Re: [OSM-dev] Ponderings about an improved tagging scheme

2009-02-20 Thread G H S
Is there something we're overlooking about the current scheme? You're perfectly right, the current scheme can't possibly work. Ever! Did you get the impression that someone said that? _ Windows Liveā„¢: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get

Re: [OSM-dev] Ponderings about an improved tagging scheme

2009-02-20 Thread Jochen Topf
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 02:18:04AM +, G H S wrote: What Steve has proposed is what I would have expected. I can already see adding a natural type, so I added a quick one to his page. Objekts in the real world can't neatly be categorized into types. The world is much more complicated than

[OSM-dev] Ponderings about an improved tagging scheme

2009-02-20 Thread G H S
Hi Jochen. Objekts in the real world can't neatly be categorized into types. The world is much more complicated than this. So OSM has a different approach: We just have attributes of objects called tags. Tags tell you *something about* an object, but they don't tell you what it *is*. Or, if

Re: [OSM-dev] Ponderings about an improved tagging scheme

2009-02-20 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:24:55 +, G H S tiosan...@hotmail.com wrote: Well, I'm not sure that the kind of objects found on a map can't be categorized by a sufficiently flexible system. Like * objects belonging to multiple types? * different ways of categorizing the same information?

Re: [OSM-dev] Ponderings about an improved tagging scheme

2009-02-20 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Frederik Ramm wrote: Sent: 20 February 2009 1:48 AM To: Steve Hill Cc: dev@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] Ponderings about an improved tagging scheme Hi, Steve Hill wrote: Your concept is utterly unworkable of course with the current software landscape, Would you like to explain

Re: [OSM-dev] Ponderings about an improved tagging scheme

2009-02-20 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Jochen Topf wrote: Sent: 20 February 2009 8:41 AM To: G H S Cc: dev@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] Ponderings about an improved tagging scheme On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 02:18:04AM +, G H S wrote: What Steve has proposed is what I would have expected. I can already see adding

Re: [OSM-dev] Ponderings about an improved tagging scheme

2009-02-20 Thread Steve Hill
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009, marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com wrote: Well, I'm not sure that the kind of objects found on a map can't be categorized by a sufficiently flexible system. Like * objects belonging to multiple types? This was already covered by the proposal (and is indeed one of the

Re: [OSM-dev] Ponderings about an improved tagging scheme

2009-02-20 Thread Matthias Julius
Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrli...@googlemail.com writes: Frederik Ramm wrote: Sent: 20 February 2009 1:48 AM To: Steve Hill Cc: dev@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] Ponderings about an improved tagging scheme Hi, Steve Hill wrote: Your concept is utterly unworkable of course

[OSM-dev] Ponderings about an improved tagging scheme

2009-02-19 Thread Steve Hill
I've been thinking about ways to improve the way objects are tagged in OSM - for a long time I've seen some problems with the way we currently tag things, and I finally got around to writing down some of my thoughts on the subject. I wouldn't mind some feedback on my ideas:

Re: [OSM-dev] Ponderings about an improved tagging scheme

2009-02-19 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Steve Hill wrote: I've been thinking about ways to improve the way objects are tagged in OSM - for a long time I've seen some problems with the way we currently tag things, and I finally got around to writing down some of my thoughts on the subject. I *had* been wondering; we had the

Re: [OSM-dev] Ponderings about an improved tagging scheme

2009-02-19 Thread Steve Hill
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009, Frederik Ramm wrote: Your concept is utterly unworkable of course with the current software landscape, Would you like to explain why it is utterly unworkable? Instead of having a geometric object with some properties, we instead think of objects with some properties

[OSM-dev] Ponderings about an improved tagging scheme

2009-02-19 Thread G H S
I'm just getting started here, so I don't want to offend any founding members or dredge up a well beaten horse... BUT Just looking through the data and some example tags, I was baffled as to how the tags could be used effectively and consistently as they stand today. They seem to have

Re: [OSM-dev] Ponderings about an improved tagging scheme

2009-02-19 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, G H S wrote: Is there something we're overlooking about the current scheme? You're perfectly right, the current scheme can't possibly work. Ever! Hold on, what's that... a map you say? From OSM data? Impossible ;-) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ##