Re: [REPORT] PMC 2015-07 Private-List Activity through July

2015-08-29 Thread Marcus
In any case this is too much traffic on the private mailing list. I would understand Dennis' mail as a wake-up call how much it is currently and that there is an urgent need to turn down the number of mails. Marcus Am 08/28/2015 11:58 PM, schrieb Phillip Rhodes: So what, if anything,

Re: [REPORT] PMC 2015-07 Private-List Activity through July

2015-08-29 Thread Rich Bowen
I'd love to see a comparison with a half dozen other projects. On Aug 29, 2015 02:42, Marcus marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: In any case this is too much traffic on the private mailing list. I would understand Dennis' mail as a wake-up call how much it is currently and that there is an urgent

Re: [REPORT] PMC 2015-07 Private-List Activity through July

2015-08-29 Thread Phil Steitz
On 8/29/15 8:39 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: I'd love to see a comparison with a half dozen other projects. I would discourage any reasoning based on aggregate message counts. Every +1 on a PMC member VOTE counts as a message, for example. The thing to look carefully at is what is being discussed

Re: [REPORT] PMC 2015-07 Private-List Activity through July

2015-08-29 Thread Rich Bowen
On Aug 29, 2015 12:21, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/29/15 8:39 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: I'd love to see a comparison with a half dozen other projects. I would discourage any reasoning based on aggregate message counts. Every +1 on a PMC member VOTE counts as a message, for

RE: [REPORT] PMC 2015-07 Private-List Activity through July

2015-08-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
it just to satisfy themselves that their activity is as confined as it is thought to be. -Original Message- From: Phil Steitz [mailto:phil.ste...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 09:21 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: [REPORT] PMC 2015-07 Private-List Activity through

Re: [REPORT] PMC 2015-07 Private-List Activity through July

2015-08-29 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Separating out [VOTE] and maybe even [DISCUSS] threads related to [VOTE]s and/or lazy consensus should be possible. I will look into that as a refinement in future reports. I would save you some hours and rely on easy indicators and on a clear goal: full

Re: [REPORT] PMC 2015-07 Private-List Activity through July

2015-08-29 Thread Dave Fisher
We could reduce private traffic if we discussed the policy for trademarks in public. The community can help write a clear policy statement with real and fictional examples. This would serve the community by reducing private inquiries to unusual cases not previously considered or unclearly

RE: [REPORT] PMC 2015-07 Private-List Activity through July

2015-08-29 Thread Rich Bowen
On Aug 29, 2015 14:02, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: Rich, I have no means to produce comparisons with other projects and it is out of scope for me here. Maybe other projects might undertake it just to satisfy themselves that their activity is as confined as it is thought to

RE: [REPORT] PMC 2015-07 Private-List Activity through July

2015-08-28 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
With a correction already, Of all the messages sent, 84.3% are by members of the PMC, 13.4% are by other ASF participants, and 2.3% are by others. [The extra decimals are simply to achieve a confirmable total of 100%, precision not so much.] -Original Message- From: Dennis

Re: [REPORT] PMC 2015-07 Private-List Activity through July

2015-08-28 Thread Phillip Rhodes
So what, if anything, should we take away from this? My (completely superficial, naive and uninformed) feeling is that that is a LOT of traffic on the private list. But maybe not. Anyway, is the idea here that there should be less traffic on that list? More? The same? I have to admit, I've

RE: [REPORT] PMC 2015-07 Private-List Activity through July

2015-08-28 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
question and welcome back, Phil. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Phillip Rhodes [mailto:motley.crue@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 14:59 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: [REPORT] PMC 2015-07 Private-List Activity through July So what, if anything, should we take