Re: release media files
Thanks for the comments. I'm sorry I was so tardy in offering it, I didn't really expect y'all would be able to make use of it with such a suddenness. (first time I played with macro settings on the video camera, so that was fun). I've got a good bit of raw stuff together for the followup piece, but my time on the net is done for this week (almost) - I'll send that along next time. //drew On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Drew Jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com wrote: The SVG files for the logo certainly make a trick ;_) You'll see I've made a few other changes and I kind of like where this is at. One item to note, I did, even with the admonition attached to the logo images, stick with the AOO_w_4 logo in the opening frames. That just makes sense to me specific to the purpose here - I did however switch to the numberless logo for the closing frames. OK - so, I pulled down the file from the other day and put up the results of the changes here: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0ITkdtcnQwOEp3cm8/edit?usp=sharing Second note - the license CC-BY-NC-SA - that's just because of the little 7 second blurb of music, I must use the NC license for that, if that is a problem with anyone I don't mind avoiding that. Otherwise, I'll follow up with mail about a second video (with features highlights) in a separate mail thread. As I said earlier, I'm not connected to the internet regularly, so I've not (and wouldn't able to again before Wed.) posted to any media sites, if this looks acceptable and you folks can make use of it, in any way, please do. Thanks, //drew nice! I really like the way you did the fade-in... On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Drew, This looks really great, but as a note I had to run the mp4 through a convertor program to play it on my MacOSX 10.6.8. Regards, Dave On Jul 20, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Drew Jensen wrote: Thanks for links - I grabbed all the files. So - I'll give another throw and post what happens tomorrow.. On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Drew Jensen wrote: I took the liberty of spinning up a very brief such item, which you can find here: https://docs.google.com/file/**d/**0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IUTY1YzFhR1VLQU0/** edit?usp=sharing https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IUTY1YzFhR1VLQU0/edit?usp=sharing [unzip the a4.mp4 video file from the uploaded zip container] Nice! (and welcome back Drew, by the way). The new logo colors appear a bit too bright at the end, but see below for vector sources, that may help with this. was not able to quickly find a vector graphic of what I take if the new logo, only - I did what I could using the PNG image I found on the wiki, but I'm sure there is a better image available. You can find all versions, including PDF and SVG, at https://svn.apache.org/repos/**asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/** content/marketing/art/**galleries/logos/aoo-working/ https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/aoo-working/ (warning: this is meant to be a temporary location) I would also like to offer, and have started, a second video. Longer, 45 - 90 sec. range, with a quick summary of new features. A little different audiance from the shorty here, I suppose. To start that I've downloaded all the information from the release notes page on the wiki, have used this to generate some raw screen video catpure for the GUI changes and will use, with your permission If I may, the graphics from the wiki for some of the file fidelity enhancements. This would be very good to have. I don't know of anyone else working on this, and obviously you can feel free to use images from the Release Notes page. Regards, Andrea. --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- - MzK Success is falling nine times and getting up ten. -- Jon Bon Jovi
Re: release media files
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Drew Jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks for the comments. I'm sorry I was so tardy in offering it, I didn't really expect y'all would be able to make use of it with such a suddenness. (first time I played with macro settings on the video camera, so that was fun). I've got a good bit of raw stuff together for the followup piece, but my time on the net is done for this week (almost) - I'll send that along next time. //drew Thanks again. Looking forward to the followup. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Drew Jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com wrote: The SVG files for the logo certainly make a trick ;_) You'll see I've made a few other changes and I kind of like where this is at. One item to note, I did, even with the admonition attached to the logo images, stick with the AOO_w_4 logo in the opening frames. That just makes sense to me specific to the purpose here - I did however switch to the numberless logo for the closing frames. OK - so, I pulled down the file from the other day and put up the results of the changes here: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0ITkdtcnQwOEp3cm8/edit?usp=sharing Second note - the license CC-BY-NC-SA - that's just because of the little 7 second blurb of music, I must use the NC license for that, if that is a problem with anyone I don't mind avoiding that. Otherwise, I'll follow up with mail about a second video (with features highlights) in a separate mail thread. As I said earlier, I'm not connected to the internet regularly, so I've not (and wouldn't able to again before Wed.) posted to any media sites, if this looks acceptable and you folks can make use of it, in any way, please do. Thanks, //drew nice! I really like the way you did the fade-in... On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Drew, This looks really great, but as a note I had to run the mp4 through a convertor program to play it on my MacOSX 10.6.8. Regards, Dave On Jul 20, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Drew Jensen wrote: Thanks for links - I grabbed all the files. So - I'll give another throw and post what happens tomorrow.. On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Drew Jensen wrote: I took the liberty of spinning up a very brief such item, which you can find here: https://docs.google.com/file/**d/**0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IUTY1YzFhR1VLQU0/** edit?usp=sharing https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IUTY1YzFhR1VLQU0/edit?usp=sharing [unzip the a4.mp4 video file from the uploaded zip container] Nice! (and welcome back Drew, by the way). The new logo colors appear a bit too bright at the end, but see below for vector sources, that may help with this. was not able to quickly find a vector graphic of what I take if the new logo, only - I did what I could using the PNG image I found on the wiki, but I'm sure there is a better image available. You can find all versions, including PDF and SVG, at https://svn.apache.org/repos/**asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/** content/marketing/art/**galleries/logos/aoo-working/ https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/aoo-working/ (warning: this is meant to be a temporary location) I would also like to offer, and have started, a second video. Longer, 45 - 90 sec. range, with a quick summary of new features. A little different audiance from the shorty here, I suppose. To start that I've downloaded all the information from the release notes page on the wiki, have used this to generate some raw screen video catpure for the GUI changes and will use, with your permission If I may, the graphics from the wiki for some of the file fidelity enhancements. This would be very good to have. I don't know of anyone else working on this, and obviously you can feel free to use images from the Release Notes page. Regards, Andrea. --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org --
Re: release media files
On 21.07.2013 23:21, Drew Jensen wrote: The SVG files for the logo certainly make a trick ;_) You'll see I've made a few other changes and I kind of like where this is at. One item to note, I did, even with the admonition attached to the logo images, stick with the AOO_w_4 logo in the opening frames. That just makes sense to me specific to the purpose here - I did however switch to the numberless logo for the closing frames. OK - so, I pulled down the file from the other day and put up the results of the changes here: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0ITkdtcnQwOEp3cm8/edit?usp=sharing The new logo with the transparent background really improves the video a lot, very well done! ---rony - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: release media files
On 22 July 2013 10:55, Rony G. Flatscher (Apache) r...@apache.org wrote: On 21.07.2013 23:21, Drew Jensen wrote: The SVG files for the logo certainly make a trick ;_) You'll see I've made a few other changes and I kind of like where this is at. One item to note, I did, even with the admonition attached to the logo images, stick with the AOO_w_4 logo in the opening frames. That just makes sense to me specific to the purpose here - I did however switch to the numberless logo for the closing frames. OK - so, I pulled down the file from the other day and put up the results of the changes here: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0ITkdtcnQwOEp3cm8/edit?usp=sharing The new logo with the transparent background really improves the video a lot, very well done! Impressive work, well done. rgds jan I. ---rony - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: release media files
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Drew Jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.comwrote: The SVG files for the logo certainly make a trick ;_) You'll see I've made a few other changes and I kind of like where this is at. One item to note, I did, even with the admonition attached to the logo images, stick with the AOO_w_4 logo in the opening frames. That just makes sense to me specific to the purpose here - I did however switch to the numberless logo for the closing frames. OK - so, I pulled down the file from the other day and put up the results of the changes here: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0ITkdtcnQwOEp3cm8/edit?usp=sharing Second note - the license CC-BY-NC-SA - that's just because of the little 7 second blurb of music, I must use the NC license for that, if that is a problem with anyone I don't mind avoiding that. Otherwise, I'll follow up with mail about a second video (with features highlights) in a separate mail thread. As I said earlier, I'm not connected to the internet regularly, so I've not (and wouldn't able to again before Wed.) posted to any media sites, if this looks acceptable and you folks can make use of it, in any way, please do. Thanks, //drew nice! I really like the way you did the fade-in... On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Drew, This looks really great, but as a note I had to run the mp4 through a convertor program to play it on my MacOSX 10.6.8. Regards, Dave On Jul 20, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Drew Jensen wrote: Thanks for links - I grabbed all the files. So - I'll give another throw and post what happens tomorrow.. On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Drew Jensen wrote: I took the liberty of spinning up a very brief such item, which you can find here: https://docs.google.com/file/**d/**0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IUTY1YzFhR1VLQU0/** edit?usp=sharing https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IUTY1YzFhR1VLQU0/edit?usp=sharing [unzip the a4.mp4 video file from the uploaded zip container] Nice! (and welcome back Drew, by the way). The new logo colors appear a bit too bright at the end, but see below for vector sources, that may help with this. was not able to quickly find a vector graphic of what I take if the new logo, only - I did what I could using the PNG image I found on the wiki, but I'm sure there is a better image available. You can find all versions, including PDF and SVG, at https://svn.apache.org/repos/**asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/** content/marketing/art/**galleries/logos/aoo-working/ https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/aoo-working/ (warning: this is meant to be a temporary location) I would also like to offer, and have started, a second video. Longer, 45 - 90 sec. range, with a quick summary of new features. A little different audiance from the shorty here, I suppose. To start that I've downloaded all the information from the release notes page on the wiki, have used this to generate some raw screen video catpure for the GUI changes and will use, with your permission If I may, the graphics from the wiki for some of the file fidelity enhancements. This would be very good to have. I don't know of anyone else working on this, and obviously you can feel free to use images from the Release Notes page. Regards, Andrea. --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- - MzK Success is falling nine times and getting up ten. -- Jon Bon Jovi
Re: release media files
hmm - The settings on the second file 'should be good for' an Apple product.. On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Drew, This looks really great, but as a note I had to run the mp4 through a convertor program to play it on my MacOSX 10.6.8. Regards, Dave On Jul 20, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Drew Jensen wrote: Thanks for links - I grabbed all the files. So - I'll give another throw and post what happens tomorrow.. On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Drew Jensen wrote: I took the liberty of spinning up a very brief such item, which you can find here: https://docs.google.com/file/**d/**0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IUTY1YzFhR1VLQU0/** edit?usp=sharing https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IUTY1YzFhR1VLQU0/edit?usp=sharing [unzip the a4.mp4 video file from the uploaded zip container] Nice! (and welcome back Drew, by the way). The new logo colors appear a bit too bright at the end, but see below for vector sources, that may help with this. was not able to quickly find a vector graphic of what I take if the new logo, only - I did what I could using the PNG image I found on the wiki, but I'm sure there is a better image available. You can find all versions, including PDF and SVG, at https://svn.apache.org/repos/**asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/** content/marketing/art/**galleries/logos/aoo-working/ https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/aoo-working/ (warning: this is meant to be a temporary location) I would also like to offer, and have started, a second video. Longer, 45 - 90 sec. range, with a quick summary of new features. A little different audiance from the shorty here, I suppose. To start that I've downloaded all the information from the release notes page on the wiki, have used this to generate some raw screen video catpure for the GUI changes and will use, with your permission If I may, the graphics from the wiki for some of the file fidelity enhancements. This would be very good to have. I don't know of anyone else working on this, and obviously you can feel free to use images from the Release Notes page. Regards, Andrea. --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: release media files
On 20.07.2013 02:46, Drew Jensen wrote: Howdy Folks, Long time no speak - I noticed the pedning the 4.0 release, read an email the other day regarding the use, or not so much, of the blog for an announcemtn and more social media. Thought perhaps you would like a short 'release announcement' type video perhaps. I took the liberty of spinning up a very brief such item, which you can find here: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IUTY1YzFhR1VLQU0/edit?usp=sharing [unzip the a4.mp4 video file from the uploaded zip container] This is just 13 seconds, very low key, I think classy however (course' I'm bias), I had in mind an audiance of those already using the suite and just waiting for the release - so useful maybe on FB or G+, but if it suits anyone please feel free to use it in any fashion you see fit. Now - one item, I have not been on-line much for many months (only 1 a week for a few hours on average) and have not kept up with the goings on, so, was not able to quickly find a vector graphic of what I take if the new logo, only - I did what I could using the PNG image I found on the wiki, but I'm sure there is a better image available. So, if anyone knows where a vector image for that logo can be found I appreciate it if you could ping back to this mail on the list with the URL. I would also like to offer, and have started, a second video. Longer, 45 - 90 sec. range, with a quick summary of new features. A little different audiance from the shorty here, I suppose. To start that I've downloaded all the information from the release notes page on the wiki, have used this to generate some raw screen video catpure for the GUI changes and will use, with your permission If I may, the graphics from the wiki for some of the file fidelity enhancements. On this second piece, the problem is likely of what *not* to include, if I want to hit the length mark above - that certainly would benefit from collaboration on the list here. Also, because I've not been following along the list on a reagular basis I'm not sure if anyone is dong somthing like that already, if so I would offer to help - otherwise, I planned on putting a first cut together over the weekedn and would make a copy to the list for merciless review (the best kind of course). If anyone wants to post on the list to the email with a script though - it wouldn't hurt at all ;) Thanks for all your had work, it shows in the product. //drew Very cute! ---rony - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: release media files
Drew Jensen wrote: I took the liberty of spinning up a very brief such item, which you can find here: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IUTY1YzFhR1VLQU0/edit?usp=sharing [unzip the a4.mp4 video file from the uploaded zip container] Nice! (and welcome back Drew, by the way). The new logo colors appear a bit too bright at the end, but see below for vector sources, that may help with this. was not able to quickly find a vector graphic of what I take if the new logo, only - I did what I could using the PNG image I found on the wiki, but I'm sure there is a better image available. You can find all versions, including PDF and SVG, at https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/aoo-working/ (warning: this is meant to be a temporary location) I would also like to offer, and have started, a second video. Longer, 45 - 90 sec. range, with a quick summary of new features. A little different audiance from the shorty here, I suppose. To start that I've downloaded all the information from the release notes page on the wiki, have used this to generate some raw screen video catpure for the GUI changes and will use, with your permission If I may, the graphics from the wiki for some of the file fidelity enhancements. This would be very good to have. I don't know of anyone else working on this, and obviously you can feel free to use images from the Release Notes page. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: release media files
Thanks for links - I grabbed all the files. So - I'll give another throw and post what happens tomorrow.. On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote: Drew Jensen wrote: I took the liberty of spinning up a very brief such item, which you can find here: https://docs.google.com/file/**d/**0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IUTY1YzFhR1VLQU0/** edit?usp=sharinghttps://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IUTY1YzFhR1VLQU0/edit?usp=sharing [unzip the a4.mp4 video file from the uploaded zip container] Nice! (and welcome back Drew, by the way). The new logo colors appear a bit too bright at the end, but see below for vector sources, that may help with this. was not able to quickly find a vector graphic of what I take if the new logo, only - I did what I could using the PNG image I found on the wiki, but I'm sure there is a better image available. You can find all versions, including PDF and SVG, at https://svn.apache.org/repos/**asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/** content/marketing/art/**galleries/logos/aoo-working/https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/aoo-working/ (warning: this is meant to be a temporary location) I would also like to offer, and have started, a second video. Longer, 45 - 90 sec. range, with a quick summary of new features. A little different audiance from the shorty here, I suppose. To start that I've downloaded all the information from the release notes page on the wiki, have used this to generate some raw screen video catpure for the GUI changes and will use, with your permission If I may, the graphics from the wiki for some of the file fidelity enhancements. This would be very good to have. I don't know of anyone else working on this, and obviously you can feel free to use images from the Release Notes page. Regards, Andrea. --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: release media files
Hi Drew, This looks really great, but as a note I had to run the mp4 through a convertor program to play it on my MacOSX 10.6.8. Regards, Dave On Jul 20, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Drew Jensen wrote: Thanks for links - I grabbed all the files. So - I'll give another throw and post what happens tomorrow.. On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote: Drew Jensen wrote: I took the liberty of spinning up a very brief such item, which you can find here: https://docs.google.com/file/**d/**0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IUTY1YzFhR1VLQU0/** edit?usp=sharinghttps://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IUTY1YzFhR1VLQU0/edit?usp=sharing [unzip the a4.mp4 video file from the uploaded zip container] Nice! (and welcome back Drew, by the way). The new logo colors appear a bit too bright at the end, but see below for vector sources, that may help with this. was not able to quickly find a vector graphic of what I take if the new logo, only - I did what I could using the PNG image I found on the wiki, but I'm sure there is a better image available. You can find all versions, including PDF and SVG, at https://svn.apache.org/repos/**asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/** content/marketing/art/**galleries/logos/aoo-working/https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/aoo-working/ (warning: this is meant to be a temporary location) I would also like to offer, and have started, a second video. Longer, 45 - 90 sec. range, with a quick summary of new features. A little different audiance from the shorty here, I suppose. To start that I've downloaded all the information from the release notes page on the wiki, have used this to generate some raw screen video catpure for the GUI changes and will use, with your permission If I may, the graphics from the wiki for some of the file fidelity enhancements. This would be very good to have. I don't know of anyone else working on this, and obviously you can feel free to use images from the Release Notes page. Regards, Andrea. --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
release media files
Howdy Folks, Long time no speak - I noticed the pedning the 4.0 release, read an email the other day regarding the use, or not so much, of the blog for an announcemtn and more social media. Thought perhaps you would like a short 'release announcement' type video perhaps. I took the liberty of spinning up a very brief such item, which you can find here: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IUTY1YzFhR1VLQU0/edit?usp=sharing [unzip the a4.mp4 video file from the uploaded zip container] This is just 13 seconds, very low key, I think classy however (course' I'm bias), I had in mind an audiance of those already using the suite and just waiting for the release - so useful maybe on FB or G+, but if it suits anyone please feel free to use it in any fashion you see fit. Now - one item, I have not been on-line much for many months (only 1 a week for a few hours on average) and have not kept up with the goings on, so, was not able to quickly find a vector graphic of what I take if the new logo, only - I did what I could using the PNG image I found on the wiki, but I'm sure there is a better image available. So, if anyone knows where a vector image for that logo can be found I appreciate it if you could ping back to this mail on the list with the URL. I would also like to offer, and have started, a second video. Longer, 45 - 90 sec. range, with a quick summary of new features. A little different audiance from the shorty here, I suppose. To start that I've downloaded all the information from the release notes page on the wiki, have used this to generate some raw screen video catpure for the GUI changes and will use, with your permission If I may, the graphics from the wiki for some of the file fidelity enhancements. On this second piece, the problem is likely of what *not* to include, if I want to hit the length mark above - that certainly would benefit from collaboration on the list here. Also, because I've not been following along the list on a reagular basis I'm not sure if anyone is dong somthing like that already, if so I would offer to help - otherwise, I planned on putting a first cut together over the weekedn and would make a copy to the list for merciless review (the best kind of course). If anyone wants to post on the list to the email with a script though - it wouldn't hurt at all ;) Thanks for all your had work, it shows in the product. //drew
