Re: [OSM-dev] having a regularly updated OSM database?

2012-04-10 Thread Paul Norman
> -Original Message- > From: Ákos Maróy [mailto:a...@maroy.hu] > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:22 PM > To: dev@openstreetmap.org > Subject: [OSM-dev] having a regularly updated OSM database? > > Hi, > > I wonder what is the best way to have a regularly updated, up-to-date > OSM databas

[OSM-dev] (reverse) GeoCoding on Android

2012-04-10 Thread Graham Jones
Hi All, I am trying to put together a little android application that works out where it is, and sends the info on a text message to someone (it is for someone who can not talk well). The location finding and SMS bits are working now, but the location is lat/lon, which is not very friendly for the

[OSM-dev] having a regularly updated OSM database?

2012-04-10 Thread Ákos Maróy
Hi, I wonder what is the best way to have a regularly updated, up-to-date OSM database? By regularly, I mean an update about say once a month. Previously I experimented with osm2pgsql, but that took me 5 days to import, and the 'update' process was on the same order of magnitude. (this is on an i

Re: [OSM-dev] Licence of the Mapnik style?

2012-04-10 Thread Ian Dees
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Mike Dupont wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:32 PM, Sven Geggus > wrote: > >> Cartinus wrote: >> >> > That would already be achieved with GPL. You don't need AGPL for that. >> >> You might be right. Given that the analogy is as follows: >> (mapnik=compile

Re: [OSM-dev] Licence of the Mapnik style?

2012-04-10 Thread Mike Dupont
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:32 PM, Sven Geggus wrote: > Cartinus wrote: > > > That would already be achieved with GPL. You don't need AGPL for that. > > You might be right. Given that the analogy is as follows: > (mapnik=compiler, stylefile=sourcecode, tile=binary) > > Distributing tiles without s

Re: [OSM-dev] Licence of the Mapnik style?

2012-04-10 Thread Mike Dupont
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:06 PM, Cartinus wrote: > That would already be achieved with GPL. You don't need AGPL for that. Well AGPL http://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl-3.0.html covers public propagation and network interaction, the GPL does not. Under the gpl you would be able to create modified

Re: [OSM-dev] Licence of the Mapnik style?

2012-04-10 Thread Sven Geggus
Cartinus wrote: > That would already be achieved with GPL. You don't need AGPL for that. You might be right. Given that the analogy is as follows: (mapnik=compiler, stylefile=sourcecode, tile=binary) Distributing tiles without stylefile would be like distributing binaries without sourcecode. S

Re: [OSM-dev] Licence of the Mapnik style?

2012-04-10 Thread Cartinus
On 04/10/2012 04:06 PM, Sven Geggus wrote: > If somebody takes the style and runs a derived style on his own > tileserver his changes should be contributed back to the project (IMO). That would already be achieved with GPL. You don't need AGPL for that. --- m.v.g., Cartinus _

Re: [OSM-dev] Licence of the Mapnik style?

2012-04-10 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 04/10/2012 06:56 PM, Paul Hartmann wrote: On 04/10/2012 05:31 PM, Sven Geggus wrote: People are already doing bussiness using proprietary styles (e.g. http://francetopo.fr/) [...] There are also businesses publishing styles under permissive license (MIT): https://github.com/MapQuest/Ma

Re: [OSM-dev] Licence of the Mapnik style?

2012-04-10 Thread Paul Hartmann
On 04/10/2012 05:31 PM, Sven Geggus wrote: > People are already doing bussiness using proprietary styles (e.g. > http://francetopo.fr/) [...] There are also businesses publishing styles under permissive license (MIT): https://github.com/MapQuest/MapQuest-Mapnik-Style Paul ___

Re: [OSM-dev] Licence of the Mapnik style?

2012-04-10 Thread Paul Hartmann
2012/4/10 Mike Dupont : > On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Komяpa wrote: >> >> If mapnik sytlesheet will become AGPL we'll have to get rid of our >> local instance > > or keep the old version that has a different license, which is unknown. There is no such thing as a different unknown old licens

Re: [OSM-dev] Licence of the Mapnik style?

2012-04-10 Thread Sven Geggus
Komяpa wrote: > If mapnik sytlesheet will become AGPL we'll have to get rid of our > local instance, just to make sure our stylesheet won't be affected. I have not been talking about changing the (unknown) licence of the original mapnik stylesheet but of our germanstyle which is a derivative. I

Re: [OSM-dev] Licence of the Mapnik style?

2012-04-10 Thread Mike Dupont
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Komяpa wrote: > If mapnik sytlesheet will become AGPL we'll have to get rid of our > local instance > or keep the old version that has a different license, which is unknown. mike -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://f

Re: [OSM-dev] Licence of the Mapnik style?

2012-04-10 Thread Komяpa
> If somebody takes the style and runs a derived style on his own > tileserver his changes should be contributed back to the project (IMO). If mapnik sytlesheet will become AGPL we'll have to get rid of our local instance, just to make sure our stylesheet won't be affected. Too viral licenses are

Re: [OSM-dev] Licence of the Mapnik style?

2012-04-10 Thread Sven Geggus
Richard Fairhurst wrote: > The shields are mine, and I think the core highway colours (motorway, trunk, > primary, secondary) might be too, and I'm happy to see them go under WTFPL. > (But, AGPL, ugh.) The reason why I have been thinking about AGPL ist that Mapnik stuff is usually deployed as a

Re: [OSM-dev] Licence of the Mapnik style?

2012-04-10 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Paul Hartmann wrote: > I've started emailing the authors some time ago. The main > contributors (Steve Chilton and Lennard) would license their > work under the terms of CC0. So do the following > committers: artem, nick, spaetz, tomhughes. A few people > I haven't contacted so far. The shield

Re: [OSM-dev] Licence of the Mapnik style?

2012-04-10 Thread Paul Hartmann
On 04/10/2012 02:28 PM, Sven Geggus wrote: > Hello altogether, > > with the upcoming adoption of the ODBL for OSM data the licence of common > Mapnik styles will definitely get more important! I've started emailing the authors some time ago. The main contributors (Steve Chilton and Lennard) would

[OSM-dev] Licence of the Mapnik style?

2012-04-10 Thread Sven Geggus
Hello altogether, with the upcoming adoption of the ODBL for OSM data the licence of common Mapnik styles will definitely get more important! I strongly feel the need of a decent map style to be distributed under a copyleft style licence (IMO Affero GPL would be best suited, but IANAL) to make sh