Re: [OSM-dev] amazon AMIs for a full blown openstreetmap.org-like server

2010-01-17 Thread Jonathan-David SCHRODER
Hello, 1) I had a long chat with James Mike about his project. we basically have a same idea of a osm-inputoutput, tiles-from-stored-osm-output machine image as to the outer interfaces. a) James Mike wants osm inputoutput in git (sftp access) or later some very light webservice (not the rails

Re: [OSM-dev] amazon AMIs for a full blown openstreetmap.org-like server

2010-01-08 Thread Jonathan-David SCHRODER
Hello, Please tell me if I'm replicating any initiative or doing something the wrong or a not-so-good way. I've started this week from an EBS backed (or boot) Ubuntu 8.04 image ami-f6ad409f. I agree to give the .pem file for ssh connection to an instance to anyone willing to collaborate. My

Re: [OSM-dev] amazon AMIs for a full blown openstreetmap.org-like server

2010-01-08 Thread Emilie Laffray
2010/1/8 Jonathan-David SCHRODER jonathan.schro...@gmail.com Hello, Please tell me if I'm replicating any initiative or doing something the wrong or a not-so-good way. I've started this week from an EBS backed (or boot) Ubuntu 8.04 image ami-f6ad409f. I agree to give the .pem file for ssh

Re: [OSM-dev] amazon AMIs for a full blown openstreetmap.org-like server

2010-01-08 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
I would like to have an account. We could try out some ideas for replacing the database with a lot of small files. mike On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/1/8 Jonathan-David SCHRODER jonathan.schro...@gmail.com Hello, Please tell me if I'm

Re: [OSM-dev] amazon AMIs for a full blown openstreetmap.org-like server

2010-01-08 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
I have been working on c++ code with rtrees and other nice things. depending on what you want to do with it, I think it is fair to make updates very slow if the rendering is very fast... mike On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: Op 08-01-10 13:49,

Re: [OSM-dev] amazon AMIs for a full blown openstreetmap.org-like server

2010-01-08 Thread Stefan de Konink
Now both to list. Op 08-01-10 14:53, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com schreef: On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Stefan de Koninkste...@konink.de wrote: Op 08-01-10 14:46, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com schreef: I have been working on c++ code with rtrees and other nice things. depending on

Re: [OSM-dev] amazon AMIs for a full blown openstreetmap.org-like server

2010-01-08 Thread Stefan de Konink
Op 08-01-10 15:09, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com schreef: I dont know all the details of mapnik, but from what I have seen, using the postgres database is not needed in all cases. I am thinking about It is not required to use the database, but the overhead is in the rendering. I do agree

Re: [OSM-dev] amazon AMIs for a full blown openstreetmap.org-like server

2010-01-08 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: Op 08-01-10 15:09, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com schreef: I dont know all the details of mapnik, but from what I have seen, using the postgres database is not needed in all cases. I am thinking about It is not required

Re: [OSM-dev] amazon AMIs for a full blown openstreetmap.org-like server

2010-01-08 Thread Stefan de Konink
Op 08-01-10 15:39, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com schreef: Tiny would have to be an osmtile in binary format, agreed? Yes, well if you sort the data properly then mapnik would just render the data in a sax callback, right? Jup, but you will never get better results of that storing in parts

Re: [OSM-dev] amazon AMIs for a full blown openstreetmap.org-like server

2010-01-08 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
Ok, well I am going to first work on making the mapnik be able to render an osm file standalone without postgis, will report back when that works. mike On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: Op 08-01-10 15:39, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com schreef: Tiny would

Re: [OSM-dev] amazon AMIs for a full blown openstreetmap.org-like server

2010-01-08 Thread Lennard
jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Ok, well I am going to first work on making the mapnik be able to render an osm file standalone without postgis, will report back when that works. *cough* http://trac.mapnik.org/browser/trunk/plugins/input/osm Will not work with the postgis-based

Re: [OSM-dev] amazon AMIs for a full blown openstreetmap.org-like server

2010-01-08 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
So this renderes directly from an osm file? On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Lennard l...@xs4all.nl wrote: jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Ok, well I am going to first work on making the mapnik be able to render an osm file standalone without postgis, will report back when that works.

Re: [OSM-dev] amazon AMIs for a full blown openstreetmap.org-like server

2010-01-08 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapnik#Data_Sources This webpage only talkes about posgis, is there any documentation that covers the osm direct rendering? mike On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 4:08 PM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: So this renderes directly from

Re: [OSM-dev] amazon AMIs for a full blown openstreetmap.org-like server

2010-01-08 Thread Dane Springmeyer
On Jan 8, 2010, at 7:19 AM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapnik#Data_Sources This webpage only talkes about posgis, is there any documentation that covers the osm direct rendering? http://trac.mapnik.org/wiki/OsmPlugin

Re: [OSM-dev] amazon AMIs for a full blown openstreetmap.org-like server

2010-01-08 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
Ok, this looks great. So, now, that would be my suggestion to use on this amazon webservice. A lot of small osm files, the size of the smallest tile. Now, on thing did occur to me while walking the dog, we could render multiple zoom levels at once. Every time you render the smallest unit (tile)