[OSM-dev] OSM Fixer [2009-04-07]

2009-04-06 Thread Stefan de Konink
Relations: 108213 Ways: (* = wrong delete sequence, never exported as deleted) 11078370 * 27938082 32277509 * 32709279 * 32709343 * 32709354 * 32709359 * 32709360 * 32709397 * 32720156 * 32813939 * 32828133 32843076 32843303 32846607 32848957 32850436 32852058 32853640 32856292 32860854 32861163

Re: [OSM-dev] [josm-dev] JOSM version detect

2009-04-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/4/6 Frederik Ramm : > If you find any strangeness regarding server up-/download on josm-latest > in the next few days, send me a quick e-mail and I'll investigate. not sure if this issue is connected: JOSM 1523 not uploading: "transfer aborted due to error: java.io.IOException:Server returne

Re: [OSM-dev] ANNOUNCE: OpenStreetMap maps will be added to Wikimedia projects

2009-04-06 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Erik Johansson wrote: > True, but how do you acommodate these kinds of requests. As you say > they are common, and that's probably because the osm servers are > probably the best open source way for storing, editing and visualizing > this kind of data.. I was saying there's no such thing as "

Re: [OSM-dev] Please advise; I really don't get how this can corrupt so badly

2009-04-06 Thread Matt Amos
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Ed Loach wrote: > "The current schedule foresees the final magnet being reinstalled by > the end of March 2009, with the LHC being cold and ready for > powering tests by the end of June 2009." LHC 0.6... weird ;-) cheers, matt ___

Re: [OSM-dev] relation-browser broken

2009-04-06 Thread Maarten Deen
marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com wrote: > http://osm.schunterscouts.de/relation-browser.php?type=relation&id=31495 > > (as linked to by > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Germany/Bundesstra%C3%9Fen) > > gives: > > hide tags | show tags > Warning: fopen(http://api.openstreetmap.org/a

Re: [OSM-dev] Please advise; I really don't get how this can corrupt so badly

2009-04-06 Thread Ed Loach
> it might. i'm sure i can think up a semi-plausible situation > involving > scientists at CERN being so frustrated with the broken > relations they > don't notice that LHC is creating a massive black-hole. ;-) They won't have restarted it since the repairs within the next two weeks. From http://p

Re: [OSM-dev] ANNOUNCE: OpenStreetMap maps will be added to Wikimedia projects

2009-04-06 Thread Erik Johansson
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Erik Johansson wrote: >> >> illustrating all flight paths >> over Europe > > This particular one keeps popping up all the time but there is no such > thing. True, but how do you acommodate these kinds of requests. As you say they are common,

Re: [OSM-dev] JOSM: Several tags with same key

2009-04-06 Thread Stefan de Konink
Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: > Well, maybe if you explain what that means I can respond ;-) Currently the editor or the server decides what the user sees; I can imagine that in the 'data is present' way it is far more easy to delete or update a value that is in unique(k,v) format than

Re: [OSM-dev] Please advise; I really don't get how this can corrupt so badly

2009-04-06 Thread Matt Amos
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Dave Stubbs wrote: > So I'd just wait two weeks. It's not going to cause the world to end > in the meantime. it might. i'm sure i can think up a semi-plausible situation involving scientists at CERN being so frustrated with the broken relations they don't notice th

Re: [OSM-dev] JOSM: Several tags with same key

2009-04-06 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
>-Original Message- >From: Stefan de Konink [mailto:ste...@konink.de] >Sent: 06 April 2009 9:52 AM >To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) >Cc: 'Pierre-André Jacquod'; 'Matt Amos'; dev@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] JOSM: Several tags with same key > >Andy Robinson (blackadder-li

Re: [OSM-dev] JOSM: Several tags with same key

2009-04-06 Thread Matt Amos
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 8:06 AM, wrote: > On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 20:09:40 +0100, Matt Amos wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Marcus Wolschon >> wrote: >>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Matt Amos wrote: maybe what we need is an "amenities" tag specifically for multiple co-located

Re: [OSM-dev] Please advise; I really don't get how this can corrupt so badly

2009-04-06 Thread Dave Stubbs
2009/4/6 Stefan de Konink : > On Mon, 6 Apr 2009, Dave Stubbs wrote: > >> Anyway, Shaun refactored the whole lot for API 0.6. It now atomically >> checks relation consistency within the rails models when doing an >> update rather than relying on the caller to do it. So this should be >> fixed in a

Re: [OSM-dev] Please advise; I really don't get how this can corrupt so badly

2009-04-06 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Mon, 6 Apr 2009, Dave Stubbs wrote: > Anyway, Shaun refactored the whole lot for API 0.6. It now atomically > checks relation consistency within the rails models when doing an > update rather than relying on the caller to do it. So this should be > fixed in a couple of weeks a long with everyth

[OSM-dev] TMC: need comments on import-algorithm

2009-04-06 Thread marcus.wolschon
Hello, on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TMC/TMC_Import_Germany#automatic_import I sketched out an algorithm for doing the import of the TMC road-network into OpenStreetMap. Can some of you please have a look at it? Especially the cases when relations for streets are not present in OSM. (I

Re: [OSM-dev] Please advise; I really don't get how this can corrupt so badly

2009-04-06 Thread Dave Stubbs
2009/4/6 Richard Fairhurst : > Stefan de Konink wrote: > >> Now how is it possible that there was no 415 on that update? > > I'm going to pass on this one as I didn't write the Potlatch > relations code, Dave did - any thoughts? > I'm guessing that's here: http://trac.openstreetmap.org/browser/si

[OSM-dev] relation-browser broken

2009-04-06 Thread marcus.wolschon
http://osm.schunterscouts.de/relation-browser.php?type=relation&id=31495 (as linked to by http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Germany/Bundesstra%C3%9Fen) gives: hide tags | show tags Warning: fopen(http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.5/relation/31495/full) [function.fopen]: failed to

Re: [OSM-dev] JOSM: Several tags with same key

2009-04-06 Thread Pieren
2009/4/6 Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) > For mappers we need the simplest quickest way of entering the data, and this > works for us. I don’t really care if that makes it more difficult to process > the data in the database, that’s not important while building the database > of data. +200 Pier

Re: [OSM-dev] JOSM: Several tags with same key

2009-04-06 Thread Stefan de Konink
Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: > For mappers we need the simplest quickest way of entering the data, and this > works for us. I don’t really care if that makes it more difficult to process > the data in the database, that’s not important while building the database > of data. Would dynami

Re: [OSM-dev] JOSM: Several tags with same key

2009-04-06 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
If you look at other keys you will find wider use of the semi colon. At the moment for instance the OSMers in the west midlands are hitting bus stops hard and we are using the route_ref=45;56;78;905;907;998A;998C format. I started out many moons ago using a pipe to separate values but realised late

Re: [OSM-dev] Please advise; I really don't get how this can corrupt so badly

2009-04-06 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Stefan de Konink wrote: > Now how is it possible that there was no 415 on that update? I'm going to pass on this one as I didn't write the Potlatch relations code, Dave did - any thoughts? cheers Richard ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org ht

[OSM-dev] Please advise; I really don't get how this can corrupt so badly

2009-04-06 Thread Stefan de Konink
I really want to understand this; and to my intel transactions of such amount of time are just not bound to fail, looking at the timestamp. http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.5/way/28366538/history http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.5/relation/108258/history Alpinfuchs deleted way 28366538 at 20

[OSM-dev] OSM Fixer [2009-04-06]

2009-04-06 Thread Stefan de Konink
Relations: 67028 108258 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev

Re: [OSM-dev] JOSM: Several tags with same key

2009-04-06 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 20:09:40 +0100, Matt Amos wrote: > On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Marcus Wolschon > wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Matt Amos wrote: >>> maybe what we need is an "amenities" tag specifically for multiple >>> co-located amenities? >> >> I strongly disagree. >> That i