Re: [Potlatch-dev] Potlatch 2.3

2011-12-03 Thread NopMap

Hi!

Small update: After moving from the test installation to the live instance,
the locale does work. Though I have no idea why as nothing has changed in
the embedding. Maybe some flash caching issue?

Now that it basically works, I noted that the translation of the UI is still
incomplete. osm.org shows the same mix of English and German. I filed a
ticket on trac and I would be happy to provide the German translation once
the additional injections are in place.

bye
   Nop


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Re: [OSM-dev] Harmless edits (was: Change in wtfe.gryph.de Quick History Service API)

2011-12-03 Thread Sarah Hoffmann
On Sat, Dec 03, 2011 at 01:13:14AM +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote:
 Everyone is invited to play with this script and see what happens. I
 plan to make this the basis of the v2 WTFE service, meaning that in
 the future editors will likely *not* highlight stuff that my script
 deems harmless.
 
 Here's the - hacky, perly - source code: http://wtfe.gryph.de/harmless.pl
 
 Please don't do mass evaluations with this web service, as it runs a
 history query against the API in the backend and this is quite
 costly. If you want to run this on a large area, download the .pl
 file and make yourself a full history extract with Peter Koerner's
 history splitter, then run the perl script on the XML. It can
 process anything up to the complete planet if you have the patience.

Just a reminder on the side: Simon Poole provides history extracts for 
some countries here: http://odbl.poole.ch/extracts/ They are softcut
using the polygons from Geofabrik. Might come in handy here.

Sarah

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Re: [OSM-dev] Harmless edits (was: Change in wtfe.gryph.de Quick History Service API)

2011-12-03 Thread Sarah Hoffmann
Hi,

On Sat, Dec 03, 2011 at 01:13:14AM +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote:
I have finalized a script that can analyze an object's history
 and determine if certain edits are non-edits (i.e. nothing of note
 was changed at all), or harmess (i.e. the object was changed and
 might have to be rolled back if the contributor does not agree to
 the license change, but the rollback will likely not affect the
 quality much).
 
 [...]
 
 You can try out my script here, by adding a way/node/relation id to
 the URL like so:
 
 http://wtfe.gryph.de/harmless/way/40103577
 
 The output is a break-down of what my script thinks has happened to
 the object, and which edits are zero-edits (severity: 0) or
 harmless (severity: 1). After the version analysis, it summarizes
 the user contributions - each user is afforded the highest severity
 of all his changes.

There is a small oddity: when a non-agreeing user deleted an object
then the script notes that down as a zero-edit and ignores the fact
that the object is gone. Example:

http://wtfe.gryph.de/harmless/node/1300187843

see history: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1300187843/history

Might happen only if there are no tags.

I'm also slightly confused by the user summary. What do 'relevant change'
and 'no change' mean? I would have expected 'relevant change' to be only
those that are non-zero edits by non-agreers but that does not seem to be
the case.


Sarah

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Re: [OSM-dev] Harmless edits

2011-12-03 Thread Frederik Ramm

Hi,

On 12/03/2011 12:01 PM, Sarah Hoffmann wrote:

There is a small oddity: when a non-agreeing user deleted an object
then the script notes that down as a zero-edit and ignores the fact
that the object is gone. Example:


Indeed. While not relevant for the kind of processing I had in mind 
(colouring existing objects) that should be fixed to avoid 
misunderstandings.



I'm also slightly confused by the user summary. What do 'relevant change'
and 'no change' mean? I would have expected 'relevant change' to be only
those that are non-zero edits by non-agreers but that does not seem to be
the case.


Yes, that is maybe an unfortunate choice of wording on my part.

Our *default* assumption is that any edit by a non-agreer makes an 
object problematic.


If an agreer makes a harmless change, or if a non-agreer makes a 
significant change, then that doesn't change anything compared to our 
default assumption.


If, on the other hand, a non-agreer's change is found to be harmless, 
then *that* is a relevant change in so far as it might actually change 
the colour of an object on the map (from orange to not shown or whatever).


Bye
Frederik

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Re: [OSM-dev] Harmless edits

2011-12-03 Thread Simon Poole



Am 03.12.2011 12:38, schrieb Frederik Ramm:

Hi,

On 12/03/2011 12:01 PM, Sarah Hoffmann wrote:

There is a small oddity: when a non-agreeing user deleted an object
then the script notes that down as a zero-edit and ignores the fact
that the object is gone. Example:


Indeed. While not relevant for the kind of processing I had in mind 
(colouring existing objects) that should be fixed to avoid 
misunderstandings.




There are two aspects to this

- is object deletion an operation that we consider trivial and not 
worthy of protection. Wrong mailing list for that discussion, but if the 
answer is no (unlikely IMHO) we would actually have to undo the deletions


- we will want to keep a list (a map) of such objects for potential 
replacement of objects that were replaced by non-agreers (non-agreer 
deletes a object and creates a new object in its place)



Simon




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[OSM-dev] osm2psql -r primitive xml parsing

2011-12-03 Thread sylvain letuffe
hi,

That might not be a bug since, as the option suggest, it's primitive but 
this parsing mode doesn't seams to support xml entities in key's values, like 
#39; for ' and ends inserted in the db as #39;

PS: I know I'd better switch to pbf files imports to speed-up the import.
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Re: [OSM-dev] Harmless edits

2011-12-03 Thread Simon Poole

Am 03.12.2011 19:36, schrieb Frederik Ramm:

Hi,

On 12/03/2011 01:07 PM, Simon Poole wrote:

- is object deletion an operation that we consider trivial and not
worthy of protection. Wrong mailing list for that discussion, but if the
answer is no (unlikely IMHO) we would actually have to undo the 
deletions


And when a denier creates an object and another denier deletes it we 
vanish in a puff of logic ;)




Perhaps I'm stupid or so, but I don't see where the paradox is supposed 
to be. If we consider what we are doing as rolling back in time edits 
done by decliners everything would seem to be completly consistent. In 
any case what is this discussion doing on dev?



- we will want to keep a list (a map) of such objects for potential
replacement of objects that were replaced by non-agreers (non-agreer
deletes a object and creates a new object in its place)


I thought about this but I guess it's not worth the effort since you'd 
be resurrecting stuff that has been collecting dust in hiding for, 
potentially, years and therefore might be quite inaccurate.
Deleted objects may still contain useful information, obviously 
resurrection should be done thoughtfully.


Simon

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Re: [josm-dev] support for Openstreetview in JOSM

2011-12-03 Thread colliar
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Hey Jo

Am 28.11.2011 21:43, schrieb Jo:
 Wishlist:
 
- Ability to upload these geotagged pictures directly to the FTP server
of Openstreetview
 
 The first time a username/password should be asked for and it needs to be
 stored in JOSM's settings
 
 
- Ability to download all available photos for a given area (maybe as an
extra tick in the download window? Just like for GPX tracks of other
contributors)
 
 
 I digged up this Perl snippet:
 
 http://linux.voyager.hr/osm/openstreetview_dl.txt
 
 I can't claim I understand it, but I believe it could give a clue on how to
 achieve such a download.
 
 Should I ask for this functionality as a trac ticket? Is it one request, or
 two separate ones?
...

Yes, Trac is the place for enhancements and wishes.
I think one ticket is enough.

This sounds more like a new plugin or maybe some extra functions of  'EXIF photo
geotagging'.

Cheers colliar
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[josm-dev] Trac: OperationalError: database is locked

2011-12-03 Thread colliar
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Hey guys.

Just want to make sure you notice (hope you are working on it)

I get OperationalError: database is locked on the ticket system for new tickets
and requesting filtered ticket list. Opening tickets directly works.

Ciao
colliar
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Re: [josm-dev] Trac: OperationalError: database is locked

2011-12-03 Thread colliar
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Am 03.12.2011 13:56, schrieb colliar:
 Hey guys.
 
 Just want to make sure you notice (hope you are working on it)
 
 I get OperationalError: database is locked on the ticket system for new 
 tickets
 and requesting filtered ticket list. Opening tickets directly works.
 
 Ciao
 colliar

Sorry forgot:

 Zum Reproduzieren 

Während der Ausführung von GET auf `/report/6` hat Trac einen internen Fehler
gemeldet.

''(Bitte geben Sie hier weitere Details an)''

Anfrageparameter:
{{{
{'id': u'6'}
}}}

User agent: `#USER_AGENT#`

 Systeminformationen 
''Systeminformation nicht verfügbar''

 Aktive Plugins 
''Plugininformation nicht verfügbar''

 Python-Zurückverfolgungsinformationen 
{{{
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File
/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/Trac-0.12.2-py2.6.egg/trac/web/main.py,
line 511, in _dispatch_request
dispatcher.dispatch(req)
  File
/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/Trac-0.12.2-py2.6.egg/trac/web/main.py,
line 260, in dispatch
req.session.save()
  File
/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/Trac-0.12.2-py2.6.egg/trac/web/session.py,
line 105, in save
@self.env.with_transaction()
  File
/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/Trac-0.12.2-py2.6.egg/trac/db/api.py,
line 77, in transaction_wrapper
fn(ldb)
  File
/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/Trac-0.12.2-py2.6.egg/trac/web/session.py,
line 140, in save_session
, (self.sid, authenticated))
  File
/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/Trac-0.12.2-py2.6.egg/trac/db/util.py,
line 65, in execute
return self.cursor.execute(sql_escape_percent(sql), args)
  File
/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/Trac-0.12.2-py2.6.egg/trac/db/sqlite_backend.py,
line 78, in execute
result = PyFormatCursor.execute(self, *args)
  File
/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/Trac-0.12.2-py2.6.egg/trac/db/sqlite_backend.py,
line 56, in execute
args or [])
  File
/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/Trac-0.12.2-py2.6.egg/trac/db/sqlite_backend.py,
line 48, in _rollback_on_error
return function(self, *args, **kwargs)
OperationalError: database is locked
}}}
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Re: [josm-dev] Trac: OperationalError: database is locked

2011-12-03 Thread Dirk Stöcker

On Sat, 3 Dec 2011, colliar wrote:


Just want to make sure you notice (hope you are working on it)

I get OperationalError: database is locked on the ticket system for new tickets
and requesting filtered ticket list. Opening tickets directly works.


This is basically an issue caused by too much load on the machine. And 
this again seems to be caused by hanging Apache requests. I'm 
investigating this for some time now, but did not really find the cause.


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