Re: Impress problem on linux?

2017-02-04 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sat, 4 Feb 2017 17:11:40 -0300
Ariel Constenla-Haile  wrote:

> On 03/02/17 19:47, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> >> On Linux, OpenOffice uses gstreamer (on Fedora there are tow packages
> >> for the older gstreamer API and the newer gstreamer1 API), besides
> >> installing gstreamer you need to install the plugins, they may have
> >> names like gstreamer-plugins-bad, gstreamer-plugins-bad-free,
> >> gstreamer-plugins-ugly, etc.
> 
> [...]
> 
> > I'm fairly sure I have these installed; it is too late in my day for 
> > detailed work, so I'll check tomorrow that they are definitely installed.
> 
> AFAIK Ubuntu comes with gstreamer1.0 by default, you need to install
> gstreamer0.10 and its plugins.
> 
> 
> Regards
> -- 
> Ariel Constenla-Haile
> La Plata, Argentina
> 

Thank you, Ariel.  When your email arrived I had just come to the same 
conclusion and was in process of installing 0.10.  However, my findings are not 
encouraging.  According to the Gstreamer site, 0.10 and 1.0 should co-exist.  
In my experiments they didn't - perhaps the order of installation might be 
important.  I then removed 1.0 and it took with it many of the utilities of 
Xubuntu 16.04; even having carried out a fresh installation of 0.10 there were 
still problems handling .avi and .mpg files (I only experimented with a known 
good .avi and .mpg file).  

I've spent long enough fiddling at this - for the few presentations I have 
using multimedia (always video in my case), I'll manage with the hyperlink to 
the system video player or VLC.

As 0.10 is not maintained since 2012, and modern *ubuntu distros are using 1.0, 
(I have no knowledge of the situation in other linux distros) perhaps it is 
time to consider migration to 1.0 for a future release of AOO.  For 
information: on the gstreamer site is a note on migrating 0,1 to 1.0.

Thank you for your assistance.


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Re: Impress problem on linux?

2017-02-04 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On 03/02/17 19:47, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
>> On Linux, OpenOffice uses gstreamer (on Fedora there are tow packages
>> for the older gstreamer API and the newer gstreamer1 API), besides
>> installing gstreamer you need to install the plugins, they may have
>> names like gstreamer-plugins-bad, gstreamer-plugins-bad-free,
>> gstreamer-plugins-ugly, etc.

[...]

> I'm fairly sure I have these installed; it is too late in my day for detailed 
> work, so I'll check tomorrow that they are definitely installed.

AFAIK Ubuntu comes with gstreamer1.0 by default, you need to install
gstreamer0.10 and its plugins.


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina



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Re: Impress problem on linux?

2017-02-03 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Fri, 3 Feb 2017 19:39:07 -0300
Ariel Constenla-Haile  wrote:

> Hi Rory,
> 
> On 03/02/17 16:56, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> > Before I raise an issue on Bugzilla, I would like confirmation of the 
> > following problem:
> > 
> > Using AOO 4.1.3 running on Xubuntu 16.04.1 I am not able to get Impress to 
> > play embedded videos.  Any attempt to embed an .avi or an .mpg file is 
> > blocked by "The format of the selected file is not supported" message and 
> > the file will not insert on the slide.  The .avi and .mpg files play 
> > perfectly using the system video player (Parole) or VLC.  From memory this 
> > problem occurred with AOO 4.0.0 - I have older presentations prepared in 
> > 2008 in which these embeddings worked correctly, but such presentations do 
> > not play in current AOO 4.1.3.  I have tried a number of different .avi and 
> > .mpg files, all to no avail within Impress.
> > 
> > I have checked using the same multimedia files on AOO 4,1.3 running on 
> > Windows XP - they work correctly 
> > 
> > My workaround is to insert a hyperlink to the .avi/.mpg files, which calls 
> > the system video player.  This is a bit clunky, but at least the videos get 
> > shown.
> > 
> > Would other users please confirm if this problem shows up on other linux 
> > versions (please indicate linux distro and version) so that I can post as 
> > detailed an issue as possible on Bugzilla.
> > 
> 
> On Linux, OpenOffice uses gstreamer (on Fedora there are tow packages
> for the older gstreamer API and the newer gstreamer1 API), besides
> installing gstreamer you need to install the plugins, they may have
> names like gstreamer-plugins-bad, gstreamer-plugins-bad-free,
> gstreamer-plugins-ugly, etc.
> 
> 
> Regards
> -- 
> Ariel Constenla-Haile
> La Plata, Argentina
> 

I'm fairly sure I have these installed; it is too late in my day for detailed 
work, so I'll check tomorrow that they are definitely installed.


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Re: Impress problem on linux?

2017-02-03 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi Rory,

On 03/02/17 16:56, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> Before I raise an issue on Bugzilla, I would like confirmation of the 
> following problem:
> 
> Using AOO 4.1.3 running on Xubuntu 16.04.1 I am not able to get Impress to 
> play embedded videos.  Any attempt to embed an .avi or an .mpg file is 
> blocked by "The format of the selected file is not supported" message and the 
> file will not insert on the slide.  The .avi and .mpg files play perfectly 
> using the system video player (Parole) or VLC.  From memory this problem 
> occurred with AOO 4.0.0 - I have older presentations prepared in 2008 in 
> which these embeddings worked correctly, but such presentations do not play 
> in current AOO 4.1.3.  I have tried a number of different .avi and .mpg 
> files, all to no avail within Impress.
> 
> I have checked using the same multimedia files on AOO 4,1.3 running on 
> Windows XP - they work correctly 
> 
> My workaround is to insert a hyperlink to the .avi/.mpg files, which calls 
> the system video player.  This is a bit clunky, but at least the videos get 
> shown.
> 
> Would other users please confirm if this problem shows up on other linux 
> versions (please indicate linux distro and version) so that I can post as 
> detailed an issue as possible on Bugzilla.
> 

On Linux, OpenOffice uses gstreamer (on Fedora there are tow packages
for the older gstreamer API and the newer gstreamer1 API), besides
installing gstreamer you need to install the plugins, they may have
names like gstreamer-plugins-bad, gstreamer-plugins-bad-free,
gstreamer-plugins-ugly, etc.


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina



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Re: Impress problem on linux?

2017-02-03 Thread Marcus

Am 03.02.2017 um 20:56 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:

Before I raise an issue on Bugzilla, I would like confirmation of the following 
problem:

Using AOO 4.1.3 running on Xubuntu 16.04.1 I am not able to get Impress to play embedded 
videos.  Any attempt to embed an .avi or an .mpg file is blocked by "The format of 
the selected file is not supported" message and the file will not insert on the 
slide.  The .avi and .mpg files play perfectly using the system video player (Parole) or 
VLC.  From memory this problem occurred with AOO 4.0.0 - I have older presentations 
prepared in 2008 in which these embeddings worked correctly, but such presentations do 
not play in current AOO 4.1.3.  I have tried a number of different .avi and .mpg files, 
all to no avail within Impress.

I have checked using the same multimedia files on AOO 4,1.3 running on Windows 
XP - they work correctly

My workaround is to insert a hyperlink to the .avi/.mpg files, which calls the 
system video player.  This is a bit clunky, but at least the videos get shown.

Would other users please confirm if this problem shows up on other linux 
versions (please indicate linux distro and version) so that I can post as 
detailed an issue as possible on Bugzilla.


https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=30776

IMHO it's the old Java Media Framework issue. In former Sun times the 
JMF [1] was choosen for Linux-based OS to manage multimedia files. Maybe 
it was decided to use a Java-based implementation instead of a 
Linux-native one like gstreamer. But at the end I don't know why. At the 
moment it is as it is.


I don't know if the JMF functions are still part of a current JRE. If 
not then we have a possible root cause that it is no longer working.


PS:
If you want to know, I'm working on Fedora 25 and AOO 4.1.3.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Media_Framework

Marcus


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Re: Impress problem on linux?

2017-02-03 Thread Hagar Delest

Hi,

Confirmed with AOO 4.1.3 on Xubuntu 16.10.
Tried with a .mpg.

Hagar


Le 03/02/2017 à 20:56, Rory O'Farrell a écrit :

Before I raise an issue on Bugzilla, I would like confirmation of the following 
problem:

Using AOO 4.1.3 running on Xubuntu 16.04.1 I am not able to get Impress to play embedded 
videos.  Any attempt to embed an .avi or an .mpg file is blocked by "The format of 
the selected file is not supported" message and the file will not insert on the 
slide.  The .avi and .mpg files play perfectly using the system video player (Parole) or 
VLC.  From memory this problem occurred with AOO 4.0.0 - I have older presentations 
prepared in 2008 in which these embeddings worked correctly, but such presentations do 
not play in current AOO 4.1.3.  I have tried a number of different .avi and .mpg files, 
all to no avail within Impress.

I have checked using the same multimedia files on AOO 4,1.3 running on Windows 
XP - they work correctly

My workaround is to insert a hyperlink to the .avi/.mpg files, which calls the 
system video player.  This is a bit clunky, but at least the videos get shown.

Would other users please confirm if this problem shows up on other linux 
versions (please indicate linux distro and version) so that I can post as 
detailed an issue as possible on Bugzilla.




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Impress problem on linux?

2017-02-03 Thread Rory O'Farrell
Before I raise an issue on Bugzilla, I would like confirmation of the following 
problem:

Using AOO 4.1.3 running on Xubuntu 16.04.1 I am not able to get Impress to play 
embedded videos.  Any attempt to embed an .avi or an .mpg file is blocked by 
"The format of the selected file is not supported" message and the file will 
not insert on the slide.  The .avi and .mpg files play perfectly using the 
system video player (Parole) or VLC.  From memory this problem occurred with 
AOO 4.0.0 - I have older presentations prepared in 2008 in which these 
embeddings worked correctly, but such presentations do not play in current AOO 
4.1.3.  I have tried a number of different .avi and .mpg files, all to no avail 
within Impress.

I have checked using the same multimedia files on AOO 4,1.3 running on Windows 
XP - they work correctly 

My workaround is to insert a hyperlink to the .avi/.mpg files, which calls the 
system video player.  This is a bit clunky, but at least the videos get shown.

Would other users please confirm if this problem shows up on other linux 
versions (please indicate linux distro and version) so that I can post as 
detailed an issue as possible on Bugzilla.

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