[OSM-dev] CC-BY-SA datasources, display warning in editor?

2010-08-04 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, there are a number of data sources which have agreed to being used for CC-BY-SA licensed work but where it is not yet clear if data derived from them can be carried over once we change to ODbL. I'm thinking for example of Nearmap aerial imagery. It is possible that data being traced

Re: [OSM-dev] CC-BY-SA datasources, display warning in editor?

2010-08-04 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Wed, 4 Aug 2010, Frederik Ramm wrote: Otherwise people might just put in a lot of work for nothing. Obviously not true, since the data will be available in the CC-BY-SA output. Stefan ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-dev] CC-BY-SA datasources, display warning in editor?

2010-08-04 Thread John Smith
On 4 August 2010 19:31, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: On Wed, 4 Aug 2010, Frederik Ramm wrote: Otherwise people might just put in a lot of work for nothing. Obviously not true, since the data will be available in the CC-BY-SA output. They're still in breach of contract with

Re: [OSM-dev] CC-BY-SA datasources, display warning in editor?

2010-08-04 Thread John Smith
On 4 August 2010 19:54, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: Nobody is in breach with anything since *only* new mappers produce ODbL data. I'm not talking about the license, it's the new contributor terms that put new users in a breach of contract situation. The majority of Aussie users

[OSM-dev] Cartagen Knitter TMS, GeoTiff, can be used with JOSM

2010-08-04 Thread Jeffrey Warren
Hi all - I added a range of new publication options to the Cartagen Knitter software (http://cartagen.org/maps) yesterday, amongst them: - Output as high-resolution JPG and GeoTIFF - Output as TMS tile service for use in OpenLayers, etc. Therefore you can now use aerial images from balloons or

Re: [OSM-dev] CC-BY-SA datasources, display warning in editor?

2010-08-04 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 6:10 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 August 2010 19:54, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: Nobody is in breach with anything since *only* new mappers produce ODbL data. I'm not talking about the license, it's the new contributor terms that

[OSM-dev] troubles installing osm2pgsql on Mac OS X 10.6: make fail

2010-08-04 Thread Christopher Stevens
Hello gurus, While getting far into the installation process, I'm hung up when running the make command for osm2pgsql on Mac OS X10.6. My initial guess is that I have a library somewhere that's not being found or is not installed. I have no idea where to start. Here are the commands I'm running in

Re: [OSM-dev] CC-BY-SA datasources, display warning in editor?

2010-08-04 Thread John Smith
On 5 August 2010 00:15, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: Is Nearmap mixing any of our CC-BY-SA data with their aerials? If so, They have OSM map tile overlays, but I wouldn't call this mixing, any more than I'd call it mixing if you draw on a transparent overlay and then display another slide

[OSM-dev] licensing question

2010-08-04 Thread Jim Burt
Greetings, I'm interested in using OpenStreetMap for an internally facing website for my company (no public access). This is going to be a small app with very limited users and page views. I've reviewed the licensing, and this appears to be acceptable use. Can anyone confirm this? If this is

Re: [OSM-dev] licensing question

2010-08-04 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
On Wednesday 04 August 2010 23:55:03 Jim Burt wrote: I'm interested in using OpenStreetMap for an internally facing website for my company (no public access). This is going to be a small app with very limited users and page views. I've reviewed the licensing, and this appears to be acceptable

Re: [OSM-dev] licensing question

2010-08-04 Thread Jim Burt
Thanks. We'll definitely credit accordingly. Regards, Jim On 8/4/10, Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es wrote: On Wednesday 04 August 2010 23:55:03 Jim Burt wrote: I'm interested in using OpenStreetMap for an internally facing website for my company (no public access). This is going to

Re: [OSM-dev] New OSM binary fileformat implementation.

2010-08-04 Thread Brett Henderson
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Scott Crosby scro...@cs.rice.edu wrote: On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 6:39 AM, Brett Henderson br...@bretth.com wrote: I'll help incorporate this into the rest of Osmosis. There's a few things to work through though. I don't have a lot of time to work with

Re: [OSM-dev] troubles installing osm2pgsql on Mac OS X 10.6: make fail

2010-08-04 Thread Dane Springmeyer
Basically, you've got a mixing of osm2pgsql dependencies which are causing problems. Macports stuff are not built FAT (aka 32 and 64 bit), and to get this to work you would have had to to pass +universal to all your port install commands. I bet if you uninstall/remove macports you'll be all

Re: [josm-dev] JOSM and Java 6

2010-08-04 Thread Sebastian Klein
Dirk Stöcker wrote: Hello, according to a Trac ticket JOSM now finally used Java 6 functions. Could the one who did these changes please document the specific revision in the Startup page. The autosave feature [3378] by Jiri introduced Java 6 functions. So

Re: [josm-dev] Change to changeset comment handling, RfD

2010-08-04 Thread Frederik Ramm
Anthony, The way I like to think of this is: If you speak to another mapper later that day, and they ask you what you've been up to? and you answer them in one sentence - that's what you should put as a changeset comment. Sounds like a better place for that would be a diary entry. If

Re: [josm-dev] Change to changeset comment handling, RfD

2010-08-04 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 1:01 AM, Marko Mäkelä marko.mak...@iki.fi wrote: On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 08:08:56PM -0400, Anthony wrote: The quality of my own changeset comments is absolutely irrelevant in this discussion; let's assume, if it gives you pleasure, that they are all just That might

Re: [josm-dev] Change to changeset comment handling, RfD

2010-08-04 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 4:26 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Arguably, the changeset comment could be split up in a number of individual tags. Currently, people use it for different things - they say something about the source, about their method, about where they worked, about why

Re: [josm-dev] Change to changeset comment handling, RfD

2010-08-04 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Anthony wrote: So do I... I just think it's unrealistic to expect it every time. It is also unrealistic to expect good OSM data edits every time. Still it's good if people try, and good if the software helps them with it. IMO the job of the software should be to make sure the person

Re: [josm-dev] Change to changeset comment handling, RfD

2010-08-04 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: It is also unrealistic to expect good OSM data edits every time. Still it's good if people try, and good if the software helps them with it. Agreed. IMO the job of the software should be to make sure the person knows

Re: [josm-dev] Change to changeset comment handling, RfD

2010-08-04 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Wed, 4 Aug 2010, Anthony wrote: And it is something that should be consistent across different editors. Actually this is nothing we need to worry about. JOSM is still settings the standards here. We have 50% of the market. Potlatch the remaining 50%. The other editors don't really count

Re: [josm-dev] Change to changeset comment handling, RfD

2010-08-04 Thread Sebastian Klein
Dirk Stöcker wrote: On Wed, 4 Aug 2010, Anthony wrote: And it is something that should be consistent across different editors. Actually this is nothing we need to worry about. JOSM is still settings the standards here. We have 50% of the market. Potlatch the remaining 50%. The other

Re: [josm-dev] Change to changeset comment handling, RfD

2010-08-04 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Wed, 4 Aug 2010, Sebastian Klein wrote: Actually this is nothing we need to worry about. JOSM is still settings the standards here. We have 50% of the market. Potlatch the remaining 50%. The other editors don't really count at all ATM. Don't forget Merkaartor! It has a fair amount of