Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2014-01-13 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 11/12/2013 Jörg Schmidt wrote: The members of the German community would like to approach you with our wish to install a second mailing list (dev...@openoffice.apache.org) moderated by Jörg, Raphael und Michael (Stehmann). List is now ready. See

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-15 Thread Jörg Schmidt
From: Marcus (OOo) [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] Ok, that's a point. but it is a real problem? The problem that it may sounds too similar. When you look for the right ML it could happen that the -de is overlooked and then you get German mails into the international ML. Or vice

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-15 Thread Jörg Schmidt
From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] You're absolutely right and I hope it will be able to change that in the future, because it is a big problem for a software aimed at end users. I was trying to make a slightly different observation. We have the ASF which is a foundation.

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-15 Thread jan i
On 15 December 2013 11:39, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote: From: Marcus (OOo) [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] Ok, that's a point. but it is a real problem? The problem that it may sounds too similar. When you look for the right ML it could happen that the -de is overlooked

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-15 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 12/15/2013 11:39 AM, schrieb Jörg Schmidt: From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] You're absolutely right and I hope it will be able to change that in the future, because it is a big problem for a software aimed at end users. I was trying to make a slightly different observation.

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-15 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 12/15/2013 11:39 AM, schrieb Jörg Schmidt: From: Marcus (OOo) [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] Ok, that's a point. but it is a real problem? The problem that it may sounds too similar. When you look for the right ML it could happen that the -de is overlooked and then you get German mails

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-15 Thread Jörg Schmidt
From: Marcus (OOo) [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] Just make clear (e.g., here: http://openoffice.apache.org/native-lang.html or ) that it is used to coordinate the work in German-speaking countries, then it should be fine. Yes, true, but how do we do that? Describe what the

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-15 Thread Jörg Schmidt
From: Marcus (OOo) [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] local-de-team@ or de-team@ (which contains _your_ word team) Better? team is really better and to put de at first, mix-ups are eleminated. +1 Fine. By de-team @ I agree, and maybe that's for Rob OK, (for he had the

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-15 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Jörg Schmidt wrote: By de-team @ I agree, and maybe that's for Rob OK, (for he had the word team is suggested), then there would currently consensus. I think there was a misunderstanding here. A mailing list for discussions in German must be named XYZ-de for a certain value of XYZ. dev-de,

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-15 Thread Jörg Schmidt
From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 1:32 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working Jörg Schmidt wrote: By de-team @ I agree, and maybe that's for Rob OK, (for he had

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 5:39 AM, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote: From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] You're absolutely right and I hope it will be able to change that in the future, because it is a big problem for a software aimed at end users. I was trying to make a

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-15 Thread Jörg Schmidt
From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] _if_ the de disturbs, then we must also rename the users-de, _if_ users-de is OK, so is also dev-de OK ... this is the point. I've never said anything against the de part. I wanted to insinuate anything, but I had no other explanation,

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-14 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 12/13/2013 03:43 AM, schrieb Jörg Schmidt: From: Marcus (OOo) [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] In concept, I don't have objections to this new list, but wish it could be named something other than dev-de so it doesn't get confused with dev@openoffice.apache.org. But...I don't have any

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-14 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote: From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] *In OOo it was possible for many years, are members of AOO project less wise, to distinguish it?* But I've a suggestion. ;-) What about to name the new ML like what

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-13 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote: From: Marcus (OOo) [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] In concept, I don't have objections to this new list, but wish it could be named something other than dev-de so it doesn't get confused with

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-13 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Rob Weir wrote: There is no German project. There is the AOO project, and there is a subset of people interested in German language conferences, the German portion of the website, etc. The way to limit the confusion is to give a clear description on the webpage where we list the native

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-12 Thread Jörg Schmidt
From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 2:10 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working jan i wrote: +1 from me, my only concern is how to make sure important

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-12 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.dewrote: From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 2:10 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working jan

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-12 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 12/12/2013 11:08 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Jörg Schmidtjoe...@j-m-schmidt.dewrote: From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 2:10 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: German community needs a second mailing

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-12 Thread Jörg Schmidt
From: Marcus (OOo) [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] In concept, I don't have objections to this new list, but wish it could be named something other than dev-de so it doesn't get confused with dev@openoffice.apache.org. But...I don't have any suggestions. hm yes, that's a good point.

German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-11 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello, The members of the German community would like to approach you with our wish to install a second mailing list (dev...@openoffice.apache.org) moderated by Jörg, Raphael und Michael (Stehmann). The purpose of this separate list would be to distinguish general user questions from specific

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-11 Thread RA Stehmann
+1 It's not only Open Rhein Ruhr, but also FOSDEM (Brussels), Chemnitzer Linuxtage (Chemnitz, Saxonia), FrOSCon (St.Augustin - near Bonn) and T-Dose (Eindhoven) we participate. Regards Michael (Stehmann) On 11.12.2013 09:22, Jörg Schmidt wrote: Hello, The members of the German community

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-11 Thread Arthur Buijs
+1 From the Netherlands. Regards, Arthur RA Stehmann schreef op 11-12-2013 9:44: +1 It's not only Open Rhein Ruhr, but also FOSDEM (Brussels), Chemnitzer Linuxtage (Chemnitz, Saxonia), FrOSCon (St.Augustin - near Bonn) and T-Dose (Eindhoven) we participate. Regards Michael (Stehmann)

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-11 Thread jan i
+1 from me, my only concern is how to make sure important information is not kept solely on dev-de (important may also be hints about how to compile etc). I see a heavy burden on the moderators to ensure that this happens. rgds jan I. On 11 December 2013 10:32, Arthur Buijs art...@artietee.nl

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-11 Thread Jörg Schmidt
+1 from me, my only concern is how to make sure important information is not kept solely on dev-de (important may also be hints about how to compile etc). I see a heavy burden on the moderators to ensure that this happens. I do not understand the problem. By de-community is nothing

Re: German community needs a second mailing list for effective working

2013-12-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti
jan i wrote: +1 from me, my only concern is how to make sure important information is not kept solely on dev-de (important may also be hints about how to compile etc). I see a heavy burden on the moderators to ensure that this happens. It depends on the focus, but from Joerg's initial