Re: [OSM-dev] [Tilesathome] ATT. NEW SERVER FOR [EMAIL PROTECTED] IN USAGE AS OF NOW

2008-09-26 Thread spaetz
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 02:07:10PM -0400, Matthias Julius wrote: The tile details pages (http://server.tah.openstreetmap.org/Browse/details/tile/12/1123/1652/ for example) still reference the tile image from tah instead of server.tah Yep, image locations remain the same. We don't want to

[OSM-dev] A bit of developer philosophy...

2008-09-26 Thread Chris Browet
Hi, I have a moral dilemma. I consider implementing KML import in Merkaartor. While it would be a perfectly legit feature as KML is a standard ( http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/kml), I also know that it could be used to import copyright protected stuff into OSM, even by mistake. Now I

Re: [OSM-dev] A bit of developer philosophy...

2008-09-26 Thread Patrick Kilian
Hi, I have a moral dilemma. I consider implementing KML import in Merkaartor. While it would be a perfectly legit feature as KML is a standard (http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/kml), I also know that it could be used to import copyright protected stuff into OSM, even by mistake.

Re: [OSM-dev] A bit of developer philosophy...

2008-09-26 Thread Patrick Weber
I would be for it, as AFAIK there is a lack of import paths into OSM from more mainstream GIS formats. KML would be a good start, as my favourite GIS (Manifold) allows export of data in KML. At the moment, the data entry and editing powers of Manifold make life a lot easier for creating OSM

Re: [OSM-dev] A bit of developer philosophy...

2008-09-26 Thread Chris Browet
If someone _has_ genuine, self-researched KML (why?), it's not much of a hurdle to use gpsbabel to convert it to GPX (cf other discussion ;) ). Their GPX will then fail because there are no timestamps, so they will look at our FAQ, find out why, and then realise the dangers of importing

Re: [OSM-dev] A bit of developer philosophy...

2008-09-26 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Richard Fairhurst wrote: which - for the same reason - I think ought to be blacklisted, or disclaimered, or DDOSed, or taken outside and shot. Incidentally, countries where people are taken outside and shot are often also those who care least about intellectual property ;-) But

Re: [OSM-dev] A bit of developer philosophy...

2008-09-26 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Frederik Ramm wrote: One of my reasons is that once you start bossing around your users then you take responsibility for *everything* they do. (US coffee cups having a caution! content may be hot warning; US Batman costumes carrying the note caution! costume does not enable wearer to

Re: [OSM-dev] A bit of developer philosophy...

2008-09-26 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Richard Fairhurst wrote: A KML import option is an active invitation for the user to import a Google-dominated file format, like Google WMS is an active invitation to trace off Google Maps. Not providing an active invitation isn't the same as bossing users around. Granted but I

[OSM-dev] Paid services from OSM

2008-09-26 Thread Julison
Hi all, I'm not sure it this list is the correct place to post that question, but there it goes: I'm developing a traffic info service as a layer into OpenStreetMap, primarily for Sao Paulo, Brazil.. I'm in a very beginning in that project. That project will have a public (and free) service

Re: [OSM-dev] A bit of developer philosophy...

2008-09-26 Thread Chris Browet
Thanks to all for you insight. A consensus (-1) seem to exist to proceed, so I will. - Chris - ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev

Re: [OSM-dev] Paid services from OSM

2008-09-26 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Viernes, 26 de Septiembre de 2008, Julison escribió: Hi all, I'm not sure it this list is the correct place to post that question, but there it goes: No - the correct list is legal-talk, so please follow up the conversation there. I'm developing a traffic info service as a layer into

[OSM-dev] Advanced Routing Algorithms

2008-09-26 Thread Vojtech Brtnik
Hello, do you know any open library in C# (or other .NET lang., worse C++), that would implement some of the advanced routing algorithms?, for example: - reach-based routing (Gutman) - highway hierarchies (Sanders and Schultes) - transit-node routing - precomputed cluster distances . Thanks,

Re: [OSM-dev] Advanced Routing Algorithms

2008-09-26 Thread Marcus Wolschon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Vojtech Brtnik schrieb: Hello, do you know any open library in C# (or other .NET lang., worse C++), that would implement some of the advanced routing algorithms?, for example: - reach-based routing (Gutman) - highway hierarchies (Sanders and

Re: [OSM-dev] A bit of developer philosophy...

2008-09-26 Thread Joachim Zobel
Am Freitag, den 26.09.2008, 11:10 +0200 schrieb Frederik Ramm: My take is always that the users are grown-ups and responsible for their own actions. If there is something cool that would be useful for many legit purposes, then I'd always do it. [...] Just make sure you *tell* people that

Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-legal-talk] Paid services from OSM

2008-09-26 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: putting several layers together is not considered a derivative work but a collaborative work, collective Bye Frederik ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev

Re: [OSM-dev] osm2pgsql patch mode very slow.

2008-09-26 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
It works? I don't see how. Didn't it complain about not being able to find GIN indexes and thus not being usable for patches? Have a nice day, On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Steve Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 24 Sep 2008, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: What version of postgres? Are