Re: [OSM-dev] Altitude data

2008-12-08 Thread Stefan Baebler
Some nodes have altitiude (or alt) tag if the altitude is well known (mountain peaks etc) as vertical precision of GPS is so inaccurate. You can convert srtm data into OSM vector contours with http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Srtm2Osm A general page about visualizing relief (including other

[OSM-dev] Altitude data

2008-12-08 Thread Philip Fitzsimons
Hi, In terms of altitude information, am I correct in thinking that integrating the SRTM data (http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/srtm/) is the accepted approach to creating altitude based maps? I have seen key=altitude in some of the OSM data, but not comprehensively. Is there a SRTM enhanced version

Re: [OSM-dev] Altitude data

2008-12-08 Thread Karl Newman
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:22 AM, Philip Fitzsimons [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, In terms of altitude information, am I correct in thinking that integrating the SRTM data (http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/srtm/) is the accepted approach to creating altitude based maps? I have seen key=altitude in

Re: [OSM-dev] Altitude data (cycle) route profiles

2008-04-07 Thread Steve Hill
On Sun, 6 Apr 2008, Sjors Provoost wrote: 1 - import SRTM data for (part of) Australia 2 - write several algorithms to estimate the height of any given coordinate (server side), using original STRM grid 3 - display (on the fly) an altitude profile given a route (a sequence of nodes). Drawing

Re: [OSM-dev] Altitude data (cycle) route profiles

2008-04-07 Thread Sjors Provoost
Steve Hill wrote: Initially I would like to use Gnuplot for the visualization, because it is simple to use. However, if time permits, I would like to generate the profile plot client side and more fancy. The client will simply receive a list of (x,y) coordinates from the server. ISTR

Re: [OSM-dev] Altitude data (cycle) route profiles

2008-04-06 Thread Steve Hill
Sjors Provoost wrote: (Much of the below has already been said by other people, but I thought I should express my views) 2 - estimate the altitude of each node (point) in Australia from the neighboring SRTM points Remember to put a source tag on the data (maybe we need a source:ele tag

Re: [OSM-dev] Altitude data (cycle) route profiles

2008-04-06 Thread Sjors Provoost
Hi Steve, Thanks for your long reply. Sjors Provoost wrote: 2 - estimate the altitude of each node (point) in Australia from the neighboring SRTM points Remember to put a source tag on the data (maybe we need a source:ele tag instead to show only the elevation data came from SRTM?) I

Re: [OSM-dev] Altitude data (cycle) route profiles

2008-04-06 Thread Andy Allan
On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Sjors Provoost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking about entering as a user with a name like 'SRTM-bot', Sjors, I urge you as strongly as I can - please DO NOT put SRTM-derived height data into the OSM database. One solution I can think of is to

Re: [OSM-dev] Altitude data (cycle) route profiles

2008-04-06 Thread Steve Hill
Sjors Provoost wrote: There was a lot of discussion about this issue and good arguments against my solution, which is why I included step 4: to apply different methods and compare them. I've now included real time calculation of altitude from SRTM data. I don't think you have explained what

Re: [OSM-dev] Altitude data (cycle) route profiles

2008-04-06 Thread Sjors Provoost
Andy wrote: I urge you as strongly as I can - please DO NOT put SRTM-derived height data into the OSM database. And Steve wrote: I don't think you have explained what the benefits of your solution are? What is the benefit of including this data in the OSM database rather than having a

Re: [OSM-dev] Altitude data (cycle) route profiles

2008-04-05 Thread Sjors Provoost
Hello everyone, Thank you for all the feedback and discussion about my proposal. It seems clear to me that I should consider several approaches for incorporating altitude data. It also became clear to me that using the GPS data is probably not a good idea. I have made several changes to my

Re: [OSM-dev] Altitude data (cycle) route profiles

2008-03-31 Thread Robert Vollmert
On Mar 31, 2008, at 12:00, Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote: Also as a civil engineer I can see some merit in having elevation data for physical objects in the database. However, we don't really have a good way of collecting data that is remotely accurate to the level at which it

Re: [OSM-dev] Altitude data (cycle) route profiles

2008-03-31 Thread Sjors Provoost
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Robert Vollmert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 31, 2008, at 12:00, Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote: Also as a civil engineer I can see some merit in having elevation data for physical objects in the database. However, we don't really have a good

Re: [OSM-dev] Altitude data (cycle) route profiles

2008-03-31 Thread MilesTogoe
Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote: Sjors Provoost wrote: Sent: 30 March 2008 12:06 PM To: MilesTogoe Cc: dev@openstreetmap.org; Karl Newman Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] Altitude data (cycle) route profiles On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 3:14 PM, MilesTogoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frederik

Re: [OSM-dev] Altitude data (cycle) route profiles

2008-03-31 Thread Lambertus
Robert Vollmert wrote: Not sure how common they are, but there's some GPS units with built-in barometer (Garmin Etrex Vista HCX at least). The data they provide should be good enough to be useful. Those sensors need calibration against a known point and can give a huge offset when

Re: [OSM-dev] Altitude data (cycle) route profiles

2008-03-31 Thread MilesTogoe
Lambertus wrote: Robert Vollmert wrote: Not sure how common they are, but there's some GPS units with built-in barometer (Garmin Etrex Vista HCX at least). The data they provide should be good enough to be useful. Those sensors need calibration against a known point and can

Re: [OSM-dev] Altitude data (cycle) route profiles

2008-03-31 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
From: MilesTogoe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sent: 31 March 2008 3:40 PM To: Andy Robinson (blackadder) Cc: 'Sjors Provoost'; dev@openstreetmap.org; 'Karl Newman' Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] Altitude data (cycle) route profiles what is the accuracy on regular GPS elevation ? +- ? Here

Re: [OSM-dev] Altitude data (cycle) route profiles

2008-03-31 Thread Karl Newman
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Andy Robinson (blackadder) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: MilesTogoe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sent: 31 March 2008 3:40 PM To: Andy Robinson (blackadder) Cc: 'Sjors Provoost'; dev@openstreetmap.org; 'Karl Newman' Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] Altitude data

Re: [OSM-dev] Altitude data (cycle) route profiles

2008-03-28 Thread Andy Allan
2008/3/27 Sjors Provoost [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My core objectives / deliverables are: import SRTM data as nodes (points) in OSM, for Australia estimate the altitude of each node in Australia from the SRTM nodes display (on the fly) an altitude profile given a route (a sequence of nodes)

Re: [OSM-dev] Altitude data (cycle) route profiles

2008-03-28 Thread Karl Newman
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Andy Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/3/27 Sjors Provoost [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My core objectives / deliverables are: import SRTM data as nodes (points) in OSM, for Australia estimate the altitude of each node in Australia from the SRTM nodes display

Re: [OSM-dev] Altitude data (cycle) route profiles

2008-03-27 Thread Sjors Provoost
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:20 PM, Sjors Provoost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, I would to participatie in the Google Summer of Code and contribute to OpenStreetMap. There are several projects on the wiki that I consider interesting, but I'll start with asking some questions about the