Re: drop ressources (stlport, maybe beanshell)
yes kind of. I have seeb BeanUtil and maybe BSF (I am not sure) and I thought those were successor with the project. But it quickly turned out it has been a misunderstanding on my side. BSF supplies a nice vierity of Scripting Languages. Maybe it is good to keep it in mind for later. As an option, if wwe want to do something fancy. New Feature stuff you know. Am 01.05.20 um 20:04 schrieb Dave Fisher: Were you looking for Apache Commons BSF? http://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-bsf/ On Apr 24, 2020, at 6:50 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote: Hello all, I would like to remove stlport from code. We already build without it, and no one is using it. We have a Repository system for managing old code. We do not need to carry stuff we do not use. Another potential candidate to get Rid of is beanshell. I am looking into it, the project moved to Apache Commons. I hope that it is still there under a different name (beanUtil?) Cleaning out stuff is important. Any Objections? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: drop ressources (stlport, maybe beanshell)
Were you looking for Apache Commons BSF? http://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-bsf/ > On Apr 24, 2020, at 6:50 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote: > > Hello all, > > > I would like to remove stlport from code. We already build without it, and no > one is using it. We have a Repository system for managing old code. We do not > need to carry stuff we do not use. > > Another potential candidate to get Rid of is beanshell. I am looking into it, > the project moved to Apache Commons. I hope that it is still there under a > different name (beanUtil?) > > Cleaning out stuff is important. > > Any Objections? > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: drop ressources (stlport, maybe beanshell)
I just wanted to say in a complicated way that I told what I knew. And I don't think it is worth to do a lot of research to convince others. Am 30.04.20 um 00:41 schrieb Marcus: Am 29.04.20 um 12:13 schrieb Peter Kovacs: Please understand that I assume a per default some resistance towards change. I see it as feature not as failure, we are a bit conservative for a reason. But as a reaction I save my time a bit, where I think it is a waste. I don't understand what you want to tell me here as this is out of context. So which Information do you exactly need? Actually I cannot really help here as I'm not a developer. However I would think that it is helping more to tell some more background of the potential removal candidate. Thats all. ;-) Thanks Marcus Am 29.04.20 um 00:56 schrieb Marcus: Am 25.04.20 um 03:50 schrieb Peter Kovacs: I would like to remove stlport from code. We already build without it, and no one is using it. We have a Repository system for managing old code. We do not need to carry stuff we do not use. Another potential candidate to get Rid of is beanshell. I am looking into it, the project moved to Apache Commons. I hope that it is still there under a different name (beanUtil?) Cleaning out stuff is important. right. Howeverr, when you write for which the ressources are used it would be easier to judge if it can be really dropped or not. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: drop ressources (stlport, maybe beanshell)
Am 29.04.20 um 12:13 schrieb Peter Kovacs: Please understand that I assume a per default some resistance towards change. I see it as feature not as failure, we are a bit conservative for a reason. But as a reaction I save my time a bit, where I think it is a waste. I don't understand what you want to tell me here as this is out of context. So which Information do you exactly need? Actually I cannot really help here as I'm not a developer. However I would think that it is helping more to tell some more background of the potential removal candidate. Thats all. ;-) Thanks Marcus Am 29.04.20 um 00:56 schrieb Marcus: Am 25.04.20 um 03:50 schrieb Peter Kovacs: I would like to remove stlport from code. We already build without it, and no one is using it. We have a Repository system for managing old code. We do not need to carry stuff we do not use. Another potential candidate to get Rid of is beanshell. I am looking into it, the project moved to Apache Commons. I hope that it is still there under a different name (beanUtil?) Cleaning out stuff is important. right. Howeverr, when you write for which the ressources are used it would be easier to judge if it can be really dropped or not. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: drop ressources (stlport, maybe beanshell)
Hi Markus, Please understand that I assume a per default some resistance towards change. I see it as feature not as failure, we are a bit conservative for a reason. But as a reaction I save my time a bit, where I think it is a waste. So which Information do you exactly need? My Current status: STLPort is still considered -> I see no counter arguments to wards removal from code, it will stay in the repository. I am fine with a tag if that helps. I want to write a proposal in may. BEANSHELL is canceled, because my understand that it moved into Apache Common is wrong. STAX is still considered, because it is now part of a JDK. Therefor the work includes to ensure that all Calls point to the JDK delivered Stax and still work. Hope fully May. SAXON is undecided on my end. I overlooked the dependency to filter (a error in my dependency overview). I am not sure if I really want to migrate to libXML2, which needs to be done in order to make Saxon obsolete. On the other hand we should investigate to update Saxon to version 10. So I am not sure which way is better. Especially since I would like to move away from libXML2 in long term. I am in favor of Apache Xerxes, which is a more natural partner for us. And I have an Idea how filter should evolve. But all this are other stories. All the Best Peter Am 29.04.20 um 00:56 schrieb Marcus: Am 25.04.20 um 03:50 schrieb Peter Kovacs: I would like to remove stlport from code. We already build without it, and no one is using it. We have a Repository system for managing old code. We do not need to carry stuff we do not use. Another potential candidate to get Rid of is beanshell. I am looking into it, the project moved to Apache Commons. I hope that it is still there under a different name (beanUtil?) Cleaning out stuff is important. right. Howeverr, when you write for which the ressources are used it would be easier to judge if it can be really dropped or not. Thanks Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: drop ressources (stlport, maybe beanshell)
Am 25.04.20 um 03:50 schrieb Peter Kovacs: I would like to remove stlport from code. We already build without it, and no one is using it. We have a Repository system for managing old code. We do not need to carry stuff we do not use. Another potential candidate to get Rid of is beanshell. I am looking into it, the project moved to Apache Commons. I hope that it is still there under a different name (beanUtil?) Cleaning out stuff is important. right. Howeverr, when you write for which the ressources are used it would be easier to judge if it can be really dropped or not. Thanks Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: drop ressources (stlport, maybe beanshell)
I have seen you on the repository of beanshell. I stared the project now and fully watching it. It is all I can do for now. But if there is something I send in patches. So far no objections for STLPORT removal. -> STLPORT is still on. Beanshell is still an own Project -> BEANSHELL is off. I open up a new discussion for removal of stax. Thanks Pedro, very much appreciated. Am 26.04.20 um 04:33 schrieb Pedro Giffuni: Hi guys; FWIW, I am involved in beanshell in my spare time, which is not plenty lately. As mentioned previously it is in github now and a much improved version will be released one day (no ETA). While looking for candidates to remove stuff, consider stax. It is included in Java since JDK5. Pedro. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: drop ressources (stlport, maybe beanshell)
Hi guys; FWIW, I am involved in beanshell in my spare time, which is not plenty lately. As mentioned previously it is in github now and a much improved version will be released one day (no ETA). While looking for candidates to remove stuff, consider stax. It is included in Java since JDK5. Pedro. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: drop ressources (stlport, maybe beanshell)
Okay, thanks Damjan. I found the mail in Apache Commons and some other mentions. So I think I got confused. Am 25.04.20 um 08:42 schrieb Damjan Jovanovic: On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 3:50 AM Peter Kovacs wrote: Another potential candidate to get Rid of is beanshell. I am looking into it, the project moved to Apache Commons. I hope that it is still there under a different name (beanUtil?) See https://github.com/beanshell/beanshell#history BeanShell was apparently only proposed as an incubator project, it never entered incubation. Its current home is that GitHub project. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: drop ressources (stlport, maybe beanshell)
On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 3:50 AM Peter Kovacs wrote: > > Another potential candidate to get Rid of is beanshell. I am looking > into it, the project moved to Apache Commons. I hope that it is still > there under a different name (beanUtil?) > > See https://github.com/beanshell/beanshell#history BeanShell was apparently only proposed as an incubator project, it never entered incubation. Its current home is that GitHub project.
Re: drop ressources (stlport, maybe beanshell)
Maybe I was not clear enough. beanshell we use is unmaintained and very old. A potential successor is in Apache-Commons. I am investigating. Without a valid successor we will not drop. In doubt we have to adopt and maintain. But I dont thionk so. I already found the vote in Apache Common to integrate beanshell. I just could not find it, with my tomato eyes :) Am 25.04.20 um 07:37 schrieb Mechtilde: Hello, I want to brint to attention that we can use BEANSHELL for writing Macros. This is one point beside Basic, Javascript and Python. This shouldn't be cut. Kind regards Mechtilde Am 25.04.20 um 03:50 schrieb Peter Kovacs: Hello all, I would like to remove stlport from code. We already build without it, and no one is using it. We have a Repository system for managing old code. We do not need to carry stuff we do not use. Another potential candidate to get Rid of is beanshell. I am looking into it, the project moved to Apache Commons. I hope that it is still there under a different name (beanUtil?) Cleaning out stuff is important. Any Objections? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: drop ressources (stlport, maybe beanshell)
Hello, I want to brint to attention that we can use BEANSHELL for writing Macros. This is one point beside Basic, Javascript and Python. This shouldn't be cut. Kind regards Mechtilde Am 25.04.20 um 03:50 schrieb Peter Kovacs: > Hello all, > > > I would like to remove stlport from code. We already build without it, > and no one is using it. We have a Repository system for managing old > code. We do not need to carry stuff we do not use. > > Another potential candidate to get Rid of is beanshell. I am looking > into it, the project moved to Apache Commons. I hope that it is still > there under a different name (beanUtil?) > > Cleaning out stuff is important. > > Any Objections? > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > -- Mechtilde Stehmann ## Apache OpenOffice ## Freie Office Suite für Linux, MacOSX, Windows ## Debian Developer ## PGP encryption welcome ## F0E3 7F3D C87A 4998 2899 39E7 F287 7BBA 141A AD7F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
drop ressources (stlport, maybe beanshell)
Hello all, I would like to remove stlport from code. We already build without it, and no one is using it. We have a Repository system for managing old code. We do not need to carry stuff we do not use. Another potential candidate to get Rid of is beanshell. I am looking into it, the project moved to Apache Commons. I hope that it is still there under a different name (beanUtil?) Cleaning out stuff is important. Any Objections? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org