Re: [OSM-dev] amazon AMIs for a full blown openstreetmap.org-like server

2010-01-08 Thread Jonathan-David SCHRODER
Hello, Please tell me if I'm replicating any initiative or doing something the wrong or a not-so-good way. I've started this week from an EBS backed (or boot) Ubuntu 8.04 image ami-f6ad409f. I agree to give the .pem file for ssh connection to an instance to anyone willing to collaborate. My

Re: [OSM-dev] amazon AMIs for a full blown openstreetmap.org-like server

2010-01-08 Thread Emilie Laffray
2010/1/8 Jonathan-David SCHRODER jonathan.schro...@gmail.com Hello, Please tell me if I'm replicating any initiative or doing something the wrong or a not-so-good way. I've started this week from an EBS backed (or boot) Ubuntu 8.04 image ami-f6ad409f. I agree to give the .pem file for ssh

Re: [OSM-dev] amazon AMIs for a full blown openstreetmap.org-like server

2010-01-08 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
I would like to have an account. We could try out some ideas for replacing the database with a lot of small files. mike On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/1/8 Jonathan-David SCHRODER jonathan.schro...@gmail.com Hello, Please tell me if I'm

[OSM-dev] How to support name:* in MapOSMatic?

2010-01-08 Thread David MENTRE
Hello, I'm part of MapOSMatic developers. Currently, we are using osm2pgsql to translate OSM data into Posgresql, as usual. We are using the default configuration for osm2pgsql. In particular, the tag name is translated into a pgsql column name. We would like to support multiple names for a

Re: [OSM-dev] How to support name:* in MapOSMatic?

2010-01-08 Thread Greg Troxel
We would like to support multiple names for a given street: name:fr, name:ar, etc. As far as I have understood, we could configure osm2pgsql to create columns name:fr, name:ar, etc. and change our SQL requests to use those columns. That does not seems very scalable. The ideal

Re: [OSM-dev] amazon AMIs for a full blown openstreetmap.org-like server

2010-01-08 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
I have been working on c++ code with rtrees and other nice things. depending on what you want to do with it, I think it is fair to make updates very slow if the rendering is very fast... mike On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: Op 08-01-10 13:49,

Re: [OSM-dev] How to support name:* in MapOSMatic?

2010-01-08 Thread Brian Quinion
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 12:57 PM, David MENTRE dmen...@linux-france.org wrote: The ideal configuration would be to have all names (name:fr, name:ar, ...) into a single name column and use it. Or have a kind of couple (name, country_code) that would store all different names for a street. But I

Re: [OSM-dev] amazon AMIs for a full blown openstreetmap.org-like server

2010-01-08 Thread Stefan de Konink
Now both to list. Op 08-01-10 14:53, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com schreef: On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Stefan de Koninkste...@konink.de wrote: Op 08-01-10 14:46, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com schreef: I have been working on c++ code with rtrees and other nice things. depending on

Re: [OSM-dev] How to support name:* in MapOSMatic?

2010-01-08 Thread David MENTRE
Hello Brian, 2010/1/8 Brian Quinion openstreet...@brian.quinion.co.uk: That is how the gazetteer output from osm2pgsql handles it already. Thanks a lot! Regards, d. ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-dev] amazon AMIs for a full blown openstreetmap.org-like server

2010-01-08 Thread Stefan de Konink
Op 08-01-10 15:09, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com schreef: I dont know all the details of mapnik, but from what I have seen, using the postgres database is not needed in all cases. I am thinking about It is not required to use the database, but the overhead is in the rendering. I do agree

[OSM-dev] When are ways/relations in a changeset?

2010-01-08 Thread Andreas Kalsch
When I change the position of a node, will the way be in the changeset, too? When I change members of relations (without adding / removing members), will the relation be in the changeset, too? I have currently no data to test these cases, so does anybody know how the results of these operations

Re: [OSM-dev] amazon AMIs for a full blown openstreetmap.org-like server

2010-01-08 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: Op 08-01-10 15:09, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com schreef: I dont know all the details of mapnik, but from what I have seen, using the postgres database is not needed in all cases. I am thinking about It is not required

Re: [OSM-dev] amazon AMIs for a full blown openstreetmap.org-like server

2010-01-08 Thread Stefan de Konink
Op 08-01-10 15:39, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com schreef: Tiny would have to be an osmtile in binary format, agreed? Yes, well if you sort the data properly then mapnik would just render the data in a sax callback, right? Jup, but you will never get better results of that storing in parts

Re: [OSM-dev] amazon AMIs for a full blown openstreetmap.org-like server

2010-01-08 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
Ok, well I am going to first work on making the mapnik be able to render an osm file standalone without postgis, will report back when that works. mike On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: Op 08-01-10 15:39, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com schreef: Tiny would

Re: [OSM-dev] amazon AMIs for a full blown openstreetmap.org-like server

2010-01-08 Thread Lennard
jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Ok, well I am going to first work on making the mapnik be able to render an osm file standalone without postgis, will report back when that works. *cough* http://trac.mapnik.org/browser/trunk/plugins/input/osm Will not work with the postgis-based

Re: [OSM-dev] When are ways/relations in a changeset?

2010-01-08 Thread Matthias Julius
Andreas Kalsch andreaskal...@gmx.de writes: When I change the position of a node, will the way be in the changeset, too? When I change members of relations (without adding / removing members), will the relation be in the changeset, too? When you change a node only the node is uploaded to the

Re: [OSM-dev] amazon AMIs for a full blown openstreetmap.org-like server

2010-01-08 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
So this renderes directly from an osm file? On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Lennard l...@xs4all.nl wrote: jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Ok, well I am going to first work on making the mapnik be able to render an osm file standalone without postgis, will report back when that works.

Re: [OSM-dev] amazon AMIs for a full blown openstreetmap.org-like server

2010-01-08 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapnik#Data_Sources This webpage only talkes about posgis, is there any documentation that covers the osm direct rendering? mike On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 4:08 PM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: So this renderes directly from

Re: [OSM-dev] When are ways/relations in a changeset?

2010-01-08 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, When I change the position of a node, will the way be in the changeset, too? No. When I change members of relations (without adding / removing members), will the relation be in the changeset, too? No. Bye Frederik ___ dev mailing list

Re: [OSM-dev] amazon AMIs for a full blown openstreetmap.org-like server

2010-01-08 Thread Dane Springmeyer
On Jan 8, 2010, at 7:19 AM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapnik#Data_Sources This webpage only talkes about posgis, is there any documentation that covers the osm direct rendering? http://trac.mapnik.org/wiki/OsmPlugin

Re: [OSM-dev] amazon AMIs for a full blown openstreetmap.org-like server

2010-01-08 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
Ok, this looks great. So, now, that would be my suggestion to use on this amazon webservice. A lot of small osm files, the size of the smallest tile. Now, on thing did occur to me while walking the dog, we could render multiple zoom levels at once. Every time you render the smallest unit (tile)

Re: [OSM-dev] How to support name:* in MapOSMatic?

2010-01-08 Thread Peter Körner
On the toolserver we imported with this style [1] and so have the name, name:de, name:fr, etc. columns. Then we used the script [2] to created one view for each language and for each table: SELECT planet_osm_point.osm_id, planet_osm_point.access, planet_osm_point.addr:flats,

[josm-dev] Localization of exception messages

2010-01-08 Thread Matthias Julius
I noticed that some exceptions get localized messages like this one: IllegalArgumentException(tr(Parameter ''{0}'' must not be null., tags)) Does this really help anyone? Those messages are intended to be for developers and users probably won't know what to do even with the best translation.

Re: [josm-dev] Localization of exception messages

2010-01-08 Thread Ľubomír Varga
My suggestion is to throw just english language exceptions. All exceptions should have some code and this code can be key in some wiki page with tutorials how to remove occurence of exceptions. Ideal is link in exception window. Googling for number could be sometimes problem. For developer

Re: [josm-dev] Localization of exception messages

2010-01-08 Thread Karl Guggisberg
Hi, I would vote for removing those lokalizations. Me too. There are lots of them, though, and I even have to admin that lots of them have been introduced by me. In hindsight this looks increasingly silly. We should follow more appropriate rules than those currently mentioned in

Re: [josm-dev] Localization of exception messages

2010-01-08 Thread Matthias Julius
Dirk Stöcker openstreet...@dstoecker.de writes: Message intended to be visible to user must be translated. Messages meant as security checks or debugging texts which never should be visible to a user may remain untranslated. When in doubt they should be translated, but also descriptive for