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[osmosis-dev] Build failed in Hudson: Osmosis #33

2009-04-18 Thread brett
See http://www.bretth.com/hudson/job/Osmosis/33/

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Re: [OSM-dev] Bittorrent

2009-04-18 Thread D Tucny
2009/4/18 Simon Ward si...@bleah.co.uk

 On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 08:23:19AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
  Stefan de Konink wrote:
   After a few upload problems, a new torrent is available.
  
   http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Planet.osm#Bittorrent
 
  Not to nitpick, but in terms of PR, might it be better to use a tracker
  other than The Pirate Bay?

 Selfish and wrong.  It may even help TPB if more high profile projects
 used their tracker for (legal) distribution.

 In terms of PR it could also be seen how an “open” data project
 abandoned an effective method of distributing open data.  If TPB’s
 appeal fails, it sets a bad precedent for any other tracker out there.


TPB is unreachable from here, it's been blocked for a long time... As such,
it's not very effective for me, or all the other people in the world who
find it blocked for them, and there are quite a lot... This is thanks to the
negative PR that TPB already has... They've never helped themselves in this
regard... If anything, TPB has done bad PR for BitTorrent, an open protocol
and open source implementation developed for the efficient distribution of
large datasets and now in common perception, a tool to enable one to easily
obtain copyrighted materials...

BitTorrent can be an effective method of distributing open data and setting
up a tracker for a project isn't a massive job, other open projects may well
be willing to share a tracker, which reduces that overhead... The way that
BitTorrent works, you don't need to use the biggest, most popular tracker,
you just need to have all the people wanting to share the file being able to
connect to the same one/s...

So anyway, in short, I agree with Paul, both from the PR point of view and
from the point of view that hosting it on TPB make it useless to me...

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Re: [OSM-dev] Bittorrent

2009-04-18 Thread Stefan de Konink
D Tucny wrote:
 TPB is unreachable from here, it's been blocked for a long time... 

So? What are you waiting for? Complain at your ISP, Government, that you 
are censored and you don't accept that.


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Re: [OSM-dev] Bittorrent

2009-04-18 Thread Erik Johansson
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 8:50 AM, D Tucny d...@tucny.com wrote:
 2009/4/18 Simon Ward si...@bleah.co.uk

 On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 08:23:19AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
  Stefan de Konink wrote:
   After a few upload problems, a new torrent is available.
  
   http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Planet.osm#Bittorrent
 
  Not to nitpick, but in terms of PR, might it be better to use a tracker
  other than The Pirate Bay?

 Selfish and wrong.  It may even help TPB if more high profile projects
 used their tracker for (legal) distribution.

 In terms of PR it could also be seen how an “open” data project
 abandoned an effective method of distributing open data.  If TPB’s
 appeal fails, it sets a bad precedent for any other tracker out there.
[..]
 If anything, TPB has done bad PR for BitTorrent, an open protocol
 and open source implementation developed for the efficient distribution of
 large datasets and now in common perception, a tool to enable one to easily
 obtain copyrighted materials...

 BitTorrent can be an effective method of distributing open data and setting
 up a tracker for a project isn't a massive job,
´
Tell us of  an tracker that your government has deemed politically
correct, you can add this torrent file to that tracker yourself.. Use
Open DNS servers:  208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220  if you need to
access The Pirate bay.

Getting the planet in 15MB/s makes not having it locally easier.

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Re: [OSM-dev] Bittorrent

2009-04-18 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Sábado, 18 de Abril de 2009, D Tucny escribió:
   Not to nitpick, but in terms of PR, might it be better to use a tracker
   other than The Pirate Bay?
[...]
 TPB is unreachable from here, it's been blocked for a long time...

So? Set up a .torrent file with *multiple* trackers, one being TPB, one being 
your favourite government-approved one.

I fail to see any reasons to not use TPB's trackers.

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Re: [OSM-dev] Bittorrent

2009-04-18 Thread Max
torrent is outdated, there is  new anonymous torrent,
http://offsystem.sf.net
please host an offsystem link for download !
Thx

2009/4/18 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es

 El Sábado, 18 de Abril de 2009, D Tucny escribió:
Not to nitpick, but in terms of PR, might it be better to use a
 tracker
other than The Pirate Bay?
 [...]
  TPB is unreachable from here, it's been blocked for a long time...

 So? Set up a .torrent file with *multiple* trackers, one being TPB, one
 being
 your favourite government-approved one.

 I fail to see any reasons to not use TPB's trackers.

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Re: [OSM-dev] Bittorrent

2009-04-18 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Sábado, 18 de Abril de 2009, Max escribió:
 torrent is outdated, there is  new anonymous torrent,
 http://offsystem.sf.net
 please host an offsystem link for download !

Why do we need anonymity for downloading planet dumps, exactly?

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Re: [OSM-dev] Bittorrent

2009-04-18 Thread Max
because the tracker e.g. of TPB is blocked.
offsystem needs no tracker, so the suggest is to use the offsystem link.

2009/4/18 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es

 El Sábado, 18 de Abril de 2009, Max escribió:
  torrent is outdated, there is  new anonymous torrent,
  http://offsystem.sf.net
  please host an offsystem link for download !

 Why do we need anonymity for downloading planet dumps, exactly?

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Re: [OSM-dev] Bittorrent

2009-04-18 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Sábado, 18 de Abril de 2009, Max escribió:
 because the tracker e.g. of TPB is blocked.
 offsystem needs no tracker, so the suggest is to use the offsystem link.

Multiple trackers per torrent file + DHT = no problem. *sigh*

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Re: [OSM-dev] Bittorrent

2009-04-18 Thread Max
so you speak of a magnet link and not a torrent.
that works as well, right, but it is not anonymous, offsystem link is.

2009/4/18 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es

 El Sábado, 18 de Abril de 2009, Max escribió:
  because the tracker e.g. of TPB is blocked.
  offsystem needs no tracker, so the suggest is to use the offsystem link.

 Multiple trackers per torrent file + DHT = no problem. *sigh*

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Re: [OSM-dev] Bittorrent

2009-04-18 Thread Marcus Wolschon
2009/4/18 Max petersonm...@googlemail.com:
 so you speak of a magnet link and not a torrent.
 that works as well, right, but it is not anonymous, offsystem link is.

It does not need to be.

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Re: [OSM-dev] Bittorrent

2009-04-18 Thread Max
just a question of setting the standard.

2009/4/18 Marcus Wolschon mar...@wolschon.biz

 2009/4/18 Max petersonm...@googlemail.com:
  so you speak of a magnet link and not a torrent.
  that works as well, right, but it is not anonymous, offsystem link is.

 It does not need to be.

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Re: [OSM-dev] Bittorrent

2009-04-18 Thread Stefan de Konink
Max wrote:
 just a question of setting the standard.

Should we protect ourselves now from Teleatlas by going underground? 
Please inform me if API 0.7 is just that.


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Re: [OSM-dev] Bittorrent

2009-04-18 Thread Paul Johnson
Max wrote:
 just a question of setting the standard.

1) I'm not sure one who doesn't follow the established standards set by
English and common email convention of making the conversation flow in
chronological order rather than random reverse order when quoting other
people has much room to speak on the subject of setting new standards.

2) If we have nothing to hide (we don't), and especially given that
nothing about OSM is anonymous, what's with this irrational insistence
that anonymity is the standard all the sudden?  Does OSM as a project
even care or attempt to log who is receiving the data to begin with?



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Re: [OSM-dev] Bittorrent

2009-04-18 Thread Stefan de Konink
Paul Johnson wrote:
 2) If we have nothing to hide (we don't), and especially given that
 nothing about OSM is anonymous, what's with this irrational insistence
 that anonymity is the standard all the sudden?  Does OSM as a project
 even care or attempt to log who is receiving the data to begin with?

To make things absolutely clear. If any new license will prohibit in any 
way the distribution of the planet without signing or agreeing, this 
bittorrent service will continue anyway as it is now.

Because looking at the above statement, yes there were talks about that.


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Re: [OSM-dev] Bittorrent

2009-04-18 Thread Maarten Deen
Stefan de Konink wrote:
  Paul Johnson wrote:
  2) If we have nothing to hide (we don't), and especially given that
  nothing about OSM is anonymous, what's with this irrational insistence
  that anonymity is the standard all the sudden?  Does OSM as a project
  even care or attempt to log who is receiving the data to begin with?
 
  To make things absolutely clear. If any new license will prohibit in any
  way the distribution of the planet without signing or agreeing, this
  bittorrent service will continue anyway as it is now.

That is no problem, as any future license can only govern any future planet 
files. A new license can not go back in time and say every previous planet is 
illegal to distribute.
To do that and to enforce that needs a whole lot of power, money and attorneys.

IANAL,
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Re: [OSM-dev] Bittorrent

2009-04-18 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi,

(Cross-posting this to legal-talk.)

Stefan de Konink wrote:
 To make things absolutely clear. If any new license will prohibit
 in any way the distribution of the planet without signing or
 agreeing, this bittorrent service will continue anyway as it is
 now.

 That is no problem, as any future license can only govern any
 future planet files. A new license can not go back in time and say
 every previous planet is illegal to distribute. To do that and to
 enforce that needs a whole lot of power, money and attorneys.

 In that case to make it also clear; to submit new Planet files.

It is unwise to register your opposition to the new license by 
threatening to violate certain aspects of it.

I believe the plan regarding the planet file is to embed licensing 
information *in* the file, not to require distributors to display 
something before they hand out the file.

But you do drive home the point that any license that counts on an 
unbroken chain of prior acknowledgment of a contract (I only give you 
this data if you agree to ...) will not work. Violation of such a chain 
has been a theoretical construct until now (what if someone in China 
simply re-posts the file without restrictions...), and you make it real.

It is not nice of you but it is probably good for discussion, because we 
might otherwise have fallen for some cloud-cuckoo idea of being able to 
dictate the rules to everybody.

Bye
Frederik

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