Re: Become the IMAP client for documents [Re: Differentiate or Die]

2016-09-20 Thread Peter Kovacs
Yeah I mean weird. Xen schrieb am So., 18. Sep. 2016, 15:17: > Peter Kovacs schreef op 18-09-2016 5:38: > > >> I don't know how much can be gained by simply using an alternative > >> that is in essence, the same kind of program. I still won't have cloud > >> access and will

Re: Become the IMAP client for documents [Re: Differentiate or Die]

2016-09-18 Thread Xen
Peter Kovacs schreef op 18-09-2016 5:38: I don't know how much can be gained by simply using an alternative that is in essence, the same kind of program. I still won't have cloud access and will be far away from using something like Google Drive or OneDrive. btw. have you tried dropbox? they

Re: Become the IMAP client for documents [Re: Differentiate or Die]

2016-09-17 Thread Peter Kovacs
On 17.09.2016 17:10, Xen wrote: I had not known about it, so thank you. I am not impressed with its looks, but they don't feature large size screenshots, so I don't know. you are welcome. I was also not impressed. the last writing tool that impressed me was Scribus. However that tool is

RE: Become the IMAP client for documents [Re: Differentiate or Die]

2016-09-17 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Xen [mailto:l...@xenhideout.nl] > Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 12:57 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Become the IMAP client for documents [Re: Differentiate or > Die] > > toki schreef op 17-09-2016 17:52: > &

Re: Become the IMAP client for documents [Re: Differentiate or Die]

2016-09-17 Thread Xen
toki schreef op 17-09-2016 17:52: On 17/09/2016 10:46, Peter Kovacs wrote: (Maybe WPS is a good alternate to you then. I read in the german Linux Why would a program whose developers, in the name of destroying the user experience, removed features, functionalities, and capabilities. The

Re: Become the IMAP client for documents [Re: Differentiate or Die]

2016-09-17 Thread toki
On 17/09/2016 10:46, Peter Kovacs wrote: > (Maybe WPS is a good alternate to you then. I read in the german Linux Why would a program whose developers, in the name of destroying the user experience, removed features, functionalities, and capabilities. The only user case in which that is a

Re: Become the IMAP client for documents [Re: Differentiate or Die]

2016-09-17 Thread Xen
Peter Kovacs schreef op 17-09-2016 12:46: Hello I have a question. I dont know the Open Document Foundation. But maybe they work on it. I mean they forked from Oracle OpenOffice because they were frustrated that the errors were not fixed. I personly do not know, but I would not be surprised

Re: Become the IMAP client for documents [Re: Differentiate or Die]

2016-09-17 Thread Peter Kovacs
Hello I have a question. I dont know the Open Document Foundation. But maybe they work on it. I mean they forked from Oracle OpenOffice because they were frustrated that the errors were not fixed. I personly do not know, but I would not be surprised if Apache Foundation as the successor

Re: Become the IMAP client for documents [Re: Differentiate or Die]

2016-09-16 Thread Xen
Dennis E. Hamilton schreef op 16-09-2016 18:23: However, OneDrive does accept ODT documents and they can be viewed on-line via Microsoft Office Web Apps (now called Office Online). There is online editing although it might require being a Microsoft Office user. I will have to check that.

RE: Become the IMAP client for documents [Re: Differentiate or Die]

2016-09-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Minor touch-up about OneDrive and Microsoft Office Web Apps. > -Original Message- > From: Xen [mailto:l...@xenhideout.nl] > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 04:40 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Become the IMAP client for documents [Re: Diffe

Become the IMAP client for documents [Re: Differentiate or Die]

2016-09-16 Thread Xen
Phillip Rhodes schreef op 08-09-2016 22:18: So anyway, just wanted to seed this discussion and hopefully provoke some serious thinking around this. Let's think hard about what we want to be so that we can easily say "Why develop/use AOO instead of X?" type questions. I just wanted to take

Re: Differentiate or Die

2016-09-16 Thread Xen
Jim Jagielski schreef op 09-09-2016 20:11: One of the great things about FOSS is the tight connection between users and developers. After all, most developers are users that have an itch to scratch. If there are things that the user community wants, then chances are good that developers will be

Re: Differentiate or Die

2016-09-09 Thread toki
On 09/09/2016 18:11, Jim Jagielski wrote: > We should be in touch with what our users, and our potential users, want. Do you mean something other https://bz.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?f1=votes=greaterthan=Bug%20Number_format=advanced=---=100 jonathon

Re: Differentiate or Die

2016-09-09 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 09/09/2016 à 20:11, Jim Jagielski a écrit : One of the great things about FOSS is the tight connection between users and developers. After all, most developers are users that have an itch to scratch. If there are things that the user community wants, then chances are good that developers

Re: Differentiate or Die

2016-09-09 Thread Jim Jagielski
One of the great things about FOSS is the tight connection between users and developers. After all, most developers are users that have an itch to scratch. If there are things that the user community wants, then chances are good that developers will be jazzed about working on them, or, at least,

Re: Differentiate or Die

2016-09-09 Thread Jim Jagielski
> On Sep 9, 2016, at 11:31 AM, Simos Xenitellis > wrote: > > > LibreOffice has a list of big ideas, called "crazy ideas", at > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crazy_Ideas > These require big effort and it would be great if an office suite > would

Re: Differentiate or Die

2016-09-09 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Jörg; ... > From: Pedro Giffuni [mailto:p...@apache.org] > The thing about so-called "marketing gurus" is that their assumptions > about how the markets work may break down when we are talking about > software that has zero cost. > > I will simplify the marketing issue making a bold

Re: Differentiate or Die

2016-09-09 Thread Simos Xenitellis
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 5:53 PM, Phillip Rhodes wrote: > Sure, I don't claim it's a perfect analogy between "their" world and the > world of F/OSS. > But I think the broad point generalizes well enough to apply to us: > > Have *some* differentiating factor that defines

Re: Differentiate or Die

2016-09-09 Thread Phillip Rhodes
Sure, I don't claim it's a perfect analogy between "their" world and the world of F/OSS. But I think the broad point generalizes well enough to apply to us: Have *some* differentiating factor that defines why a group of people would find your product more desirable than the other options. If,

Re: Differentiate or Die

2016-09-08 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> From: Pedro Giffuni [mailto:p...@apache.org] > The thing about so-called "marketing gurus" is that their assumptions > about how the markets work may break down when we are talking about > software that has zero cost. > > I will simplify the marketing issue making a bold statement: "We

Re: Differentiate or Die

2016-09-08 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Phillip; The thing about so-called "marketing gurus" is that their assumptions about how the markets work may break down when we are talking about software that has zero cost. I will simplify the marketing issue making a bold statement: "We have millions of users because we do 80% of