Re: [dev] problem with compiling ooo-build
Hi, On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 06:48:26PM +0200, Heiko L. wrote: |diff --git a/sc/inc/sc.hrc b/sc/inc/sc.hrc - pwd != patchdir - use -p1 Nonsense. If you looked at the actual patch: --- sc/inc/sc.hrc +++ sc/inc/sc.hrc Go figure. (The sbuild tree of theones who tries building is just fucked up and doesn't have sc (any probably many more) for whatever reason). And that patch just is the first one ever applied. Grüße/Regards, René - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [dev] problem with compiling ooo-build
Thanks guys. I just reinstalled my system and tried to download OO again, because there were lots of files missing and it just couldn't work. I installed Ubuntu Karmic but it's not working there either, ubuntu-sparc-hack.diff seems like missing second half of a file. I was hopeless so I commented it out in 'apply' with some other .diff with the same problem and now it's complaining about some package configuration. Trying to fix it, but... Don't you know whether there is some distro without serious problems with building? I'm quite willing to install it whatever it is. thanks On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Rene Engelhard r...@openoffice.org wrote: Hi, On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 06:48:26PM +0200, Heiko L. wrote: |diff --git a/sc/inc/sc.hrc b/sc/inc/sc.hrc - pwd != patchdir - use -p1 Nonsense. If you looked at the actual patch: --- sc/inc/sc.hrc +++ sc/inc/sc.hrc Go figure. (The sbuild tree of theones who tries building is just fucked up and doesn't have sc (any probably many more) for whatever reason). And that patch just is the first one ever applied. Grüße/Regards, René - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [dev] problem with compiling ooo-build
Hi Michal, On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 10:03 +0200, Michal Spisiak wrote: Thanks guys. I just reinstalled my system and tried to download OO again, because there were lots of files missing and it just couldn't work. I installed Ubuntu Karmic but it's not working there either, ubuntu-sparc-hack.diff seems like missing second half of a file. I was hopeless so I commented it out in 'apply' with some other .diff with the same problem and now it's complaining about some package configuration. Trying to fix it, but... Don't you know whether there is some distro without serious problems with building? I'm quite willing to install it whatever it is. I'm personally using OpenSuse 11.2 and it works nicely... Could you please continue the discussion on ooo-build mailing-list as this is an ooo-build specific problem? Regards, -- Cedric - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.org
[dev] Wiki Cleanup: Mission Accomplished (Mostly)
Hi List, the Wiki Cleanup has been almost completed. There are just seven pages left in: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Special:UncategorizedPages If you can remove those, please do so. Also note the new Guidelines at: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Wiki_Contribution_Guidelines All previous guidelines now refer to that page. Please stick to them when creating new content or when updating old. Pages that ignoring the guidelines will be dealt with more vicously from now on (read: they might just be deleted). Some of the categories are still overflowing with pages. Please note that the administration guidelines[1] say: Dont assign a page to multiple categories if one is an subcategories of another. Just use the most specific category. This eases reordering and reorganisation of categories. I already sorted out the Development (which had more than 200 members) and Writer categories, by creating subcategories and moving the content into them. A category with more than 100 members rarely helps anybody. Other categories still need help. The dev projects are asked to take responsibility for the pages in subcategories of Development and its subcategories. Please take a close look at the pages in the following categories: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:Calc (113 members) Please create subcategories and move the pages into the more specific subcategory. Best Regards and thanks to all who helped out, Bjoern [1] http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Wiki_Administration_Guidelines - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [dev] Help improve OpenOffice.org
Emilia, Please feel free to join the Slovak community here: http://sk.openoffice.org/ Regards, Charles-H. Schulz Le Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:07:22 +0100, Emília Alezárová alezarova.emi...@atk.sk a écrit : Good day I would like to help you produced OpenOffice.org 3.2 In my opinion, it would be good if he had a better design around too, as is Microsoft Office. To make it easier to use. To help and help what is it? were entirely in Slovak. To be more capacity than it had before. To put data into a format Microsoft Office 2003. For a higher quality than before. That grammar was better. Thank you And I hope you at least somewhat helpful. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [dev] operator delete mismatch
On 03/26/10 18:42, Terrence Enger wrote: However, I have not found what library holds the object code for operators_new_delete.cxx. So it is hard to set a breakpoint to see what heap address is causing the assertion. (When a system library is calling delete or delete[], it is hard to work back to the call. When it is a proprietary driver doing the call, it is again hard; but now hard has an entirely different meaning grin /.) I tried changing the source in operators_new_delete.cxx, but a rebuild did not reflect changes. I presume ... (a) Something in the build process does not recognize a dependency that it should. Does this sound plausible? Should something be fixed? Alas, I do not know enough even to think about the question. (b) A full build will incorporate my changes. It should not be long until _m76. sal/cpprt/operators_new_delete.cxx compiles to an archive libsalcpprt.a, delivered from sal to solver (cd sal build deliver). That archive in turn is linked into executables via solenv/inc/_tg_app.mk (variables APPnLIBSALCPPRT). However, the dependency between the archive and the resulting executables is not tracked by the OOo build system. The easiest way to get a new soffice.bin executable that contains the changes to the archive is to do cd desktop rm -r $INPATH build deliver The solver bin directory will then contain a new soffice.bin. -Stephan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [dev] operator delete mismatch
Hi Terrence,
On Friday, 2010-03-26 13:42:28 -0400, Terrence Enger wrote:
However, I have not found what library holds the object code for
operators_new_delete.cxx.
Let's see.. operators_new_delete.cxx is in sal/cpprt/, the
sal/cpprt/makefile.mk says TARGET=salcpprt, then for $(OS) !=
SOLARIS we have LIB1ARCHIV containing $(TARGET), so the resulting
archive is libsalcpprt.a, which then per solenv/inc/$INPATH.mk and
solenv/inc/tg_app.mk is linked to applications.
I tried changing the source in operators_new_delete.cxx, but a rebuild
did not reflect changes. I presume ...
(a) Something in the build process does not recognize a dependency
that it should. Does this sound plausible? Should something be
fixed? Alas, I do not know enough even to think about the
question.
Linkage dependencies are not tracked, a long outstanding deficiency..
a (quite) safe bet is to
rm */$INPATH/{lib,bin}/*
and build all. Given that apparently only applications are affected
here, a rm */$INPATH/bin/* might do as well.
(b) A full build will incorporate my changes. It should not be long
until _m76.
The assertion failures are so distracting that I am considering
removing the source line altogether from _m76 when it comes out.
Strong veto. This is the only safe mechanism to detect these errors,
which are real errors as the alloc/free procedures differ between array
and non-array allocations.
After all, it seems that most people do not even try to use a
non-production build.
IIRC the assertion is thrown only in a unxlng* non-product build, most
developers using non-product builds unfortunately do this on Windows,
developers building their own on Linux unfortunately don't use
non-products because it has to be explicitly enabled during configure
(to be changed?). So the set of developers actually using Linux
non-products is quite small.
If I had hope of being able to track down more causes, that would
change my attitude.
Please change your attitude nevertheless ;-)
It seems you have hit an area that introduced these errors quite
recently. I usually work with non-products and didn't encounter any up
to m73 or so, working mainly within in Calc though.
Eike
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[dev] Re: OpenOffice.org Product Development (was: Community Council Elections: Introducing the Nominees)
Hi Martin, *, this is in response to your blog post here: http://blogs.sun.com/ratte/entry/openoffice_org_product_development (I'll separately post a blog entry about this, but would prefer discussion on this mailing list) You wrote: The only candidate now for the non-code contributing projects for the next round of council elections will be Thorsten Behrens. he's a well known great supporter of the hacker driven Product Development, from my perspective a good representative of the code contributors. But not for the non-code contributing PD projects of OOo as the charter of the CC states. It's difficult to do a no vote against the only candidate for this seat, especially if the candidate does good things for the project and I consider him as a good friend of mine. But we need a general review of the PD part of the project, and therefore I want to see a person representing the classical school of product development and call for a no-vote and call for new candidates. Martin, so do you really think someone capable of working on the strategic marketing plan will have _more_ time doing so when being a member of the CC? ;) More seriously, and as I wrote in my intro mail, I firmly believe that CC's central function is arbitration - i.e. talking to people, convincing folks, finding compromise. It's decidedly not the place to vote people into, because you need specific jobs A, B, or C done - that's what the different projects are for, for your example the marketing project. My selling point is surely not decades of marketing experience, but rather my ties into the wider community, for which I know very many people in person, and would call quite a few of them friends. I've done QA work on CWS sponsoring a tinderbox, I know a fair bit about the economies strategies in FLOSS communities - and I do my legwork in advertising OOo, e.g. at CeBIT. As stated in my introduction mail, I'm explicitely running for this seat representing projects outside of raw code contribution in the council - in fact, I've always frowned upon the notion of being purely code contributor, qa engineer, or marketer - core to my motivation is my love for this project, that is OOo, and everything that's necessary to further its success. Across all camps. And finally, I find the act of lobbying for a no vote against a CC candidate quite without precedent, even more so since there was not even a single question, neither public nor privately, about my intentions or motivations, let alone a discussion. I can only ask everyone involved to check the facts objectively, and keep up with the tradition of having the CC be a place of collaboration compromise, instead of exclusionism camp mentality. Regards, -- Thorsten pgphh8JNGVzPX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [dev] Re: OpenOffice.org Product Development
Hi Thorsten, all, Thorsten Behrens wrote: Hi Martin, *, this is in response to your blog post here: http://blogs.sun.com/ratte/entry/openoffice_org_product_development (I'll separately post a blog entry about this, but would prefer discussion on this mailing list) You wrote: The only candidate now for the non-code contributing projects for the next round of council elections will be Thorsten Behrens. he's a well known great supporter of the hacker driven Product Development, from my perspective a good representative of the code contributors. But not for the non-code contributing PD projects of OOo as the charter of the CC states. It's difficult to do a no vote against the only candidate for this seat, especially if the candidate does good things for the project and I consider him as a good friend of mine. But we need a general review of the PD part of the project, and therefore I want to see a person representing the classical school of product development and call for a no-vote and call for new candidates. Martin, so do you really think someone capable of working on the strategic marketing plan will have _more_ time doing so when being a member of the CC? ;) More seriously, and as I wrote in my intro mail, I firmly believe that CC's central function is arbitration - i.e. talking to people, convincing folks, finding compromise. It's decidedly not the place to vote people into, because you need specific jobs A, B, or C done - that's what the different projects are for, for your example the marketing project. My selling point is surely not decades of marketing experience, but rather my ties into the wider community, for which I know very many people in person, and would call quite a few of them friends. I jump here. In your first introduction, that was not obvious that you will adopt this position of product dev representative. I for myself had also this question in mind. I've been one very concerned by the fact that nobody in the CC get the doc project or the QA project voices. For some times, product dev was only core code, and even if it's very important, that's not enough to deliver a good product. QA, is in the middle, Doc, Marketing and l10n are very important neighbors. This is the role of the product dev representative to give these projects a strong voice in the overall project. I've done QA work on CWS sponsoring a tinderbox, I know a fair bit about the economies strategies in FLOSS communities - and I do my legwork in advertising OOo, e.g. at CeBIT. As stated in my introduction mail, I'm explicitely running for this seat representing projects outside of raw code contribution in the council - in fact, I've always frowned upon the notion of being purely code contributor, qa engineer, or marketer - core to my motivation is my love for this project, that is OOo, and everything that's necessary to further its success. Across all camps. I've been able to see how you love this project, no doubt on that. I feel that currently there is a deep smog on our communication flow, see Rene's feeling today, mine on l10n, others on lingu list, may be a not so well balanced mail from Bjoern, whatever the great work he has done and the not answered question from Volker about odficons01. I guess we have some strange times to pass along. That should not disturb us from what we have to do: keep the community strong, working in confidence, attach importance to what really has, and forget the rest. I'm happy to see both Eike and you being candidates to the CC. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.org
[dev] Problems building OOO320_m14 on Windows.
I am trying to build OOO320_m14 on Windows in CygWin 1.5.25 Here is my configure: ./configure \ --disable-nss-module \ --with-use-shell=bash \ --disable-activex \ --disable-directx \ --disable-epm \ --disable-atl \ --disable-build-mozilla \ --with-cl-home=/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0/VC \ --with-ant-home=/cygdrive/c/Winapps/Java/ant \ --with-frame-home=/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft SDKs/Windows/v6.1 \ --with-psdk-home=/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft SDKs/Windows/v6.1 \ --with-midl-path=/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft SDKs/Windows/v6.1/Bin \ --with-asm-home=/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0/VC/Bin \ --with-jdk-home=/cygdrive/c/Winapps/Java/jdk16 \ --with-csc-path=/cygdrive/c/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v3.5 After running dmake I get this error: dmake: makefile.mk: line 3: Warning: -- Duplicate target [OR] dmake: makefile.mk: line 3: Error: -- Expecting macro or rule defn, found neither Can somebody help me with this?
Re: [dev] Transforming the Hyperlink bar in a websearch toolbar
Mathias Bauer wrote (26-03-10 13:50) There could be another option that came up when I discussed the problem with Carsten Driesner: what if we could bundle the three controls into a common parent window (transparent and with no borders so that the sub [...] I've an idea in a completely different area: change the algorithm for the look up so that it behaves as a look up field in for example a browsers address bar. I.e., when I type tool all files with tool in the full name are presented... Regards, Cor -- Your office 2010 software: the new OpenOffice.org Cor Nouws - ideas/remarks for the community council? - http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.org
[dev] Question
Good day When will the new OpenOffice 3.2?
Re: [dev] Re: OpenOffice.org Product Development
Hi Thorsten, all, Thorsten Behrens wrote: Hi Martin, *, this is in response to your blog post here: http://blogs.sun.com/ratte/entry/openoffice_org_product_development (I'll separately post a blog entry about this, but would prefer discussion on this mailing list) You wrote: The only candidate now for the non-code contributing projects for the next round of council elections will be Thorsten Behrens. he's a well known great supporter of the hacker driven Product Development, from my perspective a good representative of the code contributors. But not for the non-code contributing PD projects of OOo as the charter of the CC states. It's difficult to do a no vote against the only candidate for this seat, especially if the candidate does good things for the project and I consider him as a good friend of mine. But we need a general review of the PD part of the project, and therefore I want to see a person representing the classical school of product development and call for a no-vote and call for new candidates. Martin, so do you really think someone capable of working on the strategic marketing plan will have _more_ time doing so when being a member of the CC? ;) More seriously, and as I wrote in my intro mail, I firmly believe that CC's central function is arbitration - i.e. talking to people, convincing folks, finding compromise. It's decidedly not the place to vote people into, because you need specific jobs A, B, or C done - that's what the different projects are for, for your example the marketing project. My selling point is surely not decades of marketing experience, but rather my ties into the wider community, for which I know very many people in person, and would call quite a few of them friends. I jump here. In your first introduction, that was not obvious that you will adopt this position of product dev representative. I for myself had also this question in mind. I've been one very concerned by the fact that nobody in the CC get the doc project or the QA project voices. For some times, product dev was only core code, and even if it's very important, that's not enough to deliver a good product. QA, is in the middle, Doc, Marketing and l10n are very important neighbors. This is the role of the product dev representative to give these projects a strong voice in the overall project. I've done QA work on CWS sponsoring a tinderbox, I know a fair bit about the economies strategies in FLOSS communities - and I do my legwork in advertising OOo, e.g. at CeBIT. As stated in my introduction mail, I'm explicitely running for this seat representing projects outside of raw code contribution in the council - in fact, I've always frowned upon the notion of being purely code contributor, qa engineer, or marketer - core to my motivation is my love for this project, that is OOo, and everything that's necessary to further its success. Across all camps. I've been able to see how you love this project, no doubt on that. I feel that currently there is a deep smog on our communication flow, see Rene's feeling today, mine on l10n, others on lingu list, may be a not so well balanced mail from Bjoern, whatever the great work he has done and the not answered question from Volker about odficons01. I guess we have some strange times to pass along. That should not disturb us from what we have to do: keep the community strong, working in confidence, attach importance to what really has, and forget the rest. I'm happy to see both Eike and you being candidates to the CC. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.org
[dev] Re: Re: OpenOffice.org Product Development
Hey Thorsten, I've just read your blog post and thought that I follow your advice and join the discussion here. You know that we've had a couple of discussions regarding OpenOffice.org as a product and the role of QA and UX in the whole process. And we did not agree on many things in these discussions due to totally different points of view regarding what should be the evetual outcome of our work or if there should be an outcone at all . Therefore, I must say that I got a bit scarred seeing you as a nominee for the position that has Product as a word in it's title. That there is noone else nominated scares me more, I admit that. However, I am worried not because I wouldn't know how much you love the project, I really do. Ironically, that is exactly the issue I am worried about. In my understanding, for this position you would need to love the product more than the project. And definitely more than code ;-) From my end-user driven perspective, the project exists for the love of the product, and the Product Development Representatives should coordinate the cooperative efforts of all OpenOffice.org projects towards one vision. A vision of OpenOffice.org as a product that brings true value to our project by providing true value to our users. Ultemately, it's the outcome that matters. Think of music or visual art for instance. It's a particular song people adore to listen to, or it's a famous painting that is being starred at in a museum. Though the creation of both might be thrilling, seeing your work, be it a song, a piece of visual art or even a piece of software, thriving in the context of the intended audience, making others a bit happier through your creation, evetually gives any artist true reward. My understanding of your position regarding OpenOffice.org as a product based on our discussion in Italy last year, and please correct me if I am wrong, is that code contributions or all kinds of engineering efforts in general are more important than their quality in terms of their product value and thus their value for the users. If I recall it correctly, you consider our current processes for functional quality (QA) and design quality (UX) as unnecessary impediments posed by a bureaucratic instance to maintain its influence on the project. I mean, at least to me, it's big gap in here that matters a lot for the position you are applying. Please don't get me wrong, it is certainly OK to have a different motivation for being in this project but to persue a role that is more outcome- and thus consumer-related requires a particular mind-set that is incongruous to your attutude as I currently know it. So far, you've been a valuable contributor from an engineering and and community-growing perspective. I by no means have the attempt to depriciate that. But in sum, I am uncertain that your convictions fit this particular role of a Product Development Representative. At least you'd have to convince me :-) Best, Andreas -- * Sun Microsystems GmbHAndreas Bartel Nagelsweg 55 User Experience Engineer 20097 HamburgPhone: (+49 40)23646 672 Germany Fax: (+49 40)23646 550 http://www.sun.com mailto:andreas.bar...@sun.com * Sitz der Gesellschaft: Sun Microsystems GmbH, Sonnenallee 1, D-85551 Kirchheim-Heimstetten Amtsgericht München: HRB 161028 Geschäftsführer: Thomas Schröder Hi Thorsten, all, Thorsten Behrens wrote: Hi Martin, *, this is in response to your blog post here: http://blogs.sun.com/ratte/entry/openoffice_org_product_development (I'll separately post a blog entry about this, but would prefer discussion on this mailing list) You wrote: The only candidate now for the non-code contributing projects for the next round of council elections will be Thorsten Behrens. he's a well known great supporter of the hacker driven Product Development, from my perspective a good representative of the code contributors. But not for the non-code contributing PD projects of OOo as the charter of the CC states. It's difficult to do a no vote against the only candidate for this seat, especially if the candidate does good things for the project and I consider him as a good friend of mine. But we need a general review of the PD part of the project, and therefore I want to see a person representing the classical school of product development and call for a no-vote and call for new candidates. Martin, so do you really think someone capable of working on the strategic marketing plan will have _more_ time doing so when being a member of the CC? ;) More seriously, and as I wrote in my intro mail, I firmly believe that CC's central function is arbitration - i.e. talking to people, convincing folks,
