Re: Draft blog post: 75 Million Downloads of Apache OpenOffice

2013-11-03 Thread Vladislav Stevanovic
Hello,
I want to change AOO site in Serbian, to put this news about 75
millions downloads. Because I am know committer, what is now
different  for me? I mean, what way I can use now to change
(translate) AOO site on Serbian language?
Regards,
Wlada

2013/11/1 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org:
 On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Inge Wallin i...@lysator.liu.se wrote:
 On Thursday, October 31, 2013 13:20:19 Rob Weir wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Vladislav Stevanovic



 stevanovicvladis...@gmail.com wrote:

  Rob, very nice.

  Can you in chart Downloads by Language put numbers of download? There
  is

  pretty much of empty space...and everything will be much clearly.



 I don't see any option to do this with the function I'm using in R.

 I'm calling dotchart(). But I can give a separate table of counts:



 while we're at this topic...



 Just FYI: I am writing for a magazine called TechWorld in Sweden and I
 thought that it was time to mention Apache OpenOffice. So I wrote this a few
 days ago:
 http://techworld.idg.se/2.1014/1.530105/apache-openoffice-nerladdat-over-70-miljoner-ganger


 Hi Inge, Thanks for sending that along.   We went from 70 to 75 quickly!

 -Rob



 -Inge





 ar 85,678

 ast 11,667

 cs 513,261

 da 330,000

 de 7,886,040

 el 65,405

 en_GB 2,274,195

 en_US 27,408,931

 es 4,876,835

 eu 3,254

 fi 49,3241

 fr 11,503,844

 gd 1,972

 gl 1,4240

 hu 337,020

 it 6,059,711

 ja 3,809,689

 km 3,050

 ko 175,479

 lt 3,600

 nb 209,701

 nl 1,470,994

 pl 1,459,919

 pt 16,162

 pt_BR 923,549

 ru 329,3586

 sk 133,848

 sl 44,302

 sr 2,503

 sv 374,543

 ta 506

 tr 2,7373

 vi 2,462

 zh_TW 1,093,296

 zh_CN 350,369



 But these numbers are hard to interpret, since it is a count across

 several AOO versions, and some languages have been supported longer

 than others.



 Regards,



 -Rob



  Regards,

  Wlada

 

 

  2013/10/30 Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de

 

  Am 10/30/2013 07:04 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

  On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Donald Whytockdwhyt...@apache.org

 

  wrote:

  On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote:

  As predicted we hit 75 million yesterday. I updated the various

 

  charts and added them to a new blog post:

 

 

  https://blogs.apache.org/**preview/OOo/?previewEntry=75_**

 
  million_downloads_of_apachehttps://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?prev

  iewEntry=75_million_downloads_of_apache

  the full

 
  tablehttp://www.openoffice.**org/stats/countries.htmlhttp://www.open

  office.org/stats/countries.html

  our the

 

  website - the full tablehttp://www.openoffice.**

 
  org/stats/countries.htmlhttp://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html

  

 

  on

 

  the website

 

  on the Y-axis). - on the Y-axis.)

 

  Windows 8, is in second place - (suggested) Windows 8 for second

  place

 

  Thanks, I made those corrections.

 

  Thanks for collecting and visualizing those numbers. It's always again

  very interesting to see the interests of our users and trends into the

  future.

 

  Aside from that, is it more useful/intuitive to show the RPM/DEB ratio,

  as

 

  opposed to the multicolor fraction-of-volume you use for Windows? I

  realize it's only two values, but even for two values what's clearer

  for

  a

  user to read?

 

  I did try it with the RPM and DEB series each plotted, rather than a

  ratio. But the values are so close that the points piles on each

  other most of the time. I don't think it worked as well.

 

  When you have already seen 2 nearly identical lines for RPM and DEB
  then

  I

  would state this in the text - to make it clear that we don't see a

  preference in one of the both package systems.

 

 

 

  Please let me allow some further comments. Maybe you can add this or of

  course with different wordings:

 

  You can clearly see the increase in interest since the release of
  Apache

  OpenOffice 4.0.

 

  The difference comes due to more work that was put into press/news

  announcements as it was our first major release with new features - to

  make

  the difference to 3.4.0 and 3.4.1 more clear.

 

  Trend in OS

 

  Even when we know that the very most Linux users use the office suite

  that

  comes pre-installed with their Linux distro, IMHO it is really
  impressive

  that we still have ~2,000 to ~4,000 downloads - and that per day.

 

  Marcus

 

 

 

 
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Re: Draft blog post: 75 Million Downloads of Apache OpenOffice

2013-11-03 Thread Ricardo Berlasso
2013/11/3 Vladislav Stevanovic stevanovicvladis...@gmail.com

 Hello,
 I want to change AOO site in Serbian, to put this news about 75
 millions downloads. Because I am know committer, what is now
 different  for me? I mean, what way I can use now to change
 (translate) AOO site on Serbian language?
 Regards,
 Wlada



You have access to the Apache CMS system, as described here:

http://openoffice.apache.org/docs/edit-cms.html

If you do not have experience on html, try the Browser-based editing
workflow based on the JavaScript bookmarklet described there.

Regards,
Ricardo




 2013/11/1 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org:
  On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Inge Wallin i...@lysator.liu.se wrote:
  On Thursday, October 31, 2013 13:20:19 Rob Weir wrote:
 
  On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Vladislav Stevanovic
 
 
 
  stevanovicvladis...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Rob, very nice.
 
   Can you in chart Downloads by Language put numbers of download?
 There
   is
 
   pretty much of empty space...and everything will be much clearly.
 
 
 
  I don't see any option to do this with the function I'm using in R.
 
  I'm calling dotchart(). But I can give a separate table of counts:
 
 
 
  while we're at this topic...
 
 
 
  Just FYI: I am writing for a magazine called TechWorld in Sweden and I
  thought that it was time to mention Apache OpenOffice. So I wrote this
 a few
  days ago:
 
 http://techworld.idg.se/2.1014/1.530105/apache-openoffice-nerladdat-over-70-miljoner-ganger
 
 
  Hi Inge, Thanks for sending that along.   We went from 70 to 75 quickly!
 
  -Rob
 
 
 
  -Inge
 
 
 
 
 
  ar 85,678
 
  ast 11,667
 
  cs 513,261
 
  da 330,000
 
  de 7,886,040
 
  el 65,405
 
  en_GB 2,274,195
 
  en_US 27,408,931
 
  es 4,876,835
 
  eu 3,254
 
  fi 49,3241
 
  fr 11,503,844
 
  gd 1,972
 
  gl 1,4240
 
  hu 337,020
 
  it 6,059,711
 
  ja 3,809,689
 
  km 3,050
 
  ko 175,479
 
  lt 3,600
 
  nb 209,701
 
  nl 1,470,994
 
  pl 1,459,919
 
  pt 16,162
 
  pt_BR 923,549
 
  ru 329,3586
 
  sk 133,848
 
  sl 44,302
 
  sr 2,503
 
  sv 374,543
 
  ta 506
 
  tr 2,7373
 
  vi 2,462
 
  zh_TW 1,093,296
 
  zh_CN 350,369
 
 
 
  But these numbers are hard to interpret, since it is a count across
 
  several AOO versions, and some languages have been supported longer
 
  than others.
 
 
 
  Regards,
 
 
 
  -Rob
 
 
 
   Regards,
 
   Wlada
 
  
 
  
 
   2013/10/30 Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de
 
  
 
   Am 10/30/2013 07:04 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
 
   On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Donald Whytockdwhyt...@apache.org
 
 
  
 
   wrote:
 
   On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org
 wrote:
 
   As predicted we hit 75 million yesterday. I updated the various
 
  
 
   charts and added them to a new blog post:
 
  
 
  
 
   https://blogs.apache.org/**preview/OOo/?previewEntry=75_**
 
  
   million_downloads_of_apache
 https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?prev
 
   iewEntry=75_million_downloads_of_apache
 
   the full
 
  
   tablehttp://www.openoffice.**org/stats/countries.html
 http://www.open
 
   office.org/stats/countries.html
 
   our the
 
  
 
   website - the full tablehttp://www.openoffice.**
 
  
   org/stats/countries.html
 http://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html
 
   
 
  
 
   on
 
  
 
   the website
 
  
 
   on the Y-axis). - on the Y-axis.)
 
  
 
   Windows 8, is in second place - (suggested) Windows 8 for
 second
 
   place
 
  
 
   Thanks, I made those corrections.
 
  
 
   Thanks for collecting and visualizing those numbers. It's always
 again
 
   very interesting to see the interests of our users and trends into
 the
 
   future.
 
  
 
   Aside from that, is it more useful/intuitive to show the RPM/DEB
 ratio,
 
   as
 
  
 
   opposed to the multicolor fraction-of-volume you use for Windows?
 I
 
   realize it's only two values, but even for two values what's
 clearer
 
   for
 
   a
 
   user to read?
 
  
 
   I did try it with the RPM and DEB series each plotted, rather than
 a
 
   ratio. But the values are so close that the points piles on each
 
   other most of the time. I don't think it worked as well.
 
  
 
   When you have already seen 2 nearly identical lines for RPM and DEB
   then
 
   I
 
   would state this in the text - to make it clear that we don't see a
 
   preference in one of the both package systems.
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
   Please let me allow some further comments. Maybe you can add this
 or of
 
   course with different wordings:
 
  
 
   You can clearly see the increase in interest since the release of
   Apache
 
   OpenOffice 4.0.
 
  
 
   The difference comes due to more work that was put into press/news
 
   announcements as it was our first major release with new features -
 to
 
   make
 
   the difference to 3.4.0 and 3.4.1 more clear.
 
  
 
   Trend in OS
 
  
 
   Even when we know that the very most Linux users use the office
 suite
 
   that
 
   comes pre-installed with their Linux distro, IMHO it is really
   impressive
 
   that we 

Re: Draft blog post: 75 Million Downloads of Apache OpenOffice

2013-11-03 Thread Ricardo Berlasso
2013/11/3 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org

 Ricardo Berlasso wrote:

 2013/11/3 Vladislav Stevanovicstevanovicvladis...@gmail.com

 I want to change AOO site in Serbian, to put this news about 75
 millions downloads. Because I am know committer, what is now
 different  for me? I mean, what way I can use now to change
 (translate) AOO site on Serbian language?

 You have access to the Apache CMS system, as described here:

 http://openoffice.apache.org/docs/edit-cms.html
 If you do not have experience on html, try the Browser-based editing
 workflow based on the JavaScript bookmarklet described there.


 This won't work if you want to change the headline, but indeed it's very
 helpful to know how to use it. Did you already choose a password at
 https://id.apache.org/ ? If not, follow the reset your password
 procedure.

 The bookmarklet will ask for your Apache ID (wlada) and your password.
 Submit your change, then you can Publish the site.
 Please try with something very simple first, like adding a comma or
 changing a word in the text, so you learn how it works.

 To change the main headline, you need to do something more complex. The
 file to edit is this one:
 http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/
 content/sr-latn/brand.mdtext?view=markup
 You are welcome to do so yourself, if you setup an SVN client, but I don't
 know if you are already familiar with it and what system you use. What you
 need is an SVN Client that you will use to checkout the URL
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/sr-latn; 
 then you will edit the brand.mdtext file with any text editor and
 commit it back using your Apache ID and password. A popular beginner's
 choice for SVN clients under Windows is http://tortoisesvn.net/
 downloads.html


Once you entered the CMS with the bookmarklet from the NL main page, update
the directory and browse the directory content, you can edit brand.mdtext
without problems using the CMS interface, just selecting it from the list.
I've never used SVN for that.

Regards,
Ricardo




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Re: Draft blog post: 75 Million Downloads of Apache OpenOffice

2013-11-03 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Ricardo Berlasso wrote:

Once you entered the CMS with the bookmarklet from the NL main page, update
the directory and browse the directory content, you can edit brand.mdtext
without problems using the CMS interface, just selecting it from the list.


I had tried to do it with the CMS in this specific case
http://www.openoffice.org/sr-latn/
but brand.mdtext is empty for me in the CMS. This is why I said that it 
had to be edited in SVN. But topnav.mdtext is instead working as you say 
and can be edited in the CMS. Are you seeing the same? Maybe we hit some 
CMS bug with this specific file?



I've never used SVN for that.


On the contrary, I do most of my editing in SVN, so I cannot notice if a 
given brand.mdtext file is editable in the CMS. If in general (for other 
languages) it is possible to edit brand.mdtext in the CMS then we have a 
bug in this case.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Draft blog post: 75 Million Downloads of Apache OpenOffice

2013-11-03 Thread Ricardo Berlasso
2013/11/3 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org

 Ricardo Berlasso wrote:

 Once you entered the CMS with the bookmarklet from the NL main page,
 update
 the directory and browse the directory content, you can edit brand.mdtext
 without problems using the CMS interface, just selecting it from the list.


 I had tried to do it with the CMS in this specific case
 http://www.openoffice.org/sr-latn/
 but brand.mdtext is empty for me in the CMS. This is why I said that it
 had to be edited in SVN. But topnav.mdtext is instead working as you say
 and can be edited in the CMS. Are you seeing the same? Maybe we hit some
 CMS bug with this specific file?


OK, now I remember what happened. I think I commented this problem on
another thread, but it get lost from my memory: the file *seems* empty, but
the problem is that the field for the page header content (the one that
needs to be changed[1]) is below those empty fields and there is no way to
scroll down the page. Unless you have a really big monitor and your browser
maximized, the only way to access to that part of the page is to zoom it
out (Ctrl-scroll down), and well, firefox remember that kind of settings so
next time I went there everything was accessible... so probably yes, there
is a bug on that page that do not show the scroll bar, hiding the page
header field.

[1] there are three parameters in that field: announce, announceurl and
announcetip

Regards,
Ricardo





  I've never used SVN for that.


 On the contrary, I do most of my editing in SVN, so I cannot notice if a
 given brand.mdtext file is editable in the CMS. If in general (for other
 languages) it is possible to edit brand.mdtext in the CMS then we have a
 bug in this case.


 Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: Draft blog post: 75 Million Downloads of Apache OpenOffice

2013-11-03 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Ricardo Berlasso wrote:

the problem is that the field for the page header content (the one that
needs to be changed[1]) is below those empty fields and there is no way to
scroll down the page. Unless you have a really big monitor and your browser
maximized, the only way to access to that part of the page is to zoom it
out (Ctrl-scroll down)


Ah, nice trick! Yes, I confirm it is only a display issue. Everything 
can be edited in the CMS then, including the brand.mdtext file. No need 
for SVN.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Draft blog post: 75 Million Downloads of Apache OpenOffice

2013-11-03 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
 Ricardo Berlasso wrote:

 the problem is that the field for the page header content (the one that
 needs to be changed[1]) is below those empty fields and there is no way to
 scroll down the page. Unless you have a really big monitor and your
 browser
 maximized, the only way to access to that part of the page is to zoom it
 out (Ctrl-scroll down)


 Ah, nice trick! Yes, I confirm it is only a display issue. Everything can be
 edited in the CMS then, including the brand.mdtext file. No need for SVN.


It can help to tab to that field.

-Rob


 Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: Draft blog post: 75 Million Downloads of Apache OpenOffice

2013-11-01 Thread Inge Wallin
On Thursday, October 31, 2013 13:20:19 Rob Weir wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Vladislav Stevanovic
 
 stevanovicvladis...@gmail.com wrote:
  Rob, very nice.
  Can you in chart Downloads by Language put numbers of download? There is
  pretty much of empty space...and everything will be much clearly.
 
 I don't see any option to do this with the function I'm using in R.
 I'm calling dotchart().  But I can give a separate table of counts:

while we're at this topic...

Just FYI: I am writing for a magazine called TechWorld in Sweden and I thought 
that it was time to mention Apache OpenOffice. So I wrote this a few days ago: 
http://techworld.idg.se/2.1014/1.530105/apache-openoffice-nerladdat-over-70-
miljoner-ganger

-Inge


 ar 85,678
 ast 11,667
 cs 513,261
 da 330,000
 de 7,886,040
 el 65,405
 en_GB 2,274,195
 en_US 27,408,931
 es 4,876,835
 eu 3,254
 fi 49,3241
 fr 11,503,844
 gd 1,972
 gl 1,4240
 hu 337,020
 it 6,059,711
 ja 3,809,689
 km 3,050
 ko 175,479
 lt 3,600
 nb 209,701
 nl 1,470,994
 pl 1,459,919
 pt 16,162
 pt_BR 923,549
 ru 329,3586
 sk 133,848
 sl 44,302
 sr 2,503
 sv 374,543
 ta 506
 tr 2,7373
 vi 2,462
 zh_TW 1,093,296
 zh_CN 350,369
 
 But these numbers are hard to interpret, since it is a count across
 several AOO versions, and some languages have been supported longer
 than others.
 
 Regards,
 
 -Rob
 
  Regards,
  Wlada
  
  
  2013/10/30 Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de
  
  Am 10/30/2013 07:04 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
   On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Donald Whytockdwhyt...@apache.org
   
   wrote:
  On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org  wrote:
   As predicted we hit 75 million yesterday.  I updated the  various
   
  charts and added them to a new blog post:
  
  
  https://blogs.apache.org/**preview/OOo/?previewEntry=75_**
  million_downloads_of_apachehttps://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?prev
  iewEntry=75_million_downloads_of_apache 
  the full
  tablehttp://www.openoffice.**org/stats/countries.htmlhttp://www.open
  office.org/stats/countries.html 
   our the
  
  website -  the full tablehttp://www.openoffice.**
  org/stats/countries.htmlhttp://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html
  
  
   on
  
  the website
  
  on the Y-axis). -  on the Y-axis.)
  
  Windows 8, is in second place -  (suggested) Windows 8 for second
  place
  
  Thanks, I made those corrections.
  
  Thanks for collecting and visualizing those numbers. It's always again
  very interesting to see the interests of our users and trends into the
  future.
  
   Aside from that, is it more useful/intuitive to show the RPM/DEB ratio,
   as
   
  opposed to the multicolor fraction-of-volume you use for Windows?  I
  realize it's only two values, but even for two values what's clearer
  for
  a
  user to read?
  
  I did try it with the RPM and DEB series each plotted, rather than a
  ratio.  But the values are so close that the points piles on each
  other most of the time.  I don't think it worked as well.
  
  When you have already seen 2 nearly identical lines for RPM and DEB then
  I
  would state this in the text - to make it clear that we don't see a
  preference in one of the both package systems.
  
  
  
  Please let me allow some further comments. Maybe you can add this or of
  course with different wordings:
  
  You can clearly see the increase in interest since the release of Apache
  OpenOffice 4.0.
  
  The difference comes due to more work that was put into press/news
  announcements as it was our first major release with new features - to
  make
  the difference to 3.4.0 and 3.4.1 more clear.
  
  Trend in OS
  
  Even when we know that the very most Linux users use the office suite
  that
  comes pre-installed with their Linux distro, IMHO it is really impressive
  that we still have ~2,000 to ~4,000 downloads - and that per day.
  
  Marcus
  
  
  
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Re: Draft blog post: 75 Million Downloads of Apache OpenOffice

2013-11-01 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Inge Wallin i...@lysator.liu.se wrote:
 On Thursday, October 31, 2013 13:20:19 Rob Weir wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Vladislav Stevanovic



 stevanovicvladis...@gmail.com wrote:

  Rob, very nice.

  Can you in chart Downloads by Language put numbers of download? There
  is

  pretty much of empty space...and everything will be much clearly.



 I don't see any option to do this with the function I'm using in R.

 I'm calling dotchart(). But I can give a separate table of counts:



 while we're at this topic...



 Just FYI: I am writing for a magazine called TechWorld in Sweden and I
 thought that it was time to mention Apache OpenOffice. So I wrote this a few
 days ago:
 http://techworld.idg.se/2.1014/1.530105/apache-openoffice-nerladdat-over-70-miljoner-ganger


Hi Inge, Thanks for sending that along.   We went from 70 to 75 quickly!

-Rob



 -Inge





 ar 85,678

 ast 11,667

 cs 513,261

 da 330,000

 de 7,886,040

 el 65,405

 en_GB 2,274,195

 en_US 27,408,931

 es 4,876,835

 eu 3,254

 fi 49,3241

 fr 11,503,844

 gd 1,972

 gl 1,4240

 hu 337,020

 it 6,059,711

 ja 3,809,689

 km 3,050

 ko 175,479

 lt 3,600

 nb 209,701

 nl 1,470,994

 pl 1,459,919

 pt 16,162

 pt_BR 923,549

 ru 329,3586

 sk 133,848

 sl 44,302

 sr 2,503

 sv 374,543

 ta 506

 tr 2,7373

 vi 2,462

 zh_TW 1,093,296

 zh_CN 350,369



 But these numbers are hard to interpret, since it is a count across

 several AOO versions, and some languages have been supported longer

 than others.



 Regards,



 -Rob



  Regards,

  Wlada

 

 

  2013/10/30 Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de

 

  Am 10/30/2013 07:04 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

  On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Donald Whytockdwhyt...@apache.org

 

  wrote:

  On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote:

  As predicted we hit 75 million yesterday. I updated the various

 

  charts and added them to a new blog post:

 

 

  https://blogs.apache.org/**preview/OOo/?previewEntry=75_**

 
  million_downloads_of_apachehttps://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?prev

  iewEntry=75_million_downloads_of_apache

  the full

 
  tablehttp://www.openoffice.**org/stats/countries.htmlhttp://www.open

  office.org/stats/countries.html

  our the

 

  website - the full tablehttp://www.openoffice.**

 
  org/stats/countries.htmlhttp://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html

  

 

  on

 

  the website

 

  on the Y-axis). - on the Y-axis.)

 

  Windows 8, is in second place - (suggested) Windows 8 for second

  place

 

  Thanks, I made those corrections.

 

  Thanks for collecting and visualizing those numbers. It's always again

  very interesting to see the interests of our users and trends into the

  future.

 

  Aside from that, is it more useful/intuitive to show the RPM/DEB ratio,

  as

 

  opposed to the multicolor fraction-of-volume you use for Windows? I

  realize it's only two values, but even for two values what's clearer

  for

  a

  user to read?

 

  I did try it with the RPM and DEB series each plotted, rather than a

  ratio. But the values are so close that the points piles on each

  other most of the time. I don't think it worked as well.

 

  When you have already seen 2 nearly identical lines for RPM and DEB
  then

  I

  would state this in the text - to make it clear that we don't see a

  preference in one of the both package systems.

 

 

 

  Please let me allow some further comments. Maybe you can add this or of

  course with different wordings:

 

  You can clearly see the increase in interest since the release of
  Apache

  OpenOffice 4.0.

 

  The difference comes due to more work that was put into press/news

  announcements as it was our first major release with new features - to

  make

  the difference to 3.4.0 and 3.4.1 more clear.

 

  Trend in OS

 

  Even when we know that the very most Linux users use the office suite

  that

  comes pre-installed with their Linux distro, IMHO it is really
  impressive

  that we still have ~2,000 to ~4,000 downloads - and that per day.

 

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Re: Draft blog post: 75 Million Downloads of Apache OpenOffice

2013-10-31 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Vladislav Stevanovic
stevanovicvladis...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rob, very nice.
 Can you in chart Downloads by Language put numbers of download? There is
 pretty much of empty space...and everything will be much clearly.


I don't see any option to do this with the function I'm using in R.
I'm calling dotchart().  But I can give a separate table of counts:

ar 85,678
ast 11,667
cs 513,261
da 330,000
de 7,886,040
el 65,405
en_GB 2,274,195
en_US 27,408,931
es 4,876,835
eu 3,254
fi 49,3241
fr 11,503,844
gd 1,972
gl 1,4240
hu 337,020
it 6,059,711
ja 3,809,689
km 3,050
ko 175,479
lt 3,600
nb 209,701
nl 1,470,994
pl 1,459,919
pt 16,162
pt_BR 923,549
ru 329,3586
sk 133,848
sl 44,302
sr 2,503
sv 374,543
ta 506
tr 2,7373
vi 2,462
zh_TW 1,093,296
zh_CN 350,369

But these numbers are hard to interpret, since it is a count across
several AOO versions, and some languages have been supported longer
than others.

Regards,

-Rob


 Regards,
 Wlada


 2013/10/30 Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de

 Am 10/30/2013 07:04 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

  On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Donald Whytockdwhyt...@apache.org
  wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org  wrote:

  As predicted we hit 75 million yesterday.  I updated the  various
 charts and added them to a new blog post:


 https://blogs.apache.org/**preview/OOo/?previewEntry=75_**
 million_downloads_of_apachehttps://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=75_million_downloads_of_apache



 the full 
 tablehttp://www.openoffice.**org/stats/countries.htmlhttp://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html
  our the
 website -  the full tablehttp://www.openoffice.**
 org/stats/countries.htmlhttp://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html
  on
 the website

 on the Y-axis). -  on the Y-axis.)

 Windows 8, is in second place -  (suggested) Windows 8 for second
 place


 Thanks, I made those corrections.


 Thanks for collecting and visualizing those numbers. It's always again
 very interesting to see the interests of our users and trends into the
 future.


  Aside from that, is it more useful/intuitive to show the RPM/DEB ratio, as
 opposed to the multicolor fraction-of-volume you use for Windows?  I
 realize it's only two values, but even for two values what's clearer for
 a
 user to read?


 I did try it with the RPM and DEB series each plotted, rather than a
 ratio.  But the values are so close that the points piles on each
 other most of the time.  I don't think it worked as well.


 When you have already seen 2 nearly identical lines for RPM and DEB then I
 would state this in the text - to make it clear that we don't see a
 preference in one of the both package systems.



 Please let me allow some further comments. Maybe you can add this or of
 course with different wordings:

 You can clearly see the increase in interest since the release of Apache
 OpenOffice 4.0.

 The difference comes due to more work that was put into press/news
 announcements as it was our first major release with new features - to make
 the difference to 3.4.0 and 3.4.1 more clear.

 Trend in OS

 Even when we know that the very most Linux users use the office suite that
 comes pre-installed with their Linux distro, IMHO it is really impressive
 that we still have ~2,000 to ~4,000 downloads - and that per day.

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Re: Draft blog post: 75 Million Downloads of Apache OpenOffice

2013-10-31 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
 As predicted we hit 75 million yesterday.  I updated the  various
 charts and added them to a new blog post:

 https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=75_million_downloads_of_apache


If anyone is interested, I've uploaded a CSV of the raw data I used
for the charts:

https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/devtools/aoo-stats/75m.csv

You should be able to import the data right into Calc and do
additional analysis.

I also uploaded the R script I used to generate the charts for the blog post:

https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/devtools/aoo-stats/75m.R

(We really should work on a way to call R from Calc, pass data ranges,
return bitmaps for charts, etc.  It could be very powerful.)

If you come up with interesting new visualizations, we can do a 75
million, Part 2, blog post.

Regards,

-Rob


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Re: Draft blog post: 75 Million Downloads of Apache OpenOffice

2013-10-31 Thread Ricardo Berlasso
2013/10/31 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org

 On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
  As predicted we hit 75 million yesterday.  I updated the  various
  charts and added them to a new blog post:
 
 
 https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=75_million_downloads_of_apache
 

 If anyone is interested, I've uploaded a CSV of the raw data I used
 for the charts:

 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/devtools/aoo-stats/75m.csv

 You should be able to import the data right into Calc and do
 additional analysis.

 I also uploaded the R script I used to generate the charts for the blog
 post:

 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/devtools/aoo-stats/75m.R

 (We really should work on a way to call R from Calc, pass data ranges,
 return bitmaps for charts, etc.  It could be very powerful.)


There was an extension for that:

http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/r4calc-r-statistics-ooocalc

but it seems unmaintained. Not sure if it works now (or if it ever worked:
I never used it).

Regards,
Ricardo





 If you come up with interesting new visualizations, we can do a 75
 million, Part 2, blog post.

 Regards,

 -Rob


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Re: Draft blog post: 75 Million Downloads of Apache OpenOffice

2013-10-31 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Vladislav Stevanovic
 stevanovicvladis...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rob, very nice.
 Can you in chart Downloads by Language put numbers of download? There is
 pretty much of empty space...and everything will be much clearly.


 I don't see any option to do this with the function I'm using in R.
 I'm calling dotchart().  But I can give a separate table of counts:

 ar 85,678
 ast 11,667
 cs 513,261
 da 330,000
 de 7,886,040
 el 65,405
 en_GB 2,274,195
 en_US 27,408,931
 es 4,876,835
 eu 3,254
 fi 49,3241
 fr 11,503,844
 gd 1,972
 gl 1,4240
 hu 337,020
 it 6,059,711
 ja 3,809,689
 km 3,050
 ko 175,479
 lt 3,600
 nb 209,701
 nl 1,470,994
 pl 1,459,919
 pt 16,162
 pt_BR 923,549
 ru 329,3586
 sk 133,848
 sl 44,302
 sr 2,503
 sv 374,543
 ta 506
 tr 2,7373
 vi 2,462
 zh_TW 1,093,296
 zh_CN 350,369


Updated version. I misplaced the hundreds separator on some entries.

Note that this is for what language version was downloaded.   The web
page here reports on countries of the person downloading:
http://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html

ar 85,678
ast 11,667
cs 513,261
da 330,000
de 7,886,040
el 65,405
en_GB 2,274,195
en_US 27,408,931
es 4,876,835
eu 3,254
fi 493,241
fr 11,503,844
gd 1,972
gl 14,240
hu 337,020
it 6,059,711
ja 3,809,689
km 3,050
ko 175,479
lt 3,600
nb 209,701
nl 1,470,994
pl 1,459,919
pt 16,162
pt_BR 923,549
ru 3,293,586
sk 133,848
sl 44,302
sr 2,503
sv 374,543
ta 506
tr 2,7373
vi 2,462
zh_TW 1,093,296
zh_CN 350,369




 But these numbers are hard to interpret, since it is a count across
 several AOO versions, and some languages have been supported longer
 than others.

 Regards,

 -Rob


 Regards,
 Wlada


 2013/10/30 Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de

 Am 10/30/2013 07:04 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

  On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Donald Whytockdwhyt...@apache.org
  wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org  wrote:

  As predicted we hit 75 million yesterday.  I updated the  various
 charts and added them to a new blog post:


 https://blogs.apache.org/**preview/OOo/?previewEntry=75_**
 million_downloads_of_apachehttps://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=75_million_downloads_of_apache



 the full 
 tablehttp://www.openoffice.**org/stats/countries.htmlhttp://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html
  our the
 website -  the full tablehttp://www.openoffice.**
 org/stats/countries.htmlhttp://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html
  on
 the website

 on the Y-axis). -  on the Y-axis.)

 Windows 8, is in second place -  (suggested) Windows 8 for second
 place


 Thanks, I made those corrections.


 Thanks for collecting and visualizing those numbers. It's always again
 very interesting to see the interests of our users and trends into the
 future.


  Aside from that, is it more useful/intuitive to show the RPM/DEB ratio, as
 opposed to the multicolor fraction-of-volume you use for Windows?  I
 realize it's only two values, but even for two values what's clearer for
 a
 user to read?


 I did try it with the RPM and DEB series each plotted, rather than a
 ratio.  But the values are so close that the points piles on each
 other most of the time.  I don't think it worked as well.


 When you have already seen 2 nearly identical lines for RPM and DEB then I
 would state this in the text - to make it clear that we don't see a
 preference in one of the both package systems.



 Please let me allow some further comments. Maybe you can add this or of
 course with different wordings:

 You can clearly see the increase in interest since the release of Apache
 OpenOffice 4.0.

 The difference comes due to more work that was put into press/news
 announcements as it was our first major release with new features - to make
 the difference to 3.4.0 and 3.4.1 more clear.

 Trend in OS

 Even when we know that the very most Linux users use the office suite that
 comes pre-installed with their Linux distro, IMHO it is really impressive
 that we still have ~2,000 to ~4,000 downloads - and that per day.

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Draft blog post: 75 Million Downloads of Apache OpenOffice

2013-10-30 Thread Rob Weir
As predicted we hit 75 million yesterday.  I updated the  various
charts and added them to a new blog post:

https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=75_million_downloads_of_apache

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Re: Draft blog post: 75 Million Downloads of Apache OpenOffice

2013-10-30 Thread Donald Whytock
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 As predicted we hit 75 million yesterday.  I updated the  various
 charts and added them to a new blog post:


 https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=75_million_downloads_of_apache


the full table http://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html our the
website - the full table http://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html on
the website

on the Y-axis). - on the Y-axis.)

Windows 8, is in second place - (suggested) Windows 8 for second place

Aside from that, is it more useful/intuitive to show the RPM/DEB ratio, as
opposed to the multicolor fraction-of-volume you use for Windows?  I
realize it's only two values, but even for two values what's clearer for a
user to read?

Don


Re: Draft blog post: 75 Million Downloads of Apache OpenOffice

2013-10-30 Thread Donald Whytock
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@apache.org wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 As predicted we hit 75 million yesterday.  I updated the  various
 charts and added them to a new blog post:


 https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=75_million_downloads_of_apache


 the full table http://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html our the
 website - the full tablehttp://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html on
 the website

 on the Y-axis). - on the Y-axis.)

 Windows 8, is in second place - (suggested) Windows 8 for second
 place

 Aside from that, is it more useful/intuitive to show the RPM/DEB ratio, as
 opposed to the multicolor fraction-of-volume you use for Windows?  I
 realize it's only two values, but even for two values what's clearer for a
 user to read?

 Don


Oh, and trademark disclaimer.


Re: Draft blog post: 75 Million Downloads of Apache OpenOffice

2013-10-30 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@apache.org wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 As predicted we hit 75 million yesterday.  I updated the  various
 charts and added them to a new blog post:


 https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=75_million_downloads_of_apache


 the full table http://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html our the
 website - the full table http://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html 
 on
 the website

 on the Y-axis). - on the Y-axis.)

 Windows 8, is in second place - (suggested) Windows 8 for second place


Thanks, I made those corrections.

 Aside from that, is it more useful/intuitive to show the RPM/DEB ratio, as
 opposed to the multicolor fraction-of-volume you use for Windows?  I
 realize it's only two values, but even for two values what's clearer for a
 user to read?


I did try it with the RPM and DEB series each plotted, rather than a
ratio.  But the values are so close that the points piles on each
other most of the time.  I don't think it worked as well.

Regards,

-Rob


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Re: Draft blog post: 75 Million Downloads of Apache OpenOffice

2013-10-30 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Rob,

Rob Weir schrieb:

As predicted we hit 75 million yesterday.  I updated the  various
charts and added them to a new blog post:

https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=75_million_downloads_of_apache



that looks good and the wording is easy to understand.

Please look at sentence We show the full table our the website, of all 
238 countries, territories, etc., but here are the top 10. Seems a word 
is missing there.


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Re: Draft blog post: 75 Million Downloads of Apache OpenOffice

2013-10-30 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 10/30/2013 07:04 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Donald Whytockdwhyt...@apache.org  wrote:

On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org  wrote:


As predicted we hit 75 million yesterday.  I updated the  various
charts and added them to a new blog post:


https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=75_million_downloads_of_apache



the full tablehttp://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html  our the
website -  the full tablehttp://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html  on
the website

on the Y-axis). -  on the Y-axis.)

Windows 8, is in second place -  (suggested) Windows 8 for second place



Thanks, I made those corrections.


Thanks for collecting and visualizing those numbers. It's always again 
very interesting to see the interests of our users and trends into the 
future.



Aside from that, is it more useful/intuitive to show the RPM/DEB ratio, as
opposed to the multicolor fraction-of-volume you use for Windows?  I
realize it's only two values, but even for two values what's clearer for a
user to read?



I did try it with the RPM and DEB series each plotted, rather than a
ratio.  But the values are so close that the points piles on each
other most of the time.  I don't think it worked as well.


When you have already seen 2 nearly identical lines for RPM and DEB then 
I would state this in the text - to make it clear that we don't see a 
preference in one of the both package systems.




Please let me allow some further comments. Maybe you can add this or of 
course with different wordings:


You can clearly see the increase in interest since the release of 
Apache OpenOffice 4.0.


The difference comes due to more work that was put into press/news 
announcements as it was our first major release with new features - to 
make the difference to 3.4.0 and 3.4.1 more clear.


Trend in OS

Even when we know that the very most Linux users use the office suite 
that comes pre-installed with their Linux distro, IMHO it is really 
impressive that we still have ~2,000 to ~4,000 downloads - and that per day.


Marcus


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Re: Draft blog post: 75 Million Downloads of Apache OpenOffice

2013-10-30 Thread Vladislav Stevanovic
Rob, very nice.
Can you in chart Downloads by Language put numbers of download? There is
pretty much of empty space...and everything will be much clearly.

Regards,
Wlada


2013/10/30 Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de

 Am 10/30/2013 07:04 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

  On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Donald Whytockdwhyt...@apache.org
  wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org  wrote:

  As predicted we hit 75 million yesterday.  I updated the  various
 charts and added them to a new blog post:


 https://blogs.apache.org/**preview/OOo/?previewEntry=75_**
 million_downloads_of_apachehttps://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=75_million_downloads_of_apache



 the full 
 tablehttp://www.openoffice.**org/stats/countries.htmlhttp://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html
  our the
 website -  the full tablehttp://www.openoffice.**
 org/stats/countries.htmlhttp://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html
  on
 the website

 on the Y-axis). -  on the Y-axis.)

 Windows 8, is in second place -  (suggested) Windows 8 for second
 place


 Thanks, I made those corrections.


 Thanks for collecting and visualizing those numbers. It's always again
 very interesting to see the interests of our users and trends into the
 future.


  Aside from that, is it more useful/intuitive to show the RPM/DEB ratio, as
 opposed to the multicolor fraction-of-volume you use for Windows?  I
 realize it's only two values, but even for two values what's clearer for
 a
 user to read?


 I did try it with the RPM and DEB series each plotted, rather than a
 ratio.  But the values are so close that the points piles on each
 other most of the time.  I don't think it worked as well.


 When you have already seen 2 nearly identical lines for RPM and DEB then I
 would state this in the text - to make it clear that we don't see a
 preference in one of the both package systems.



 Please let me allow some further comments. Maybe you can add this or of
 course with different wordings:

 You can clearly see the increase in interest since the release of Apache
 OpenOffice 4.0.

 The difference comes due to more work that was put into press/news
 announcements as it was our first major release with new features - to make
 the difference to 3.4.0 and 3.4.1 more clear.

 Trend in OS

 Even when we know that the very most Linux users use the office suite that
 comes pre-installed with their Linux distro, IMHO it is really impressive
 that we still have ~2,000 to ~4,000 downloads - and that per day.

 Marcus



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