:02 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote:

Hi all,

I have received following mail. Probably because I am 
listed in the

google-Analytics page.

Does this has some action items? What can we answer Mr 
John Mueller?



All the Best

Peter



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and Google Search

Datum: Mon, 11 May 2020 13:37:27 +0200
Von: John Mueller 
An: morsei...@gmail.com, kay.sch...@gmail.com, 
legi...@gmail.com




Dear webmaster of forum.openoffice.org 
<http://forum.openoffice.org>


I'm an analyst at Google in Switzerland. We wanted to 
bring your
attention to a critical issue with your website, and 
how it's

available for Google's web search.

In particular, Googlebot has been unable to crawl URLs 
from
https://forum.openoffice.org/ . This will cause those 
pages to drop
out of Google's search results, and will prevent new 
pages from being
picked up for Search. If you're not aware of this 
issue, you may be
accidentally blocking these pages from Google Search 
due to a server
issue. If you need to block Googlebot from crawling 
pages on your
website, we'd recommend using the robots.txt file 
instead.


Should you need to recognize IP addresses of Googlebot 
requests, you

can use a reverse IP lookup to do so:
https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/80553

Should you have any questions, feel free to contact me 
directly. For
verification purposes, we are sending a copy of this 
message to your

site's Search Console account.

Thank you,
John Mueller (joh...@google.com 
<mailto:joh...@google.com>)

Webmaster Trends Analyst




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Re: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

2020-05-19 Thread Bidouille

This morning, that's work and 3 results found

> > The string is the one in the thread in the forum:
> > "text lines are overwriting margins" site:forum.openoffice.org
> >
> > The result page says (in French):
> > No result found for...

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Re: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

2020-05-19 Thread Peter Kovacs

ay,

Am 11.05.20 um 21:23 schrieb Kay Schenk:

Hi Peter...

Since I am a Google Search admin for www.openoffice.org, 
and
openoffice.apache.org, I got this also. Disclaimer: I 
have not done
ANY work with the Google Search apis on these sites in 
quite some time.


I actually was NOT aware forum.openoffice.org was set up 
to use Google

Search until I saw this.
I think, I added it to the list when we had a discussion 
about outdated

information regarding SourceForge found by Google Search.

But I don't have access to forum.openoffice.org, so I 
could never

complete the step.

Regards,

    Matthias
OK. In the top level of the website source, there is a 
file called

"skeleton.html" which references the following bit of code --



I didn't dig far enough to find how "skeleton.html" is 
used ( I
forgot) but this this is example for the google-analytics 
code snippet
that is used. Basically, this needs to be included in the 
site you
want analytics to be used on by putting it in the (header) 
files that
generate the site. And, you might  take a look at recent 
instructions

from Google. Things change.

https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/1008080
Yes, but this is for Google Analytics. I wouldn't want to 
"analyze" the

forum...
The procedure for the Google Search Console is the same, it 
needs access

to the root directory.

Maybe Andrea can help if he is available again?

Regards,

   Matthias


Regards,

Kay

One of the Google Search admins for forum.openoffice.org 
could check
the current Google search apis that are in use on that 
site. Changes
are occasionally made to the calls, and maybe that is 
the issue, or a
robots.txt for that site is causing this. I don't think 
it requires a

response, but maybe some investigation.

Just some ideas...

Regards,

Kay


On 5/11/20 6:02 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote:

Hi all,

I have received following mail. Probably because I am 
listed in the

google-Analytics page.

Does this has some action items? What can we answer Mr 
John Mueller?



All the Best

Peter



 Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
Betreff: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and 
Google Search

Datum: Mon, 11 May 2020 13:37:27 +0200
Von: John Mueller 
An: morsei...@gmail.com, kay.sch...@gmail.com, 
legi...@gmail.com




Dear webmaster of forum.openoffice.org 
<http://forum.openoffice.org>


I'm an analyst at Google in Switzerland. We wanted to 
bring your
attention to a critical issue with your website, and 
how it's

available for Google's web search.

In particular, Googlebot has been unable to crawl URLs 
from
https://forum.openoffice.org/ . This will cause those 
pages to drop
out of Google's search results, and will prevent new 
pages from being
picked up for Search. If you're not aware of this 
issue, you may be
accidentally blocking these pages from Google Search 
due to a server
issue. If you need to block Googlebot from crawling 
pages on your

website, we'd recommend using the robots.txt file instead.

Should you need to recognize IP addresses of Googlebot 
requests, you

can use a reverse IP lookup to do so:
https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/80553

Should you have any questions, feel free to contact me 
directly. For
verification purposes, we are sending a copy of this 
message to your

site's Search Console account.

Thank you,
John Mueller (joh...@google.com 
<mailto:joh...@google.com>)

Webmaster Trends Analyst




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Re: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

2020-05-19 Thread Hagar Delest

 done
ANY work with the Google Search apis on these sites in 
quite some time.


I actually was NOT aware forum.openoffice.org was set up 
to use Google

Search until I saw this.
I think, I added it to the list when we had a discussion 
about outdated

information regarding SourceForge found by Google Search.

But I don't have access to forum.openoffice.org, so I 
could never

complete the step.

Regards,

    Matthias
OK. In the top level of the website source, there is a file 
called

"skeleton.html" which references the following bit of code --



I didn't dig far enough to find how "skeleton.html" is used 
( I
forgot) but this this is example for the google-analytics 
code snippet
that is used. Basically, this needs to be included in the 
site you
want analytics to be used on by putting it in the (header) 
files that
generate the site. And, you might  take a look at recent 
instructions

from Google. Things change.

https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/1008080
Yes, but this is for Google Analytics. I wouldn't want to 
"analyze" the

forum...
The procedure for the Google Search Console is the same, it 
needs access

to the root directory.

Maybe Andrea can help if he is available again?

Regards,

   Matthias


Regards,

Kay

One of the Google Search admins for forum.openoffice.org 
could check
the current Google search apis that are in use on that 
site. Changes
are occasionally made to the calls, and maybe that is the 
issue, or a
robots.txt for that site is causing this. I don't think 
it requires a

response, but maybe some investigation.

Just some ideas...

Regards,

Kay


On 5/11/20 6:02 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote:

Hi all,

I have received following mail. Probably because I am 
listed in the

google-Analytics page.

Does this has some action items? What can we answer Mr 
John Mueller?



All the Best

Peter



 Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
Betreff: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and 
Google Search

Datum: Mon, 11 May 2020 13:37:27 +0200
Von: John Mueller 
An: morsei...@gmail.com, kay.sch...@gmail.com, 
legi...@gmail.com




Dear webmaster of forum.openoffice.org 
<http://forum.openoffice.org>


I'm an analyst at Google in Switzerland. We wanted to 
bring your
attention to a critical issue with your website, and how 
it's

available for Google's web search.

In particular, Googlebot has been unable to crawl URLs from
https://forum.openoffice.org/ . This will cause those 
pages to drop
out of Google's search results, and will prevent new 
pages from being
picked up for Search. If you're not aware of this issue, 
you may be
accidentally blocking these pages from Google Search due 
to a server
issue. If you need to block Googlebot from crawling 
pages on your

website, we'd recommend using the robots.txt file instead.

Should you need to recognize IP addresses of Googlebot 
requests, you

can use a reverse IP lookup to do so:
https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/80553

Should you have any questions, feel free to contact me 
directly. For
verification purposes, we are sending a copy of this 
message to your

site's Search Console account.

Thank you,
John Mueller (joh...@google.com <mailto:joh...@google.com>)
Webmaster Trends Analyst




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Re: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

2020-05-18 Thread Peter Kovacs

ton.html" which references the following bit of code --



I didn't dig far enough to find how "skeleton.html" is used ( I
forgot) but this this is example for the google-analytics 
code snippet
that is used. Basically, this needs to be included in the 
site you
want analytics to be used on by putting it in the (header) 
files that
generate the site. And, you might  take a look at recent 
instructions

from Google. Things change.

https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/1008080
Yes, but this is for Google Analytics. I wouldn't want to 
"analyze" the

forum...
The procedure for the Google Search Console is the same, it 
needs access

to the root directory.

Maybe Andrea can help if he is available again?

Regards,

   Matthias


Regards,

Kay

One of the Google Search admins for forum.openoffice.org 
could check
the current Google search apis that are in use on that 
site. Changes
are occasionally made to the calls, and maybe that is the 
issue, or a
robots.txt for that site is causing this. I don't think it 
requires a

response, but maybe some investigation.

Just some ideas...

Regards,

Kay


On 5/11/20 6:02 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote:

Hi all,

I have received following mail. Probably because I am 
listed in the

google-Analytics page.

Does this has some action items? What can we answer Mr 
John Mueller?



All the Best

Peter



 Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
Betreff: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and 
Google Search

Datum: Mon, 11 May 2020 13:37:27 +0200
Von: John Mueller 
An: morsei...@gmail.com, kay.sch...@gmail.com, 
legi...@gmail.com




Dear webmaster of forum.openoffice.org 
<http://forum.openoffice.org>


I'm an analyst at Google in Switzerland. We wanted to 
bring your
attention to a critical issue with your website, and how 
it's

available for Google's web search.

In particular, Googlebot has been unable to crawl URLs from
https://forum.openoffice.org/ . This will cause those 
pages to drop
out of Google's search results, and will prevent new 
pages from being
picked up for Search. If you're not aware of this issue, 
you may be
accidentally blocking these pages from Google Search due 
to a server
issue. If you need to block Googlebot from crawling pages 
on your

website, we'd recommend using the robots.txt file instead.

Should you need to recognize IP addresses of Googlebot 
requests, you

can use a reverse IP lookup to do so:
https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/80553

Should you have any questions, feel free to contact me 
directly. For
verification purposes, we are sending a copy of this 
message to your

site's Search Console account.

Thank you,
John Mueller (joh...@google.com <mailto:joh...@google.com>)
Webmaster Trends Analyst




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Re: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

2020-05-18 Thread Hagar Delest

l" is used ( I
forgot) but this this is example for the google-analytics 
code snippet
that is used. Basically, this needs to be included in the 
site you
want analytics to be used on by putting it in the (header) 
files that
generate the site. And, you might  take a look at recent 
instructions

from Google. Things change.

https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/1008080
Yes, but this is for Google Analytics. I wouldn't want to 
"analyze" the

forum...
The procedure for the Google Search Console is the same, it 
needs access

to the root directory.

Maybe Andrea can help if he is available again?

Regards,

   Matthias


Regards,

Kay

One of the Google Search admins for forum.openoffice.org 
could check
the current Google search apis that are in use on that 
site. Changes
are occasionally made to the calls, and maybe that is the 
issue, or a
robots.txt for that site is causing this. I don't think it 
requires a

response, but maybe some investigation.

Just some ideas...

Regards,

Kay


On 5/11/20 6:02 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote:

Hi all,

I have received following mail. Probably because I am 
listed in the

google-Analytics page.

Does this has some action items? What can we answer Mr 
John Mueller?



All the Best

Peter



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Google Search

Datum: Mon, 11 May 2020 13:37:27 +0200
Von: John Mueller 
An: morsei...@gmail.com, kay.sch...@gmail.com, 
legi...@gmail.com




Dear webmaster of forum.openoffice.org 
<http://forum.openoffice.org>


I'm an analyst at Google in Switzerland. We wanted to 
bring your

attention to a critical issue with your website, and how it's
available for Google's web search.

In particular, Googlebot has been unable to crawl URLs from
https://forum.openoffice.org/ . This will cause those 
pages to drop
out of Google's search results, and will prevent new pages 
from being
picked up for Search. If you're not aware of this issue, 
you may be
accidentally blocking these pages from Google Search due 
to a server
issue. If you need to block Googlebot from crawling pages 
on your

website, we'd recommend using the robots.txt file instead.

Should you need to recognize IP addresses of Googlebot 
requests, you

can use a reverse IP lookup to do so:
https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/80553

Should you have any questions, feel free to contact me 
directly. For
verification purposes, we are sending a copy of this 
message to your

site's Search Console account.

Thank you,
John Mueller (joh...@google.com <mailto:joh...@google.com>)
Webmaster Trends Analyst




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Re: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

2020-05-18 Thread Rory O'Farrell

gt; On May 12, 2020, at 3:55 AM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hello all,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What I figured is that from the Google search tool the URL 
> >>>>>>> forum.openoffice.org is not reachable.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So I checked with Duckduckgo (my prefered Search engine), they don't 
> >>>>>>> use crawler and point at the infra of Google, Bing and Yandex.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I checked then with Bing, but could not figure out to check bots 
> >>>>>>> feedback on an URL so I moved on
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I checked with Yandex. They have a search URL test page. I have 
> >>>>>>> entered there forum.openoffice.org
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The Response is:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> * Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 10:37:47 GMT
> >>>>>>> * Server: Apache/2.4.18 (Ubuntu)
> >>>>>>> * Location: https://forum.openoffice.org/
> >>>>>>> * Content-Length: 237
> >>>>>>> * Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=100
> >>>>>>> * Connection: Keep-Alive
> >>>>>>> * Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> HTTP status code  301 Moved Permanently
> >>>>>>> Server response time  133 ms
> >>>>>>> IP address54.84.201.130
> >>>>>>> Encoding  UTF-8(unicode-1-1-utf-8, UTF8)
> >>>>>>> Page size 237 B
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I am not sure, what that means. HTTP Status Code moved Permanently 
> >>>>>>> reads wrong. I just dont know if this is the return code from our 
> >>>>>>> webservcer or a response code from the crawler.
> >>>>>>> I try to get someone from Infra. Or I'll open a ticket.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> All the best
> >>>>>>> Peter
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Am 12.05.20 um 10:39 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> >>>>>>>> Hi Kay,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Am 12.05.20 um 01:21 schrieb Kay Schenk:
> >>>>>>>>> On 5/11/20 12:33 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Kay,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Am 11.05.20 um 21:23 schrieb Kay Schenk:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Peter...
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Since I am a Google Search admin for www.openoffice.org, and
> >>>>>>>>>>> openoffice.apache.org, I got this also. Disclaimer: I have not 
> >>>>>>>>>>> done
> >>>>>>>>>>> ANY work with the Google Search apis on these sites in quite some 
> >>>>>>>>>>> time.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I actually was NOT aware forum.openoffice.org was set up to use 
> >>>>>>>>>>> Google
> >>>>>>>>>>> Search until I saw this.
> >>>>>>>>>> I think, I added it to the list when we had a discussion about 
> >>>>>>>>>> outdated
> >>>>>>>>>> information regarding SourceForge found by Google Search.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> But I don't have access to forum.openoffice.org, so I could never
> >>>>>>>>>> complete the step.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Matthias
> >>>>>>>>> OK. In the top level of the website source, there is a file called
> >>>>>>>>> "skeleton.html" which references the following bit of code --
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I didn't dig far enough to find how "skeleton.html" is used ( I
> >>>>>>>>> forgot) but this this is example for the google-analytics code 
> >>>>>>>>> snippet
> >>>>>>>>> that is used. Basically, this needs to be included in the site you
> >>>>>>>>> want analytics to be used on by putting it in the (header) files 
> >>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>> generate the site. And, you might  take a look at recent 
> >>>>>>>>> instructions
> >>>>>>>>> from Google. Things change.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/1008080
> >>>>>>>> Yes, but this is for Google Analytics. I wouldn't want to "analyze" 
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> forum...
> >>>>>>>> The procedure for the Google Search Console is the same, it needs 
> >>>>>>>> access
> >>>>>>>> to the root directory.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Maybe Andrea can help if he is available again?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Matthias
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Kay
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> One of the Google Search admins for forum.openoffice.org could 
> >>>>>>>>>>> check
> >>>>>>>>>>> the current Google search apis that are in use on that site. 
> >>>>>>>>>>> Changes
> >>>>>>>>>>> are occasionally made to the calls, and maybe that is the issue, 
> >>>>>>>>>>> or a
> >>>>>>>>>>> robots.txt for that site is causing this. I don't think it 
> >>>>>>>>>>> requires a
> >>>>>>>>>>> response, but maybe some investigation.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Just some ideas...
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Kay
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 5/11/20 6:02 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I have received following mail. Probably because I am listed in 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> google-Analytics page.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Does this has some action items? What can we answer Mr John 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Mueller?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> All the Best
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Peter
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Search
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Datum: Mon, 11 May 2020 13:37:27 +0200
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Von: John Mueller 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> An: morsei...@gmail.com, kay.sch...@gmail.com, 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> legi...@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear webmaster of forum.openoffice.org 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://forum.openoffice.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm an analyst at Google in Switzerland. We wanted to bring your
> >>>>>>>>>>>> attention to a critical issue with your website, and how it's
> >>>>>>>>>>>> available for Google's web search.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> In particular, Googlebot has been unable to crawl URLs from
> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://forum.openoffice.org/ . This will cause those pages to 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> drop
> >>>>>>>>>>>> out of Google's search results, and will prevent new pages from 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> being
> >>>>>>>>>>>> picked up for Search. If you're not aware of this issue, you may 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>> accidentally blocking these pages from Google Search due to a 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> server
> >>>>>>>>>>>> issue. If you need to block Googlebot from crawling pages on your
> >>>>>>>>>>>> website, we'd recommend using the robots.txt file instead.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Should you need to recognize IP addresses of Googlebot requests, 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>>>>> can use a reverse IP lookup to do so:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/80553
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Should you have any questions, feel free to contact me directly. 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> For
> >>>>>>>>>>>> verification purposes, we are sending a copy of this message to 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> your
> >>>>>>>>>>>> site's Search Console account.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> John Mueller (joh...@google.com <mailto:joh...@google.com>)
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Webmaster Trends Analyst
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

2020-05-18 Thread Peter Kovacs

e the site. And, you might  take a look at recent instructions
from Google. Things change.

https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/1008080

Yes, but this is for Google Analytics. I wouldn't want to "analyze" the
forum...
The procedure for the Google Search Console is the same, it needs access
to the root directory.

Maybe Andrea can help if he is available again?

Regards,

   Matthias


Regards,

Kay


One of the Google Search admins for forum.openoffice.org could check
the current Google search apis that are in use on that site. Changes
are occasionally made to the calls, and maybe that is the issue, or a
robots.txt for that site is causing this. I don't think it requires a
response, but maybe some investigation.

Just some ideas...

Regards,

Kay


On 5/11/20 6:02 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote:

Hi all,

I have received following mail. Probably because I am listed in the
google-Analytics page.

Does this has some action items? What can we answer Mr John Mueller?


All the Best

Peter



 Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
Betreff: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search
Datum: Mon, 11 May 2020 13:37:27 +0200
Von: John Mueller 
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Dear webmaster of forum.openoffice.org <http://forum.openoffice.org>

I'm an analyst at Google in Switzerland. We wanted to bring your
attention to a critical issue with your website, and how it's
available for Google's web search.

In particular, Googlebot has been unable to crawl URLs from
https://forum.openoffice.org/ . This will cause those pages to drop
out of Google's search results, and will prevent new pages from being
picked up for Search. If you're not aware of this issue, you may be
accidentally blocking these pages from Google Search due to a server
issue. If you need to block Googlebot from crawling pages on your
website, we'd recommend using the robots.txt file instead.

Should you need to recognize IP addresses of Googlebot requests, you
can use a reverse IP lookup to do so:
https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/80553

Should you have any questions, feel free to contact me directly. For
verification purposes, we are sending a copy of this message to your
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Re: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

2020-05-18 Thread Rory O'Farrell

> >>> Disallow: /vi/forum/memberlist.php
> > >>> Disallow: /vi/forum/posting.php
> > >>> Disallow: /vi/forum/report.php
> > >>> Disallow: /vi/forum/search.php
> > >>> Disallow: /vi/forum/style.php
> > >>> Disallow: /vi/forum/ucp.php
> > >>> Disallow: /vi/forum/viewonline.php
> > >>> Disallow: /vi/forum/adm
> > >>> Disallow: /vi/forum/cache
> > >>> Disallow: /vi/forum/docs
> > >>> Disallow: /vi/forum/files
> > >>> Disallow: /vi/forum/images
> > >>> Disallow: /vi/forum/includes
> > >>> Disallow: /vi/forum/language
> > >>> Disallow: /vi/forum/store
> > >>> Disallow: /vi/forum/styles
> > >>> Disallow: /zh/forum/common.php
> > >>> Disallow: /zh/forum/config.php
> > >>> Disallow: /zh/forum/con.php
> > >>> Disallow: /zh/forum/faq.php
> > >>> Disallow: /zh/forum/mcp.php
> > >>> Disallow: /zh/forum/memberlist.php
> > >>> Disallow: /zh/forum/posting.php
> > >>> Disallow: /zh/forum/report.php
> > >>> Disallow: /zh/forum/search.php
> > >>> Disallow: /zh/forum/style.php
> > >>> Disallow: /zh/forum/ucp.php
> > >>> Disallow: /zh/forum/viewonline.php
> > >>> Disallow: /zh/forum/adm
> > >>> Disallow: /zh/forum/cache
> > >>> Disallow: /zh/forum/docs
> > >>> Disallow: /zh/forum/files
> > >>> Disallow: /zh/forum/images
> > >>> Disallow: /zh/forum/includes
> > >>> Disallow: /zh/forum/language
> > >>> Disallow: /zh/forum/store
> > >>> Disallow: /zh/forum/styles
> > >>>
> > >>> This has been the robots.txt file since: Last-Modified: Sat, 06 Jun 
> > >>> 2009 23:40:14 GMT
> > >>>
> > >>> Forum search uses phpBB
> > >>>
> > >>> We haven’t allowed search engines to crawl forum.openoffice.org since 
> > >>> before the Oracle donation to the ASF.
> > >>>
> > >>> Crawlers IP addresses might be blocked by ASF Infra if their use is 
> > >>> excessive. That could give the 301.
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards,
> > >>> Dave
> > >>>
> > >>>> On May 12, 2020, at 3:55 AM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hello all,
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> What I figured is that from the Google search tool the URL 
> > >>>> forum.openoffice.org is not reachable.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> So I checked with Duckduckgo (my prefered Search engine), they don't 
> > >>>> use crawler and point at the infra of Google, Bing and Yandex.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I checked then with Bing, but could not figure out to check bots 
> > >>>> feedback on an URL so I moved on
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I checked with Yandex. They have a search URL test page. I have 
> > >>>> entered there forum.openoffice.org
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The Response is:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 
> > >>>>
> > >>>> * Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 10:37:47 GMT
> > >>>> * Server: Apache/2.4.18 (Ubuntu)
> > >>>> * Location: https://forum.openoffice.org/
> > >>>> * Content-Length: 237
> > >>>> * Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=100
> > >>>> * Connection: Keep-Alive
> > >>>> * Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ----------------
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> HTTP status code   301 Moved Permanently
> > >>>> Server response time   133 ms
> > >>>> IP address 54.84.201.130
> > >>>> Encoding   UTF-8(unicode-1-1-utf-8, UTF8)
> > >>>> Page size  237 B
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I am not sure, what that means. HTTP Status Code moved Permanently 
> > >>>> reads wrong. I just dont know if this is the return code from our 
> > >>>> webservcer or a response code from the crawler.
> >

Re: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

2020-05-18 Thread Rory O'Farrell

orum/adm
> >>> Disallow: /zh/forum/cache
> >>> Disallow: /zh/forum/docs
> >>> Disallow: /zh/forum/files
> >>> Disallow: /zh/forum/images
> >>> Disallow: /zh/forum/includes
> >>> Disallow: /zh/forum/language
> >>> Disallow: /zh/forum/store
> >>> Disallow: /zh/forum/styles
> >>>
> >>> This has been the robots.txt file since: Last-Modified: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 
> >>> 23:40:14 GMT
> >>>
> >>> Forum search uses phpBB
> >>>
> >>> We haven’t allowed search engines to crawl forum.openoffice.org since 
> >>> before the Oracle donation to the ASF.
> >>>
> >>> Crawlers IP addresses might be blocked by ASF Infra if their use is 
> >>> excessive. That could give the 301.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Dave
> >>>
> >>>> On May 12, 2020, at 3:55 AM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello all,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> What I figured is that from the Google search tool the URL 
> >>>> forum.openoffice.org is not reachable.
> >>>>
> >>>> So I checked with Duckduckgo (my prefered Search engine), they don't use 
> >>>> crawler and point at the infra of Google, Bing and Yandex.
> >>>>
> >>>> I checked then with Bing, but could not figure out to check bots 
> >>>> feedback on an URL so I moved on
> >>>>
> >>>> I checked with Yandex. They have a search URL test page. I have entered 
> >>>> there forum.openoffice.org
> >>>>
> >>>> The Response is:
> >>>>
> >>>> 
> >>>>
> >>>> * Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 10:37:47 GMT
> >>>> * Server: Apache/2.4.18 (Ubuntu)
> >>>> * Location: https://forum.openoffice.org/
> >>>> * Content-Length: 237
> >>>> * Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=100
> >>>> * Connection: Keep-Alive
> >>>> * Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
> >>>>
> >>>> 
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> HTTP status code 301 Moved Permanently
> >>>> Server response time 133 ms
> >>>> IP address   54.84.201.130
> >>>> Encoding UTF-8(unicode-1-1-utf-8, UTF8)
> >>>> Page size237 B
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I am not sure, what that means. HTTP Status Code moved Permanently reads 
> >>>> wrong. I just dont know if this is the return code from our webservcer 
> >>>> or a response code from the crawler.
> >>>> I try to get someone from Infra. Or I'll open a ticket.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> All the best
> >>>> Peter
> >>>>
> >>>> Am 12.05.20 um 10:39 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> >>>>> Hi Kay,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Am 12.05.20 um 01:21 schrieb Kay Schenk:
> >>>>>> On 5/11/20 12:33 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi Kay,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Am 11.05.20 um 21:23 schrieb Kay Schenk:
> >>>>>>>> Hi Peter...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Since I am a Google Search admin for www.openoffice.org, and
> >>>>>>>> openoffice.apache.org, I got this also. Disclaimer: I have not done
> >>>>>>>> ANY work with the Google Search apis on these sites in quite some 
> >>>>>>>> time.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I actually was NOT aware forum.openoffice.org was set up to use 
> >>>>>>>> Google
> >>>>>>>> Search until I saw this.
> >>>>>>> I think, I added it to the list when we had a discussion about 
> >>>>>>> outdated
> >>>>>>> information regarding SourceForge found by Google Search.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> But I don't have access to forum.openoffice.org, so I could never
> >>>>>>> complete the step.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>

Re: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

2020-05-12 Thread Peter Kovacs


Hi John,


We have not changed the Robots.txt file in 11 years. After checking back 
this is long standing, unchanged configuration.


The page itself is reachable by https://forum.openoffice.org. yandex 
response check gives an 200 return code, which indicates all is fine.


We were also able to curl the headers and all looked a okay. No Google 
Crawlers are blocked by IP address. I managed to confirm all those things.



Let try the Google Search:

Searchkey: OpenOffice Reset Profile

2nd link points to the right topic on the forum.


From our standpoint it looks everything as intended.

Since we have not change anything recently, but google search shows 
issues I assume the issue is within google Infrastructure causing the 
issue in your crawler.


I do not see what we should change and why. Feel free to respond to the 
mailing list.



All the Best

Peter



Am 12.05.20 um 11:56 schrieb John Mueller:

Hi Peter

It looks like Google's infrastructure for crawling the web can't access any
URLs at all from forum.openoffice.org, including the homepage. Sometimes
this is due to a firewall or abuse protection system recognizing these
requests as malicious. Over time, as we attempt to update the pages in the
search results by crawling URLs from the site, if we see that we can't
access them at all, they generally get removed from our search results, In
practice, this means that users won't be able to find your pages in Google
Search. Sometimes websites do that on purpose, if they don't want to be
found in search, I suspect it's more of an accident here. A simple way to
test is to use  https://search.google.com/test/mobile-friendly to check
URLs from your site (better would be to use
https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/9012289 , though that would
require verification of the site in Google Search Console first).

Hope this helps!
John




On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 10:33 AM Peter Kovacs  wrote:


Hello Mr Mueller,


The forum.openoffice.org is our support Forum. When people have issues
they are often directed to this page for solutions.

Do you have a list of URLs googlebot has not able to crawl? We can then
check if the behavior is intended or not and we can tell you the reason for
this measurement.

I am not particular skilled in google search engine. I do not understand
the sentence:

This will cause those pages to drop out of Google's search results, and
will prevent new pages from being picked up for Search.

Can you explain this in an example please?


Thanks for the support.

All the best

Peter


Am 11.05.20 um 13:37 schrieb John Mueller:

Dear webmaster of forum.openoffice.org

I'm an analyst at Google in Switzerland. We wanted to bring your attention
to a critical issue with your website, and how it's available for Google's
web search.

In particular, Googlebot has been unable to crawl URLs from
https://forum.openoffice.org/ . This will cause those pages to drop out
of Google's search results, and will prevent new pages from being picked up
for Search. If you're not aware of this issue, you may be accidentally
blocking these pages from Google Search due to a server issue. If you need
to block Googlebot from crawling pages on your website, we'd recommend
using the robots.txt file instead.

Should you need to recognize IP addresses of Googlebot requests, you can
use a reverse IP lookup to do so:
https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/80553

Should you have any questions, feel free to contact me directly. For
verification purposes, we are sending a copy of this message to your site's
Search Console account.

Thank you,
John Mueller (joh...@google.com)
Webmaster Trends Analyst




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Re: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

2020-05-12 Thread Peter Kovacs

sing this. I don't think it requires a
response, but maybe some investigation.

Just some ideas...

Regards,

Kay


On 5/11/20 6:02 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote:

Hi all,

I have received following mail. Probably because I am listed in the
google-Analytics page.

Does this has some action items? What can we answer Mr John Mueller?


All the Best

Peter



-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht ----
Betreff: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search
Datum: Mon, 11 May 2020 13:37:27 +0200
Von: John Mueller 
An: morsei...@gmail.com, kay.sch...@gmail.com, legi...@gmail.com



Dear webmaster of forum.openoffice.org <http://forum.openoffice.org>

I'm an analyst at Google in Switzerland. We wanted to bring your
attention to a critical issue with your website, and how it's
available for Google's web search.

In particular, Googlebot has been unable to crawl URLs from
https://forum.openoffice.org/ . This will cause those pages to drop
out of Google's search results, and will prevent new pages from being
picked up for Search. If you're not aware of this issue, you may be
accidentally blocking these pages from Google Search due to a server
issue. If you need to block Googlebot from crawling pages on your
website, we'd recommend using the robots.txt file instead.

Should you need to recognize IP addresses of Googlebot requests, you
can use a reverse IP lookup to do so:
https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/80553

Should you have any questions, feel free to contact me directly. For
verification purposes, we are sending a copy of this message to your
site's Search Console account.

Thank you,
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Re: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

2020-05-12 Thread Dave Fisher

gt;>> Am 12.05.20 um 01:21 schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>>>> On 5/11/20 12:33 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Kay,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 11.05.20 um 21:23 schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>>>>>> Hi Peter...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Since I am a Google Search admin for www.openoffice.org, and
>>>>>>> openoffice.apache.org, I got this also. Disclaimer: I have not done
>>>>>>> ANY work with the Google Search apis on these sites in quite some time.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I actually was NOT aware forum.openoffice.org was set up to use Google
>>>>>>> Search until I saw this.
>>>>>> I think, I added it to the list when we had a discussion about outdated
>>>>>> information regarding SourceForge found by Google Search.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> But I don't have access to forum.openoffice.org, so I could never
>>>>>> complete the step.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   Matthias
>>>>> OK. In the top level of the website source, there is a file called
>>>>> "skeleton.html" which references the following bit of code --
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I didn't dig far enough to find how "skeleton.html" is used ( I
>>>>> forgot) but this this is example for the google-analytics code snippet
>>>>> that is used. Basically, this needs to be included in the site you
>>>>> want analytics to be used on by putting it in the (header) files that
>>>>> generate the site. And, you might  take a look at recent instructions
>>>>> from Google. Things change.
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/1008080
>>>> Yes, but this is for Google Analytics. I wouldn't want to "analyze" the
>>>> forum...
>>>> The procedure for the Google Search Console is the same, it needs access
>>>> to the root directory.
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe Andrea can help if he is available again?
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>>  Matthias
>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kay
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> One of the Google Search admins for forum.openoffice.org could check
>>>>>>> the current Google search apis that are in use on that site. Changes
>>>>>>> are occasionally made to the calls, and maybe that is the issue, or a
>>>>>>> robots.txt for that site is causing this. I don't think it requires a
>>>>>>> response, but maybe some investigation.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Just some ideas...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Kay
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 5/11/20 6:02 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have received following mail. Probably because I am listed in the
>>>>>>>> google-Analytics page.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Does this has some action items? What can we answer Mr John Mueller?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> All the Best
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
>>>>>>>> Betreff: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search
>>>>>>>> Datum: Mon, 11 May 2020 13:37:27 +0200
>>>>>>>> Von: John Mueller 
>>>>>>>> An: morsei...@gmail.com, kay.sch...@gmail.com, legi...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Dear webmaster of forum.openoffice.org <http://forum.openoffice.org>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm an analyst at Google in Switzerland. We wanted to bring your
>>>>>>>> attention to a critical issue with your website, and how it's
>>>>>>>> available for Google's web search.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In particular, Googlebot has been unable to crawl URLs from
>>>>>>>> https://forum.openoffice.org/ . This will cause those pages to drop
>>>>>>>> out of Google's search results, and will prevent new pages from being
>>>>>>>> picked up for Search. If you're not aware of this issue, you may be
>>>>>>>> accidentally blocking these pages from Google Search due to a server
>>>>>>>> issue. If you need to block Googlebot from crawling pages on your
>>>>>>>> website, we'd recommend using the robots.txt file instead.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Should you need to recognize IP addresses of Googlebot requests, you
>>>>>>>> can use a reverse IP lookup to do so:
>>>>>>>> https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/80553
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Should you have any questions, feel free to contact me directly. For
>>>>>>>> verification purposes, we are sending a copy of this message to your
>>>>>>>> site's Search Console account.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>> John Mueller (joh...@google.com <mailto:joh...@google.com>)
>>>>>>>> Webmaster Trends Analyst
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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Re: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

2020-05-12 Thread Dave Fisher

#x27;t dig far enough to find how "skeleton.html" is used ( I
>>>> forgot) but this this is example for the google-analytics code snippet
>>>> that is used. Basically, this needs to be included in the site you
>>>> want analytics to be used on by putting it in the (header) files that
>>>> generate the site. And, you might  take a look at recent instructions
>>>> from Google. Things change.
>>>> 
>>>> https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/1008080
>>> Yes, but this is for Google Analytics. I wouldn't want to "analyze" the
>>> forum...
>>> The procedure for the Google Search Console is the same, it needs access
>>> to the root directory.
>>> 
>>> Maybe Andrea can help if he is available again?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>>   Matthias
>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Kay
>>>> 
>>>>>> One of the Google Search admins for forum.openoffice.org could check
>>>>>> the current Google search apis that are in use on that site. Changes
>>>>>> are occasionally made to the calls, and maybe that is the issue, or a
>>>>>> robots.txt for that site is causing this. I don't think it requires a
>>>>>> response, but maybe some investigation.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just some ideas...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kay
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 5/11/20 6:02 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have received following mail. Probably because I am listed in the
>>>>>>> google-Analytics page.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Does this has some action items? What can we answer Mr John Mueller?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> All the Best
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
>>>>>>> Betreff: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search
>>>>>>> Datum: Mon, 11 May 2020 13:37:27 +0200
>>>>>>> Von: John Mueller 
>>>>>>> An: morsei...@gmail.com, kay.sch...@gmail.com, legi...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dear webmaster of forum.openoffice.org <http://forum.openoffice.org>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm an analyst at Google in Switzerland. We wanted to bring your
>>>>>>> attention to a critical issue with your website, and how it's
>>>>>>> available for Google's web search.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In particular, Googlebot has been unable to crawl URLs from
>>>>>>> https://forum.openoffice.org/ . This will cause those pages to drop
>>>>>>> out of Google's search results, and will prevent new pages from being
>>>>>>> picked up for Search. If you're not aware of this issue, you may be
>>>>>>> accidentally blocking these pages from Google Search due to a server
>>>>>>> issue. If you need to block Googlebot from crawling pages on your
>>>>>>> website, we'd recommend using the robots.txt file instead.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Should you need to recognize IP addresses of Googlebot requests, you
>>>>>>> can use a reverse IP lookup to do so:
>>>>>>> https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/80553
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Should you have any questions, feel free to contact me directly. For
>>>>>>> verification purposes, we are sending a copy of this message to your
>>>>>>> site's Search Console account.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>> John Mueller (joh...@google.com <mailto:joh...@google.com>)
>>>>>>> Webmaster Trends Analyst
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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Re: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

2020-05-12 Thread Dave Fisher

/forum/docs
Disallow: /zh/forum/files
Disallow: /zh/forum/images
Disallow: /zh/forum/includes
Disallow: /zh/forum/language
Disallow: /zh/forum/store
Disallow: /zh/forum/styles

This has been the robots.txt file since: Last-Modified: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 
23:40:14 GMT

Forum search uses phpBB

We haven’t allowed search engines to crawl forum.openoffice.org since before 
the Oracle donation to the ASF.

Crawlers IP addresses might be blocked by ASF Infra if their use is excessive. 
That could give the 301.

Regards,
Dave

> On May 12, 2020, at 3:55 AM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> 
> What I figured is that from the Google search tool the URL 
> forum.openoffice.org is not reachable.
> 
> So I checked with Duckduckgo (my prefered Search engine), they don't use 
> crawler and point at the infra of Google, Bing and Yandex.
> 
> I checked then with Bing, but could not figure out to check bots feedback on 
> an URL so I moved on
> 
> I checked with Yandex. They have a search URL test page. I have entered there 
> forum.openoffice.org
> 
> The Response is:
> 
> 
> 
> * Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 10:37:47 GMT
> * Server: Apache/2.4.18 (Ubuntu)
> * Location: https://forum.openoffice.org/
> * Content-Length: 237
> * Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=100
> * Connection: Keep-Alive
> * Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
> 
> 
> 
> 
> HTTP status code  301 Moved Permanently
> Server response time  133 ms
> IP address54.84.201.130
> Encoding  UTF-8(unicode-1-1-utf-8, UTF8)
> Page size 237 B
> 
> 
> I am not sure, what that means. HTTP Status Code moved Permanently reads 
> wrong. I just dont know if this is the return code from our webservcer or a 
> response code from the crawler.
> I try to get someone from Infra. Or I'll open a ticket.
> 
> 
> All the best
> Peter
> 
> Am 12.05.20 um 10:39 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> Hi Kay,
>> 
>> Am 12.05.20 um 01:21 schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>> On 5/11/20 12:33 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>>> Hi Kay,
>>>> 
>>>> Am 11.05.20 um 21:23 schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>>>> Hi Peter...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since I am a Google Search admin for www.openoffice.org, and
>>>>> openoffice.apache.org, I got this also. Disclaimer: I have not done
>>>>> ANY work with the Google Search apis on these sites in quite some time.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I actually was NOT aware forum.openoffice.org was set up to use Google
>>>>> Search until I saw this.
>>>> I think, I added it to the list when we had a discussion about outdated
>>>> information regarding SourceForge found by Google Search.
>>>> 
>>>> But I don't have access to forum.openoffice.org, so I could never
>>>> complete the step.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Matthias
>>> OK. In the top level of the website source, there is a file called
>>> "skeleton.html" which references the following bit of code --
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I didn't dig far enough to find how "skeleton.html" is used ( I
>>> forgot) but this this is example for the google-analytics code snippet
>>> that is used. Basically, this needs to be included in the site you
>>> want analytics to be used on by putting it in the (header) files that
>>> generate the site. And, you might  take a look at recent instructions
>>> from Google. Things change.
>>> 
>>> https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/1008080
>> Yes, but this is for Google Analytics. I wouldn't want to "analyze" the
>> forum...
>> The procedure for the Google Search Console is the same, it needs access
>> to the root directory.
>> 
>> Maybe Andrea can help if he is available again?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>>Matthias
>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Kay
>>> 
>>>>> One of the Google Search admins for forum.openoffice.org could check
>>>>> the current Google search apis that are in use on that site. Changes
>>>>> are occasionally made to the calls, and maybe that is the issue, or a
>>>>> robots.txt for that site is causing this. I don't think it requires a
>>>>> response, but maybe some investigation.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just some ideas...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>

Re: Fwd: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

2020-05-12 Thread Matthias Seidel

Hi Kay,

Am 12.05.20 um 16:13 schrieb Kay Schenk:
> Oops! My misunderstanding. Sorry for the noise.

No noise (and no problem)! Google Analytics and Google Search are really
close together.

BTW: You (and Peter) also have access to the Google Search Console:

https://search.google.com/search-console

Regards,

   Matthias

>
> Regards,
> Kay
>
>
> On Tue, May 12, 2020, 01:39 Matthias Seidel 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Kay,
>>
>> Am 12.05.20 um 01:21 schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>> On 5/11/20 12:33 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>>> Hi Kay,
>>>>
>>>> Am 11.05.20 um 21:23 schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>>>> Hi Peter...
>>>>>
>>>>> Since I am a Google Search admin for www.openoffice.org, and
>>>>> openoffice.apache.org, I got this also. Disclaimer: I have not done
>>>>> ANY work with the Google Search apis on these sites in quite some time.
>>>>>
>>>>> I actually was NOT aware forum.openoffice.org was set up to use Google
>>>>> Search until I saw this.
>>>> I think, I added it to the list when we had a discussion about outdated
>>>> information regarding SourceForge found by Google Search.
>>>>
>>>> But I don't have access to forum.openoffice.org, so I could never
>>>> complete the step.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Matthias
>>> OK. In the top level of the website source, there is a file called
>>> "skeleton.html" which references the following bit of code --
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> I didn't dig far enough to find how "skeleton.html" is used ( I
>>> forgot) but this this is example for the google-analytics code snippet
>>> that is used. Basically, this needs to be included in the site you
>>> want analytics to be used on by putting it in the (header) files that
>>> generate the site. And, you might  take a look at recent instructions
>>> from Google. Things change.
>>>
>>> https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/1008080
>> Yes, but this is for Google Analytics. I wouldn't want to "analyze" the
>> forum...
>> The procedure for the Google Search Console is the same, it needs access
>> to the root directory.
>>
>> Maybe Andrea can help if he is available again?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>Matthias
>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Kay
>>>
>>>>> One of the Google Search admins for forum.openoffice.org could check
>>>>> the current Google search apis that are in use on that site. Changes
>>>>> are occasionally made to the calls, and maybe that is the issue, or a
>>>>> robots.txt for that site is causing this. I don't think it requires a
>>>>> response, but maybe some investigation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just some ideas...
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Kay
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/11/20 6:02 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have received following mail. Probably because I am listed in the
>>>>>> google-Analytics page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does this has some action items? What can we answer Mr John Mueller?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All the Best
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
>>>>>> Betreff: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search
>>>>>> Datum: Mon, 11 May 2020 13:37:27 +0200
>>>>>> Von: John Mueller 
>>>>>> An: morsei...@gmail.com, kay.sch...@gmail.com, legi...@gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear webmaster of forum.openoffice.org <http://forum.openoffice.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm an analyst at Google in Switzerland. We wanted to bring your
>>>>>> attention to a critical issue with your website, and how it's
>>>>>> available for Google's web search.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In particular, Googlebot has been unable to crawl URLs from
>>>>>> https://forum.openoffice.org/ . This will cause those pages to drop
>>>>>>

Re: Fwd: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

2020-05-12 Thread Kay Schenk

Oops! My misunderstanding. Sorry for the noise.

Regards,
Kay


On Tue, May 12, 2020, 01:39 Matthias Seidel 
wrote:

> Hi Kay,
>
> Am 12.05.20 um 01:21 schrieb Kay Schenk:
> >
> > On 5/11/20 12:33 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
> >> Hi Kay,
> >>
> >> Am 11.05.20 um 21:23 schrieb Kay Schenk:
> >>> Hi Peter...
> >>>
> >>> Since I am a Google Search admin for www.openoffice.org, and
> >>> openoffice.apache.org, I got this also. Disclaimer: I have not done
> >>> ANY work with the Google Search apis on these sites in quite some time.
> >>>
> >>> I actually was NOT aware forum.openoffice.org was set up to use Google
> >>> Search until I saw this.
> >> I think, I added it to the list when we had a discussion about outdated
> >> information regarding SourceForge found by Google Search.
> >>
> >> But I don't have access to forum.openoffice.org, so I could never
> >> complete the step.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Matthias
> >
> > OK. In the top level of the website source, there is a file called
> > "skeleton.html" which references the following bit of code --
> >
> > 
> >
> > I didn't dig far enough to find how "skeleton.html" is used ( I
> > forgot) but this this is example for the google-analytics code snippet
> > that is used. Basically, this needs to be included in the site you
> > want analytics to be used on by putting it in the (header) files that
> > generate the site. And, you might  take a look at recent instructions
> > from Google. Things change.
> >
> > https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/1008080
>
> Yes, but this is for Google Analytics. I wouldn't want to "analyze" the
> forum...
> The procedure for the Google Search Console is the same, it needs access
> to the root directory.
>
> Maybe Andrea can help if he is available again?
>
> Regards,
>
>Matthias
>
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Kay
> >
> >>> One of the Google Search admins for forum.openoffice.org could check
> >>> the current Google search apis that are in use on that site. Changes
> >>> are occasionally made to the calls, and maybe that is the issue, or a
> >>> robots.txt for that site is causing this. I don't think it requires a
> >>> response, but maybe some investigation.
> >>>
> >>> Just some ideas...
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Kay
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 5/11/20 6:02 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote:
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>> I have received following mail. Probably because I am listed in the
> >>>> google-Analytics page.
> >>>>
> >>>> Does this has some action items? What can we answer Mr John Mueller?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> All the Best
> >>>>
> >>>> Peter
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>  Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
> >>>> Betreff: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search
> >>>> Datum: Mon, 11 May 2020 13:37:27 +0200
> >>>> Von: John Mueller 
> >>>> An: morsei...@gmail.com, kay.sch...@gmail.com, legi...@gmail.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear webmaster of forum.openoffice.org <http://forum.openoffice.org>
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm an analyst at Google in Switzerland. We wanted to bring your
> >>>> attention to a critical issue with your website, and how it's
> >>>> available for Google's web search.
> >>>>
> >>>> In particular, Googlebot has been unable to crawl URLs from
> >>>> https://forum.openoffice.org/ . This will cause those pages to drop
> >>>> out of Google's search results, and will prevent new pages from being
> >>>> picked up for Search. If you're not aware of this issue, you may be
> >>>> accidentally blocking these pages from Google Search due to a server
> >>>> issue. If you need to block Googlebot from crawling pages on your
> >>>> website, we'd recommend using the robots.txt file instead.
> >>>>
> >>>> Should you need to recognize IP addresses of Googlebot requests, you
> >>>> can use a reverse IP lookup to do so:
> >>>> https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/80553
> >>>>
> >>>> Should you have any questions, feel free to contact me directly. For
> >>>> verification purposes, we are sending a copy of this message to your
> >>>> site's Search Console account.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you,
> >>>> John Mueller (joh...@google.com <mailto:joh...@google.com>)
> >>>> Webmaster Trends Analyst
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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Re: Fwd: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

2020-05-12 Thread Peter Kovacs


Hello all,


What I figured is that from the Google search tool the URL 
forum.openoffice.org is not reachable.


So I checked with Duckduckgo (my prefered Search engine), they don't use 
crawler and point at the infra of Google, Bing and Yandex.


I checked then with Bing, but could not figure out to check bots 
feedback on an URL so I moved on


I checked with Yandex. They have a search URL test page. I have entered 
there forum.openoffice.org


The Response is:



 * Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 10:37:47 GMT
 * Server: Apache/2.4.18 (Ubuntu)
 * Location: https://forum.openoffice.org/
 * Content-Length: 237
 * Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=100
 * Connection: Keep-Alive
 * Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1




HTTP status code301 Moved Permanently
Server response time133 ms
IP address  54.84.201.130
EncodingUTF-8(unicode-1-1-utf-8, UTF8)
Page size   237 B


I am not sure, what that means. HTTP Status Code moved Permanently reads 
wrong. I just dont know if this is the return code from our webservcer 
or a response code from the crawler.

I try to get someone from Infra. Or I'll open a ticket.


All the best
Peter

Am 12.05.20 um 10:39 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Kay,

Am 12.05.20 um 01:21 schrieb Kay Schenk:

On 5/11/20 12:33 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Kay,

Am 11.05.20 um 21:23 schrieb Kay Schenk:

Hi Peter...

Since I am a Google Search admin for www.openoffice.org, and
openoffice.apache.org, I got this also. Disclaimer: I have not done
ANY work with the Google Search apis on these sites in quite some time.

I actually was NOT aware forum.openoffice.org was set up to use Google
Search until I saw this.

I think, I added it to the list when we had a discussion about outdated
information regarding SourceForge found by Google Search.

But I don't have access to forum.openoffice.org, so I could never
complete the step.

Regards,

     Matthias

OK. In the top level of the website source, there is a file called
"skeleton.html" which references the following bit of code --



I didn't dig far enough to find how "skeleton.html" is used ( I
forgot) but this this is example for the google-analytics code snippet
that is used. Basically, this needs to be included in the site you
want analytics to be used on by putting it in the (header) files that
generate the site. And, you might  take a look at recent instructions
from Google. Things change.

https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/1008080

Yes, but this is for Google Analytics. I wouldn't want to "analyze" the
forum...
The procedure for the Google Search Console is the same, it needs access
to the root directory.

Maybe Andrea can help if he is available again?

Regards,

    Matthias


Regards,

Kay


One of the Google Search admins for forum.openoffice.org could check
the current Google search apis that are in use on that site. Changes
are occasionally made to the calls, and maybe that is the issue, or a
robots.txt for that site is causing this. I don't think it requires a
response, but maybe some investigation.

Just some ideas...

Regards,

Kay


On 5/11/20 6:02 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote:

Hi all,

I have received following mail. Probably because I am listed in the
google-Analytics page.

Does this has some action items? What can we answer Mr John Mueller?


All the Best

Peter



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Betreff:     Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search
Datum: Mon, 11 May 2020 13:37:27 +0200
Von: John Mueller 
An: morsei...@gmail.com, kay.sch...@gmail.com, legi...@gmail.com



Dear webmaster of forum.openoffice.org <http://forum.openoffice.org>

I'm an analyst at Google in Switzerland. We wanted to bring your
attention to a critical issue with your website, and how it's
available for Google's web search.

In particular, Googlebot has been unable to crawl URLs from
https://forum.openoffice.org/ . This will cause those pages to drop
out of Google's search results, and will prevent new pages from being
picked up for Search. If you're not aware of this issue, you may be
accidentally blocking these pages from Google Search due to a server
issue. If you need to block Googlebot from crawling pages on your
website, we'd recommend using the robots.txt file instead.

Should you need to recognize IP addresses of Googlebot requests, you
can use a reverse IP lookup to do so:
https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/80553

Should you have any questions, feel free to contact me directly. For
verification purposes, we are sending a copy of this message to your
site's Search Console account.

Thank you,
John Mueller (joh...@google.com <mailto:joh...@google.com>)
Webmaster Trends Analyst





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Re: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

2020-05-12 Thread John Mueller

Hi Peter

It looks like Google's infrastructure for crawling the web can't access any
URLs at all from forum.openoffice.org, including the homepage. Sometimes
this is due to a firewall or abuse protection system recognizing these
requests as malicious. Over time, as we attempt to update the pages in the
search results by crawling URLs from the site, if we see that we can't
access them at all, they generally get removed from our search results, In
practice, this means that users won't be able to find your pages in Google
Search. Sometimes websites do that on purpose, if they don't want to be
found in search, I suspect it's more of an accident here. A simple way to
test is to use  https://search.google.com/test/mobile-friendly to check
URLs from your site (better would be to use
https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/9012289 , though that would
require verification of the site in Google Search Console first).

Hope this helps!
John

On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 10:33 AM Peter Kovacs  wrote:

> Hello Mr Mueller,
>
>
> The forum.openoffice.org is our support Forum. When people have issues
> they are often directed to this page for solutions.
>
> Do you have a list of URLs googlebot has not able to crawl? We can then
> check if the behavior is intended or not and we can tell you the reason for
> this measurement.
>
> I am not particular skilled in google search engine. I do not understand
> the sentence:
>
> This will cause those pages to drop out of Google's search results, and
> will prevent new pages from being picked up for Search.
>
> Can you explain this in an example please?
>
>
> Thanks for the support.
>
> All the best
>
> Peter
>
>
> Am 11.05.20 um 13:37 schrieb John Mueller:
>
> Dear webmaster of forum.openoffice.org
>
> I'm an analyst at Google in Switzerland. We wanted to bring your attention
> to a critical issue with your website, and how it's available for Google's
> web search.
>
> In particular, Googlebot has been unable to crawl URLs from
> https://forum.openoffice.org/ . This will cause those pages to drop out
> of Google's search results, and will prevent new pages from being picked up
> for Search. If you're not aware of this issue, you may be accidentally
> blocking these pages from Google Search due to a server issue. If you need
> to block Googlebot from crawling pages on your website, we'd recommend
> using the robots.txt file instead.
>
> Should you need to recognize IP addresses of Googlebot requests, you can
> use a reverse IP lookup to do so:
> https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/80553
>
> Should you have any questions, feel free to contact me directly. For
> verification purposes, we are sending a copy of this message to your site's
> Search Console account.
>
> Thank you,
> John Mueller (joh...@google.com)
> Webmaster Trends Analyst
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> John Mueller, He/Him, Search Relations Team - go/search-rel
> 
> WTA is now Search-Rel (info
> )
>
> *Time-critical? Resend with "URGENT" in the subject.*
>
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>
> Identifikationsnummer:
> CH-020.4.028.116-1
>
>

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)

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Re: Fwd: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

2020-05-12 Thread Matthias Seidel

Hi Kay,

Am 12.05.20 um 01:21 schrieb Kay Schenk:
>
> On 5/11/20 12:33 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>> Hi Kay,
>>
>> Am 11.05.20 um 21:23 schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>> Hi Peter...
>>>
>>> Since I am a Google Search admin for www.openoffice.org, and
>>> openoffice.apache.org, I got this also. Disclaimer: I have not done
>>> ANY work with the Google Search apis on these sites in quite some time.
>>>
>>> I actually was NOT aware forum.openoffice.org was set up to use Google
>>> Search until I saw this.
>> I think, I added it to the list when we had a discussion about outdated
>> information regarding SourceForge found by Google Search.
>>
>> But I don't have access to forum.openoffice.org, so I could never
>> complete the step.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>     Matthias
>
> OK. In the top level of the website source, there is a file called
> "skeleton.html" which references the following bit of code --
>
> 
>
> I didn't dig far enough to find how "skeleton.html" is used ( I
> forgot) but this this is example for the google-analytics code snippet
> that is used. Basically, this needs to be included in the site you
> want analytics to be used on by putting it in the (header) files that
> generate the site. And, you might  take a look at recent instructions
> from Google. Things change.
>
> https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/1008080

Yes, but this is for Google Analytics. I wouldn't want to "analyze" the
forum...
The procedure for the Google Search Console is the same, it needs access
to the root directory.

Maybe Andrea can help if he is available again?

Regards,

   Matthias

>
> Regards,
>
> Kay
>
>>> One of the Google Search admins for forum.openoffice.org could check
>>> the current Google search apis that are in use on that site. Changes
>>> are occasionally made to the calls, and maybe that is the issue, or a
>>> robots.txt for that site is causing this. I don't think it requires a
>>> response, but maybe some investigation.
>>>
>>> Just some ideas...
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Kay
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/11/20 6:02 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I have received following mail. Probably because I am listed in the
>>>> google-Analytics page.
>>>>
>>>> Does this has some action items? What can we answer Mr John Mueller?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All the Best
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
>>>> Betreff: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search
>>>> Datum: Mon, 11 May 2020 13:37:27 +0200
>>>> Von: John Mueller 
>>>> An: morsei...@gmail.com, kay.sch...@gmail.com, legi...@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear webmaster of forum.openoffice.org <http://forum.openoffice.org>
>>>>
>>>> I'm an analyst at Google in Switzerland. We wanted to bring your
>>>> attention to a critical issue with your website, and how it's
>>>> available for Google's web search.
>>>>
>>>> In particular, Googlebot has been unable to crawl URLs from
>>>> https://forum.openoffice.org/ . This will cause those pages to drop
>>>> out of Google's search results, and will prevent new pages from being
>>>> picked up for Search. If you're not aware of this issue, you may be
>>>> accidentally blocking these pages from Google Search due to a server
>>>> issue. If you need to block Googlebot from crawling pages on your
>>>> website, we'd recommend using the robots.txt file instead.
>>>>
>>>> Should you need to recognize IP addresses of Googlebot requests, you
>>>> can use a reverse IP lookup to do so:
>>>> https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/80553
>>>>
>>>> Should you have any questions, feel free to contact me directly. For
>>>> verification purposes, we are sending a copy of this message to your
>>>> site's Search Console account.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> John Mueller (joh...@google.com <mailto:joh...@google.com>)
>>>> Webmaster Trends Analyst
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

2020-05-12 Thread Peter Kovacs


Hello Mr Mueller,


The forum.openoffice.org is our support Forum. When people have issues 
they are often directed to this page for solutions.


Do you have a list of URLs googlebot has not able to crawl? We can then 
check if the behavior is intended or not and we can tell you the reason 
for this measurement.


I am not particular skilled in google search engine. I do not understand 
the sentence:


This will cause those pages to drop out of Google's search results, 
and will prevent new pages from being picked up for Search. 

Can you explain this in an example please?


Thanks for the support.

All the best

Peter


Am 11.05.20 um 13:37 schrieb John Mueller:

Dear webmaster of forum.openoffice.org 

I'm an analyst at Google in Switzerland. We wanted to bring your 
attention to a critical issue with your website, and how it's 
available for Google's web search.


In particular, Googlebot has been unable to crawl URLs from 
https://forum.openoffice.org/ . This will cause those pages to drop 
out of Google's search results, and will prevent new pages from being 
picked up for Search. If you're not aware of this issue, you may be 
accidentally blocking these pages from Google Search due to a server 
issue. If you need to block Googlebot from crawling pages on your 
website, we'd recommend using the robots.txt file instead.


Should you need to recognize IP addresses of Googlebot requests, you 
can use a reverse IP lookup to do so: 
https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/80553


Should you have any questions, feel free to contact me directly. For 
verification purposes, we are sending a copy of this message to your 
site's Search Console account.


Thank you,
John Mueller (joh...@google.com )
Webmaster Trends Analyst




--

John Mueller, He/Him, Search Relations Team - go/search-rel 

WTA is now Search-Rel (info 
)


*Time-critical? Resend with "URGENT" in the subject.*

Google Switzerland GmbH
Gustav-Gull-Platz 1, 3. Stock
8004 Zurich, Switzerland

Identifikationsnummer:
CH-020.4.028.116-1

Re: Fwd: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

2020-05-11 Thread Kay Schenk




On 5/11/20 12:33 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Kay,

Am 11.05.20 um 21:23 schrieb Kay Schenk:

Hi Peter...

Since I am a Google Search admin for www.openoffice.org, and
openoffice.apache.org, I got this also. Disclaimer: I have not done
ANY work with the Google Search apis on these sites in quite some time.

I actually was NOT aware forum.openoffice.org was set up to use Google
Search until I saw this.

I think, I added it to the list when we had a discussion about outdated
information regarding SourceForge found by Google Search.

But I don't have access to forum.openoffice.org, so I could never
complete the step.

Regards,

    Matthias


OK. In the top level of the website source, there is a file called 
"skeleton.html" which references the following bit of code --




I didn't dig far enough to find how "skeleton.html" is used ( I forgot) 
but this this is example for the google-analytics code snippet that is 
used. Basically, this needs to be included in the site you want 
analytics to be used on by putting it in the (header) files that 
generate the site. And, you might  take a look at recent instructions 
from Google. Things change.


https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/1008080

Regards,

Kay


One of the Google Search admins for forum.openoffice.org could check
the current Google search apis that are in use on that site. Changes
are occasionally made to the calls, and maybe that is the issue, or a
robots.txt for that site is causing this. I don't think it requires a
response, but maybe some investigation.

Just some ideas...

Regards,

Kay


On 5/11/20 6:02 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote:

Hi all,

I have received following mail. Probably because I am listed in the
google-Analytics page.

Does this has some action items? What can we answer Mr John Mueller?


All the Best

Peter



 Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
Betreff: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search
Datum: Mon, 11 May 2020 13:37:27 +0200
Von: John Mueller 
An: morsei...@gmail.com, kay.sch...@gmail.com, legi...@gmail.com



Dear webmaster of forum.openoffice.org <http://forum.openoffice.org>

I'm an analyst at Google in Switzerland. We wanted to bring your
attention to a critical issue with your website, and how it's
available for Google's web search.

In particular, Googlebot has been unable to crawl URLs from
https://forum.openoffice.org/ . This will cause those pages to drop
out of Google's search results, and will prevent new pages from being
picked up for Search. If you're not aware of this issue, you may be
accidentally blocking these pages from Google Search due to a server
issue. If you need to block Googlebot from crawling pages on your
website, we'd recommend using the robots.txt file instead.

Should you need to recognize IP addresses of Googlebot requests, you
can use a reverse IP lookup to do so:
https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/80553

Should you have any questions, feel free to contact me directly. For
verification purposes, we are sending a copy of this message to your
site's Search Console account.

Thank you,
John Mueller (joh...@google.com <mailto:joh...@google.com>)
Webmaster Trends Analyst





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Re: Fwd: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

2020-05-11 Thread Hagar Delest


Hi,

Maybe Andrea can help.
Forum admins don't have the karma for that.

Hagar

Le 11/05/2020 à 21:33, Matthias Seidel a écrit :

Hi Kay,

Am 11.05.20 um 21:23 schrieb Kay Schenk:

Hi Peter...

Since I am a Google Search admin for www.openoffice.org, and
openoffice.apache.org, I got this also. Disclaimer: I have not done
ANY work with the Google Search apis on these sites in quite some time.

I actually was NOT aware forum.openoffice.org was set up to use Google
Search until I saw this.

I think, I added it to the list when we had a discussion about outdated
information regarding SourceForge found by Google Search.

But I don't have access to forum.openoffice.org, so I could never
complete the step.

Regards,

    Matthias


One of the Google Search admins for forum.openoffice.org could check
the current Google search apis that are in use on that site. Changes
are occasionally made to the calls, and maybe that is the issue, or a
robots.txt for that site is causing this. I don't think it requires a
response, but maybe some investigation.

Just some ideas...

Regards,

Kay


On 5/11/20 6:02 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote:

Hi all,

I have received following mail. Probably because I am listed in the
google-Analytics page.

Does this has some action items? What can we answer Mr John Mueller?


All the Best

Peter



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Betreff: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search
Datum: Mon, 11 May 2020 13:37:27 +0200
Von: John Mueller 
An: morsei...@gmail.com, kay.sch...@gmail.com, legi...@gmail.com



Dear webmaster of forum.openoffice.org <http://forum.openoffice.org>

I'm an analyst at Google in Switzerland. We wanted to bring your
attention to a critical issue with your website, and how it's
available for Google's web search.

In particular, Googlebot has been unable to crawl URLs from
https://forum.openoffice.org/ . This will cause those pages to drop
out of Google's search results, and will prevent new pages from being
picked up for Search. If you're not aware of this issue, you may be
accidentally blocking these pages from Google Search due to a server
issue. If you need to block Googlebot from crawling pages on your
website, we'd recommend using the robots.txt file instead.

Should you need to recognize IP addresses of Googlebot requests, you
can use a reverse IP lookup to do so:
https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/80553

Should you have any questions, feel free to contact me directly. For
verification purposes, we are sending a copy of this message to your
site's Search Console account.

Thank you,
John Mueller (joh...@google.com <mailto:joh...@google.com>)
Webmaster Trends Analyst





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Re: Fwd: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

2020-05-11 Thread Matthias Seidel

Hi Kay,

Am 11.05.20 um 21:23 schrieb Kay Schenk:
> Hi Peter...
>
> Since I am a Google Search admin for www.openoffice.org, and
> openoffice.apache.org, I got this also. Disclaimer: I have not done
> ANY work with the Google Search apis on these sites in quite some time.
>
> I actually was NOT aware forum.openoffice.org was set up to use Google
> Search until I saw this.

I think, I added it to the list when we had a discussion about outdated
information regarding SourceForge found by Google Search.

But I don't have access to forum.openoffice.org, so I could never
complete the step.

Regards,

   Matthias

>
> One of the Google Search admins for forum.openoffice.org could check
> the current Google search apis that are in use on that site. Changes
> are occasionally made to the calls, and maybe that is the issue, or a
> robots.txt for that site is causing this. I don't think it requires a
> response, but maybe some investigation.
>
> Just some ideas...
>
> Regards,
>
> Kay
>
>
> On 5/11/20 6:02 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have received following mail. Probably because I am listed in the
>> google-Analytics page.
>>
>> Does this has some action items? What can we answer Mr John Mueller?
>>
>>
>> All the Best
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>>
>>  Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
>> Betreff: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search
>> Datum: Mon, 11 May 2020 13:37:27 +0200
>> Von: John Mueller 
>> An: morsei...@gmail.com, kay.sch...@gmail.com, legi...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear webmaster of forum.openoffice.org <http://forum.openoffice.org>
>>
>> I'm an analyst at Google in Switzerland. We wanted to bring your
>> attention to a critical issue with your website, and how it's
>> available for Google's web search.
>>
>> In particular, Googlebot has been unable to crawl URLs from
>> https://forum.openoffice.org/ . This will cause those pages to drop
>> out of Google's search results, and will prevent new pages from being
>> picked up for Search. If you're not aware of this issue, you may be
>> accidentally blocking these pages from Google Search due to a server
>> issue. If you need to block Googlebot from crawling pages on your
>> website, we'd recommend using the robots.txt file instead.
>>
>> Should you need to recognize IP addresses of Googlebot requests, you
>> can use a reverse IP lookup to do so:
>> https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/80553
>>
>> Should you have any questions, feel free to contact me directly. For
>> verification purposes, we are sending a copy of this message to your
>> site's Search Console account.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> John Mueller (joh...@google.com <mailto:joh...@google.com>)
>> Webmaster Trends Analyst
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: Fwd: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

2020-05-11 Thread Kay Schenk


Hi Peter...

Since I am a Google Search admin for www.openoffice.org, and 
openoffice.apache.org, I got this also. Disclaimer: I have not done ANY 
work with the Google Search apis on these sites in quite some time.


I actually was NOT aware forum.openoffice.org was set up to use Google 
Search until I saw this.


One of the Google Search admins for forum.openoffice.org could check the 
current Google search apis that are in use on that site. Changes are 
occasionally made to the calls, and maybe that is the issue, or a 
robots.txt for that site is causing this. I don't think it requires a 
response, but maybe some investigation.


Just some ideas...

Regards,

Kay


On 5/11/20 6:02 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote:

Hi all,

I have received following mail. Probably because I am listed in the 
google-Analytics page.


Does this has some action items? What can we answer Mr John Mueller?


All the Best

Peter



 Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
Betreff: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search
Datum: Mon, 11 May 2020 13:37:27 +0200
Von: John Mueller 
An: morsei...@gmail.com, kay.sch...@gmail.com, legi...@gmail.com



Dear webmaster of forum.openoffice.org <http://forum.openoffice.org>

I'm an analyst at Google in Switzerland. We wanted to bring your 
attention to a critical issue with your website, and how it's 
available for Google's web search.


In particular, Googlebot has been unable to crawl URLs from 
https://forum.openoffice.org/ . This will cause those pages to drop 
out of Google's search results, and will prevent new pages from being 
picked up for Search. If you're not aware of this issue, you may be 
accidentally blocking these pages from Google Search due to a server 
issue. If you need to block Googlebot from crawling pages on your 
website, we'd recommend using the robots.txt file instead.


Should you need to recognize IP addresses of Googlebot requests, you 
can use a reverse IP lookup to do so: 
https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/80553


Should you have any questions, feel free to contact me directly. For 
verification purposes, we are sending a copy of this message to your 
site's Search Console account.


Thank you,
John Mueller (joh...@google.com <mailto:joh...@google.com>)
Webmaster Trends Analyst






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Fwd: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

2020-05-11 Thread Peter Kovacs


Hi all,

I have received following mail. Probably because I am listed in the 
google-Analytics page.


Does this has some action items? What can we answer Mr John Mueller?


All the Best

Peter



 Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
Betreff:Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search
Datum:  Mon, 11 May 2020 13:37:27 +0200
Von:John Mueller 
An: morsei...@gmail.com, kay.sch...@gmail.com, legi...@gmail.com



Dear webmaster of forum.openoffice.org <http://forum.openoffice.org>

I'm an analyst at Google in Switzerland. We wanted to bring your 
attention to a critical issue with your website, and how it's available 
for Google's web search.


In particular, Googlebot has been unable to crawl URLs from 
https://forum.openoffice.org/ . This will cause those pages to drop out 
of Google's search results, and will prevent new pages from being picked 
up for Search. If you're not aware of this issue, you may be 
accidentally blocking these pages from Google Search due to a server 
issue. If you need to block Googlebot from crawling pages on your 
website, we'd recommend using the robots.txt file instead.


Should you need to recognize IP addresses of Googlebot requests, you can 
use a reverse IP lookup to do so: 
https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/80553


Should you have any questions, feel free to contact me directly. For 
verification purposes, we are sending a copy of this message to your 
site's Search Console account.


Thank you,
John Mueller (joh...@google.com <mailto:joh...@google.com>)
Webmaster Trends Analyst




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