Re: From user on Facebook, saying BestBuy is telling users OpenOffice has viruses
Am 02/03/2015 03:17 AM, schrieb jonathon: On 02/02/15 22:29, Kay Schenk wrote: The fact that an individual says OpenOffice is loaded with viruses IS a problem. Maybe a note to BestBuy might be in order on this count. That won't be the first time,l and won't be the last time that somebody claims that Apache OpenOffice gave them a virus, when the virus was actually courtesy of the software that Sourceforge implies is what the person wants to download, but is actually a third party host for things that the downloader does not want. Sourceforge doesn't distribute software with viruses, malware, etc. Sometimes here and there are ads that have a bad agenda, sure. But when pointing Sourforge towards them they have stopped them very fast (which means within hours!). So, at the end *OpenOffice does not come with viruses*. In other words, fire Sourceforge as the host for all software distributed by the Apache Open Office Project. This request is of course ridiculous. Or do we have to understand your ranting that you are offering an alternative hosting on your server(s)? ;-) Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: From user on Facebook, saying BestBuy is telling users OpenOffice has viruses
On 03/02/2015 jonathon wrote: That won't be the first time,l and won't be the last time that somebody claims that Apache OpenOffice gave them a virus, when the virus was actually courtesy of the software that Sourceforge implies is what the person wants to download We've seen this happen a few times (i.e., misleading advertisement displayed on the SourceForge download page), but those ads were reported here (and probably they are also reported to the right channel, which would be this one http://sourceforge.net/blog/sourceforge-blockthis-initiative-update/ ) and promptly removed. Our biggest reputation problems do not come from there. They come from people who use search engines to find the OpenOffice site and are tricked by sponsored ads into download something else. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: From user on Facebook, saying BestBuy is telling users OpenOffice has viruses
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/02/15 22:29, Kay Schenk wrote: > The fact that an individual says OpenOffice is loaded with viruses IS a > problem. Maybe a note to BestBuy might be in order on this count. That won't be the first time,l and won't be the last time that somebody claims that Apache OpenOffice gave them a virus, when the virus was actually courtesy of the software that Sourceforge implies is what the person wants to download, but is actually a third party host for things that the downloader does not want. In other words, fire Sourceforge as the host for all software distributed by the Apache Open Office Project. jonathon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJU0C+uAAoJEKG7hs8nSMR7yxYP/Al1g/qqKtsRhD+0JlXB8Jhw +n+odyHhvj3hWUjhQPSXz5yLAIZe7AFWuqlK6MpOdgJ65VlbInLMOyu79KgucqLh +n2PoIGYrXHsKwtYa0E9xVe5wMG3SJjyP8KrlJo9KchNS7Nc8PGJMkyDYIY86GpO yhVduRvEAGdsB4dWwW1Du7WDM8ETdyHChwAH2gPNxT8Rx+V00uTCfc/Q+2MFXH8I arxCspRmu/vRKvgxZUbvSlT/4ZJKS+7uam20QoI058zPBjGNaeClBJpxwEQ06PE0 vb/HSwDmttaG1I+wBM9IymlKR1s9Y3M2WEQnCO3P4qKw/2s5ivG17yogTJIWK5ax m0q74laauPXZkilXqk9WZTJw1LGWyVTH9bycMLR0NcXwPUa9qTn7ZlXGHzMvcmk2 qhlU4HCuw25eN5kF2lRfqjcGG88S4toGek+vBrAKkxB5KAZsyd+Vs1HB2+uF2qHN crGiqxOn2tvM862KckJhm4NPrMUrruLm4A1s6/HRkVBPIWHa3MeQ0FArLw4aQOWc NWbUnklYQw/Es9zfVW046fb8Ip6lutbGdylC16AkVzTHxEqtkhE+sXGn0KeBsXIT i1GwpSxkTJC7BnXMHAdPC/BD+YaJ6R2Jx0AdR2pIRr+3a1RVAlJJ2b/cdXvRrrXa GRqMKNfpYkKScQ1AEcn0 =U3/x -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: From user on Facebook, saying BestBuy is telling users OpenOffice has viruses
On 02/02/2015 02:17 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Marcus wrote: >> Am 02/02/2015 09:15 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: >>> >>> https://www.facebook.com/ApacheOO/posts/846449215413957 >>> >>> Not sure what we can do about this, or if it is widespread. I hope it >>> is not a general attitude against open source at BestBuy, the largest >>> nationwide electronics retailer in America. >>> >>> But I do wonder if they have a bad feeling regarding open source after >> >> >> in the article "they" was just a single user. Or should I say a sales clerk? >> > > A few years ago there was a report that sales clerks at this retailer > were being trained to tell customers to avoid open source: > > http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/09/07/best.buy.told.to.misrepresent.linux/ > > Regards, > > -Rob from this post -- "She was pushing tech support for $179.99, Microsoft office and other anti virus software." reasons: Best Buy is in the tech support business -- see: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Computers-Promotions/Geek-Squad-Tech-Support/pcmcat235500050002.c?id=pcmcat235500050002 They can't make money from well supported open source products. (Kudos to our support volunteers! ) The fact that an individual says OpenOffice is loaded with viruses IS a problem. Maybe a notr to BestBuy might be in order on this count. > > >> Either she has made a personal bad experience with OpenOffice because she >> downloaded the software from the wrong website, or heard it from someone >> else and now takes it over as her opinion or (what I believe) she is just an >> average seller with lousy arguments: bashing product A to sell product B, C >> ... ;-) >> >>> being sued by the SFLC over GPL violations a few years ago: >>> >>> >>> http://www.informationweek.com/software/operating-systems/open-source-group-sues-consumer-electronics-companies/d/d-id/1085572? >> >> >> Also in the law case the mistake was to sell a product with GPL-based open >> source software but *not* to put the source code with the product like it >> has to be to fulfill the conditions of the GPL license. >> >>> This is one reason I think it is important to have a page on our >>> website that explains that Apache OpenOffice has a permissive license >>> and does not have these same risks. >> >> >> Marcus >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > -- - MzK "An old horse for a long, hard road, a young pony for a quick ride." -- Texas Bix Bender - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: From user on Facebook, saying BestBuy is telling users OpenOffice has viruses
Am 02/02/2015 11:17 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Marcus wrote: Am 02/02/2015 09:15 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: https://www.facebook.com/ApacheOO/posts/846449215413957 Not sure what we can do about this, or if it is widespread. I hope it is not a general attitude against open source at BestBuy, the largest nationwide electronics retailer in America. But I do wonder if they have a bad feeling regarding open source after in the article "they" was just a single user. Or should I say a sales clerk? A few years ago there was a report that sales clerks at this retailer were being trained to tell customers to avoid open source: http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/09/07/best.buy.told.to.misrepresent.linux/ sure, they cannot make any revenue with Linux. But with Windows and its software stack. ;-) At the end, I think we cannot do anything in this case and hardly anything in general - except to fight against these talkings when we hear something similar at electronic retailers, in Internet forums, etc. Marcus Either she has made a personal bad experience with OpenOffice because she downloaded the software from the wrong website, or heard it from someone else and now takes it over as her opinion or (what I believe) she is just an average seller with lousy arguments: bashing product A to sell product B, C ... ;-) being sued by the SFLC over GPL violations a few years ago: http://www.informationweek.com/software/operating-systems/open-source-group-sues-consumer-electronics-companies/d/d-id/1085572? Also in the law case the mistake was to sell a product with GPL-based open source software but *not* to put the source code with the product like it has to be to fulfill the conditions of the GPL license. This is one reason I think it is important to have a page on our website that explains that Apache OpenOffice has a permissive license and does not have these same risks. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: From user on Facebook, saying BestBuy is telling users OpenOffice has viruses
On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Marcus wrote: > Am 02/02/2015 09:15 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: >> >> https://www.facebook.com/ApacheOO/posts/846449215413957 >> >> Not sure what we can do about this, or if it is widespread. I hope it >> is not a general attitude against open source at BestBuy, the largest >> nationwide electronics retailer in America. >> >> But I do wonder if they have a bad feeling regarding open source after > > > in the article "they" was just a single user. Or should I say a sales clerk? > A few years ago there was a report that sales clerks at this retailer were being trained to tell customers to avoid open source: http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/09/07/best.buy.told.to.misrepresent.linux/ Regards, -Rob > Either she has made a personal bad experience with OpenOffice because she > downloaded the software from the wrong website, or heard it from someone > else and now takes it over as her opinion or (what I believe) she is just an > average seller with lousy arguments: bashing product A to sell product B, C > ... ;-) > >> being sued by the SFLC over GPL violations a few years ago: >> >> >> http://www.informationweek.com/software/operating-systems/open-source-group-sues-consumer-electronics-companies/d/d-id/1085572? > > > Also in the law case the mistake was to sell a product with GPL-based open > source software but *not* to put the source code with the product like it > has to be to fulfill the conditions of the GPL license. > >> This is one reason I think it is important to have a page on our >> website that explains that Apache OpenOffice has a permissive license >> and does not have these same risks. > > > Marcus > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: From user on Facebook, saying BestBuy is telling users OpenOffice has viruses
Am 02/02/2015 09:15 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: https://www.facebook.com/ApacheOO/posts/846449215413957 Not sure what we can do about this, or if it is widespread. I hope it is not a general attitude against open source at BestBuy, the largest nationwide electronics retailer in America. But I do wonder if they have a bad feeling regarding open source after in the article "they" was just a single user. Or should I say a sales clerk? Either she has made a personal bad experience with OpenOffice because she downloaded the software from the wrong website, or heard it from someone else and now takes it over as her opinion or (what I believe) she is just an average seller with lousy arguments: bashing product A to sell product B, C ... ;-) being sued by the SFLC over GPL violations a few years ago: http://www.informationweek.com/software/operating-systems/open-source-group-sues-consumer-electronics-companies/d/d-id/1085572? Also in the law case the mistake was to sell a product with GPL-based open source software but *not* to put the source code with the product like it has to be to fulfill the conditions of the GPL license. This is one reason I think it is important to have a page on our website that explains that Apache OpenOffice has a permissive license and does not have these same risks. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
From user on Facebook, saying BestBuy is telling users OpenOffice has viruses
https://www.facebook.com/ApacheOO/posts/846449215413957 Not sure what we can do about this, or if it is widespread. I hope it is not a general attitude against open source at BestBuy, the largest nationwide electronics retailer in America. But I do wonder if they have a bad feeling regarding open source after being sued by the SFLC over GPL violations a few years ago: http://www.informationweek.com/software/operating-systems/open-source-group-sues-consumer-electronics-companies/d/d-id/1085572? This is one reason I think it is important to have a page on our website that explains that Apache OpenOffice has a permissive license and does not have these same risks. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
