Re: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported platform?

2017-01-27 Thread Matthias Seidel
Am 27.01.2017 um 21:18 schrieb toki: > On 01/27/2017 05:58 PM, Marcus wrote: > >> For the source code Readme it's for sure enough. However, I don't know if it >> should be just for the this Readme. > Maybe the main help page (http://www.openoffice.org/support/index.html) > can have a link saying "

Re: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported platform?

2017-01-27 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Some misc. comments: In reply to Peter Kovacs; Would it be more wise to go for BSD as OS instead of one distribution FreeBSD? Or are BSD variants incompatible to each other? BSD variants are certainly incompatible with each other as the result of about 25 years of divergence. AFAICT, the onl

Re: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported platform?

2017-01-27 Thread Matthias Seidel
Am 27.01.2017 um 21:22 schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: > >> -Original Message- >> From: Matthias Seidel [mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de] >> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 11:46 >> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org >> Subject: Re: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a

Re: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported platform?

2017-01-27 Thread Marcus
Am 27.01.2017 um 20:46 schrieb Matthias Seidel: Am 27.01.2017 um 20:39 schrieb Marcus: Am 27.01.2017 um 20:23 schrieb Peter Kovacs: On 27.01.2017 20:17, Marcus wrote: And it is crucial that the hashes and signature files *not* be mirrored. Having them only available at dist.apache.org is the

RE: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported platform?

2017-01-27 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Matthias Seidel [mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de] > Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 11:46 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported platform? > > Am 27.01.2017 um 20:39 schrieb Marcus: &g

Re: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported platform?

2017-01-27 Thread Peter Kovacs
On 27.01.2017 20:39, Marcus wrote: Am 27.01.2017 um 20:23 schrieb Peter Kovacs: On 27.01.2017 20:17, Marcus wrote: And it is crucial that the hashes and signature files *not* be mirrored. Having them only available at dist.apache.org is the secure way to detect that the mirror-downloaded bin

Re: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported platform?

2017-01-27 Thread Peter Kovacs
On 27.01.2017 20:39, Marcus wrote: Am 27.01.2017 um 20:23 schrieb Peter Kovacs: On 27.01.2017 20:17, Marcus wrote: And it is crucial that the hashes and signature files *not* be mirrored. Having them only available at dist.apache.org is the secure way to detect that the mirror-downloaded bin

Re: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported platform?

2017-01-27 Thread Matthias Seidel
Am 27.01.2017 um 20:39 schrieb Marcus: > Am 27.01.2017 um 20:23 schrieb Peter Kovacs: >> On 27.01.2017 20:17, Marcus wrote: >>> And it is crucial that the hashes and signature files *not* be >>> mirrored. Having them only available at dist.apache.org is the secure >>> way to detect that the mirror

Re: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported platform?

2017-01-27 Thread Marcus
Am 27.01.2017 um 20:23 schrieb Peter Kovacs: On 27.01.2017 20:17, Marcus wrote: And it is crucial that the hashes and signature files *not* be mirrored. Having them only available at dist.apache.org is the secure way to detect that the mirror-downloaded binary is authentic and unaltered. right

Re: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported platform?

2017-01-27 Thread Peter Kovacs
On 27.01.2017 20:17, Marcus wrote: And it is crucial that the hashes and signature files *not* be mirrored. Having them only available at dist.apache.org is the secure way to detect that the mirror-downloaded binary is authentic and unaltered. right, we as OpenOffice project we should make s

Re: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported platform?

2017-01-27 Thread Marcus
Am 27.01.2017 um 20:04 schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: -Original Message- From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 09:55 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported platform? Am 27.01.2017 um 18:50 schrieb Dennis

RE: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported platform?

2017-01-27 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 09:55 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported platform? > > Am 27.01.2017 um 18:50 schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: >

Re: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported platform?

2017-01-27 Thread Marcus
Am 27.01.2017 um 12:45 schrieb toki: On 01/27/2017 07:41 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: I don't think we need complex categories here (especially because with them a maintenance burden would come). In that source code README, "supported" probably means "a platform for which we strive at producing b

Re: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported platform?

2017-01-27 Thread Marcus
Am 27.01.2017 um 18:50 schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: -Original Message- From: Rory O'Farrell [mailto:ofarr...@iol.ie] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 07:59 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported platform? On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 07:49:51

RE: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported platform?

2017-01-27 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Rory O'Farrell [mailto:ofarr...@iol.ie] > Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 07:59 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported platform? > > On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 07:49:51 -0800 >

Re: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported platform?

2017-01-27 Thread Rory O'Farrell
files on the AOO distribution site, which counterfeit distributions would not have? Rory > > > -Original Message- > > From: toki [mailto:toki.kant...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 03:46 > > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > > Subject: Re: [lazy consensus

RE: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported platform?

2017-01-27 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
in a distributed binary is no help because counterfeit distributions do that too. > -Original Message- > From: toki [mailto:toki.kant...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 03:46 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported pla

Re: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported platform?

2017-01-27 Thread Peter Kovacs
I think in future independent download source can become less accepted. We should think of officially accept certain distribution routes. For the definition of support I would go for what the community provides. If we have people interested in FreeBSD then it's fine for me to call it supported. If

Re: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported platform?

2017-01-26 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 26/01/2017 Marcus wrote: before finding categories and its names, we need to make the several attributes visible that describe "supported" I don't think we need complex categories here (especially because with them a maintenance burden would come). In that source code README, "supported" p

Re: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported platform?

2017-01-26 Thread Marcus
Am 25.01.2017 um 09:28 schrieb Dr. Michael Stehmann: Am 24.01.2017 um 23:02 schrieb Andrea Pescetti: I see some risk of confusion here. I mean, there is surely a set of "privileged" platforms that are those for which we build and make available releases from our download page: Windows, MacOS X,

Re: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported platform?

2017-01-25 Thread Dr. Michael Stehmann
Am 24.01.2017 um 23:02 schrieb Andrea Pescetti: > > I see some risk of confusion here. I mean, there is surely a set of > "privileged" platforms that are those for which we build and make > available releases from our download page: Windows, MacOS X, and Linux > variants. Then there is a set of "

Re: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported platform?

2017-01-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 01/24/17 , Marcus wrote: Am 24.01.2017 um 22:47 schrieb Pedro Giffuni: Our README states that currently supported platforms include: Windows, MacOS X, Linux variants and OS/2. I would like to add FreeBSD to the list. I have no idea if such status requires some formal procedure so I will ask

Re: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported platform?

2017-01-24 Thread Marcus
Am 24.01.2017 um 22:47 schrieb Pedro Giffuni: Our README states that currently supported platforms include: Windows, MacOS X, Linux variants and OS/2. I would like to add FreeBSD to the list. I have no idea if such status requires some formal procedure so I will ask here: I don't know every ASF

Re: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported platform?

2017-01-24 Thread Matthias Seidel
If I look at https://openoffice.apache.org/ (at the end of the page) FreeBSD is mentioned, OS/2 is not. So I think it is just a matter of updating and synchronizing the two pages... Regards, Matthias Am 24.01.2017 um 23:02 schrieb Andrea Pescetti: > Pedro Giffuni wrote: >> Our README states tha

Re: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported platform?

2017-01-24 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Pedro Giffuni wrote: Our README states that currently supported platforms include: Windows, MacOS X, Linux variants and OS/2. I would like to add FreeBSD to the list. I have no idea if such status requires some formal procedure I don't think there is a formal procedure. OS/2 and FreeBSD should