Re: [OSM-dev] Call to mobile developers: OSM binary file format

2008-08-08 Thread Jan Peter Stotz
Chris Browet wrote: We all have the same problem: the XML OSM format is not efficient for mobile devices. For the time being, we all develop our own solution to transform the XML in whatever binary format suitable for a mobile application, often forcing the user to use a specific desktop

Re: [OSM-dev] Call to mobile developers: OSM binary file format

2008-08-08 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008, Jan Peter Stotz wrote: May be WAP WAP Binary XML (WBXML) encoding [1] would be a possible solution? It significantly reduces the size of data to be transfered while keeping the compatibility to the current data format. The transportation could be still HTTP or a different

Re: [OSM-dev] Call to mobile developers: OSM binary file format

2008-08-08 Thread Marcus Wolschon
On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:17:58 +0200, Jan Peter Stotz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Browet wrote: We all have the same problem: the XML OSM format is not efficient for mobile devices. For the time being, we all develop our own solution to transform the XML in whatever binary format suitable

Re: [OSM-dev] Call to mobile developers: OSM binary file format

2008-08-08 Thread Chris Browet
A binary XML format would be better to parse for an XML processor. But OSM data is pretty structured. The point is that for line transfers a pretty efficient format can be choosen that is totally unparsible by embedded devices. The actual transfer is pretty much irrelevant here. The goal

Re: [OSM-dev] Call to mobile developers: OSM binary file format

2008-08-08 Thread Marcus Wolschon
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 10:34:54 +0200 (CEST), Stefan de Konink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A binary XML format would be better to parse for an XML processor. But OSM data is pretty structured. The point is that for line transfers a pretty efficient format can be choosen that is totally unparsible

Re: [OSM-dev] Call to mobile developers: OSM binary file format

2008-08-08 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008, Chris Browet wrote: As for myself, I prefer to keep all information because I'm not focused on routing as others. But I suppose compromise will have to be made. Invent the following format. mmap your program structures to a file, sync and save it. Distribute. It will be

Re: [OSM-dev] Call to mobile developers: OSM binary file format

2008-08-08 Thread Chris Browet
May be WAP WAP Binary XML (WBXML) encoding [1] would be a possible solution? It significantly reduces the size of data to be transfered while keeping the compatibility to the current data format. The transportation could be still HTTP or a different binary protocol with a higher

Re: [OSM-dev] Call to mobile developers: OSM binary file format

2008-08-08 Thread Rob
don't forget looking at the gosmore [1] data format [2] it does routing and rendering [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Gosmore [2] http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg00112.html ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-dev] What is the linux Distribution for OSM Dev Server

2008-08-08 Thread Tom Hughes
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Roberto Navoni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an a question. What's the better distribution of linux to use for install Osm Server Localy. I try to use Ubunto but I have some problem to install Ruby. Well all our rails machines are now running (or will

[OSM-dev] Wiki-Page for defining OSM binary file format created

2008-08-08 Thread Marcus Wolschon
Hello everyone, as this discussion on osm-dev seems to get very unfocused I created a wiki-page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/OSM_Mobile_Binary_Format for such a data-format. So we can organize our thoughts on the topic and together make this happen. If anyone does not agree with the

Re: [OSM-dev] [Routing] Wiki-Page for defining OSM binary file format created

2008-08-08 Thread Chris Browet
2008/8/8 Marcus Wolschon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello everyone, as this discussion on osm-dev seems to get very unfocused I created a wiki-page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/OSM_Mobile_Binary_Format for such a data-format. So we can organize our thoughts on the topic and together

Re: [OSM-dev] [Routing] Wiki-Page for defining OSM binary file format created

2008-08-08 Thread Doru Julian Bugariu
Marcus Wolschon schrieb: as this discussion on osm-dev seems to get very unfocused I created a wiki-page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/OSM_Mobile_Binary_Format for such a data-format. So we can organize our thoughts on the topic and together make this happen. What about

Re: [OSM-dev] [Routing] Wiki-Page for defining OSM binary file format created

2008-08-08 Thread Doru Julian Bugariu
Chris Browet schrieb: You should also have read the second paragraph... The page Marcus is speaking about in the 2nd paragraph is the one you're referencing... A network protocol is quite different from a storage format... Sure, but there is also a reference to

[OSM-dev] Beginner questions about mod_tile

2008-08-08 Thread Jaume Figueras
Hi, I'm trying to set up a map server using mod_tile, when editing the render_config.h file to fit my directory hierarchy there are some parameters I don't success to understand: 1.- IMG_PATH: 'grep'-ing all mod_tile files lead that IMG_PATH is only defined in render_config.h and is never

[OSM-dev] Rendering: 2 questions.

2008-08-08 Thread Rogier Wolff
Hi, I was considering volunteering some of my machines for tiles at home, but the readme told me that it required up to a gigabyte of RAM. As Linux doesn't allow me to tell the OS to only run that program if I don't need the RAM for other stuff, that's just too much, so I can't participate.

[OSM-dev] Question about Calculating Radius from GPS cord

2008-08-08 Thread Fire Girl
I am working with OSM data, and would like to be able to spec out 5 mile bounding boxes from certain GPS points. After research into this problem, I am to understand that each degree of latitude is approximately 69 miles (111 kilometers) apart with a slight variance (68.703 - 69.407 miles)

Re: [OSM-dev] Question about Calculating Radius from GPS cord

2008-08-08 Thread David Earl
On 08/08/2008 14:30, Fire Girl wrote: I am working with OSM data, and would like to be able to spec out 5 mile bounding boxes from certain GPS points. After research into this problem, I am to understand that each degree of latitude is approximately 69 miles (111 kilometers) apart with a

Re: [OSM-dev] Please publish the current db schema

2008-08-08 Thread Joachim Zobel
Am Donnerstag, den 07.08.2008, 23:32 +0200 schrieb Frederik Ramm: Tom Hughes wrote: The schema is fully defined by the rails migrations which are publically available in subversion. Or use Brett Henderson's ready made schema dump: http://gweb.bretth.com/osm_schema_latest.sql

Re: [OSM-dev] Question about Calculating Radius from GPS cord

2008-08-08 Thread Milo van der Linden
Since all of these calculations are planar and near estimates, perhaps it would be good to use libraries that particularly cope with geospatial operations perhaps GOES might be a good starting point: http://trac.osgeo.org/geos/ Kind regards, Milo Don't reinvent wheels, make beautiful cars!

Re: [OSM-dev] Question about Calculating Radius from GPS cord

2008-08-08 Thread Fire Girl
Hi Rogier, I wanted to try this forumla out. Could you possibly help me by spelling out the formula in more word terms, like i.e. Take initial latitude number, and divide it by X then divide that by the cosign of the XX ... which should result in XYZ something like that. Basically I hope to

Re: [OSM-dev] Question about Calculating Radius from GPS cord

2008-08-08 Thread Fire Girl
I think I am following you! :) Here is the math I have so far Calculation: 5 miles of: 45.5 latitude and: 25.5 longitude --- so, for the latitude, (i.e. add and subtract 2.5/69ths of a degree of latitude) With 5 miles assumed, and using that forumla, the

Re: [OSM-dev] Please publish the current db schema

2008-08-08 Thread m*sh
Am Fr, 8.08.2008, 16:23, schrieb Joachim Zobel: Or use Brett Henderson's ready made schema dump: http://gweb.bretth.com/osm_schema_latest.sql Unfortunately this is not really the latest. At least it does not have relations. To me it looks like it has relations

Re: [OSM-dev] Question about Calculating Radius from GPS cord

2008-08-08 Thread Rogier Wolff
On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 11:02:15AM -0500, Fire Girl wrote: I think I am following you! :) Here is the math I have so far Calculation: 5 miles I'm assuming radius, not diameter. So we'll get a ~10mile square. of: 45.5 latitude and: 25.5 longitude Note that Milo thinks this is

Re: [OSM-dev] Beginner questions about mod_tile

2008-08-08 Thread Jon Burgess
On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 12:26 +0200, Jaume Figueras wrote: Hi, I'm trying to set up a map server using mod_tile, when editing the render_config.h file to fit my directory hierarchy there are some parameters I don't success to understand: 1.- IMG_PATH: 'grep'-ing all mod_tile files lead

Re: [OSM-dev] Question about Calculating Radius from GPS cord

2008-08-08 Thread Fire Girl
Rogier (and David too :) This is quite exciting. Based on this, I think I can formulate something. Thank you for making me understand. have a great day !! ~~ - Original Message - From: Rogier Wolff To: Fire Girl Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] Question about Calculating Radius from

Re: [josm-dev] Bug-fixing

2008-08-08 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Thu, 7 Aug 2008, Pieren wrote: I can verify some of them. But you should explain how to proceed. Shall we add a comment in the tracker entry saying e.g. Yes, I checked this and it is still an issue ? Still exists in Rev xxx Could not verify in Rev xxx Requires following to be reproduced