Re: Support for maven
Am 26.12.22 um 19:37 schrieb Damjan Jovanovic: On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 9:10 PM Jim Jagielski wrote: There are some java apps that no longer support ant and instead rely on maven. Last I checked, I don't think we support that, do we? But why are we compiling Java projects? We compile C/C++ projects because (1) upstream often doesn't provide binaries, and/or (2) we need to patch the source. For Java projects, (1) is almost universally false, and (2) is often false. Why can't we just download and use the upstream .jar files in those cases, instead of needing Maven to build the source ourselves? I think we should not build any dependencies if we rebuild AOO. If we create a release build then we should have stashed the dependencies. In case of Java files this is easy because we can use JAR files as you suggested. For C++ dependencies we should build a repository with maven like tools like conan [1] Maybe even build an own Maven Repository for all if this is possible. However, We should also look into the software Architecture that we can handle different Versions of One dependency, or can switch to concurrent libraries without much maintenance work. Going more in the direction of Clean Code Architecture. All the best Peter [1] https://conan.io/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Support for maven
On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 9:10 PM Jim Jagielski wrote: > There are some java apps that no longer support ant and > instead rely on maven. Last I checked, I don't think we > support that, do we? > > > But why are we compiling Java projects? We compile C/C++ projects because (1) upstream often doesn't provide binaries, and/or (2) we need to patch the source. For Java projects, (1) is almost universally false, and (2) is often false. Why can't we just download and use the upstream .jar files in those cases, instead of needing Maven to build the source ourselves? Regards Damjan
Re: Support for maven
The later versions of beanshell, starting w/ 3.x will be maven only, I think > On Dec 2, 2022, at 5:05 PM, Carl Marcum wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > On 12/2/22 13:24, Jim Jagielski wrote: >> There are some java apps that no longer support ant and >> instead rely on maven. Last I checked, I don't think we >> support that, do we? >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> > > Not sure what you mean by they no longer support Ant. > Do you mean they are now built with Maven instead of Ant? > > I'm not aware of anything Java in AOO itself that is being built with Maven. > Only Ant or Make. > > That also goes for other things like the NetBeans plugins for Addons, Addins, > client apps, etc. > There are thousands of lines of Ant in those. > > Also the automated test suites are Ant built. > > I tend to use Gradle in the AOO extension templates (replaces NetBeans) due > to it's excellent support for including Ant tasks and I prefer the Groovy DSL > to XML build files. > And I was able to reuse those thousands of lines of Ant instead of porting it > to Maven. > > That being said most things could probably be ported to Maven (or Gradle) if > we decided to. > > Best regards, > Carl > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Support for maven
Hi Jim, On 12/2/22 13:24, Jim Jagielski wrote: There are some java apps that no longer support ant and instead rely on maven. Last I checked, I don't think we support that, do we? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org Not sure what you mean by they no longer support Ant. Do you mean they are now built with Maven instead of Ant? I'm not aware of anything Java in AOO itself that is being built with Maven. Only Ant or Make. That also goes for other things like the NetBeans plugins for Addons, Addins, client apps, etc. There are thousands of lines of Ant in those. Also the automated test suites are Ant built. I tend to use Gradle in the AOO extension templates (replaces NetBeans) due to it's excellent support for including Ant tasks and I prefer the Groovy DSL to XML build files. And I was able to reuse those thousands of lines of Ant instead of porting it to Maven. That being said most things could probably be ported to Maven (or Gradle) if we decided to. Best regards, Carl - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Support for maven
There are some java apps that no longer support ant and instead rely on maven. Last I checked, I don't think we support that, do we? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
