-----Original Message-----
From: Kay Schenk [mailto:kay.sch...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 16:33
To: OOo Apache
Subject: [DISCUSS] User support vs issues

We've noticed many more items filed as "issues" lately that fall into
the category of user support. In an effort to track down the origination
of this, it seems our Help Wanted page on the planning wiki might be a
contributing factor:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Help+Wanted

See item #2 under Easy.

Are there some suggestions for different wording for this? We certainly
DO want people to report things that don't work as advertised, but how
to differentiate issues from user support is the challenge.

<orcnote>
        It might be good to re-order that list so that the most likely 
        response for someone with a problem and is a novice around 
        trouble-shooting would get to the appropriate place first.  
        This may mean putting the forums at the top of the list.

        Also, offering an either-or dev@ versus users@ is probably not 
        helpful for folks who are not clear about the difference.

     A BIGGER PROBLEM: The "I need help with OpenOffice" link at
        < http://www.openoffice.org/> is not responsive to someone
     who clicks that link when they are in difficulty.  I think there
     needs to be quick differentiation among
         1. Having trouble with the software or installation
         2. Having trouble getting something to work
         3. Wanting to learn more
     Filing a bug report should probably be after looking on the
     Forums first.

     A related concern. Filing a bug report that is clear enough to
     have a reproducible demonstration of the problem takes a great
     deal of effort.  That usually means the reports need to be 
     curated and the user engaged.  When I see the number of ancient
     similar bug reports that are in the Bugzilla, I want to run
     screaming away as far as I can get.  And I like to think I am
     relatively patient.
</orcnote>

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