Re: [OSM-dev] API change

2012-07-11 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 07/11/12 22:51, Richard Fairhurst wrote: In an ideal world we would like to have given more warning. But as a former JOSM maintainer has proudly proclaimed beforehand "Software whose programmers whine about having to make a change deserves to die, or be banned", then I have no doubt that

Re: [OSM-dev] Attribution string (was: Licence redaction ready to begin)

2012-07-11 Thread Igor Brejc
Why not use TileJSON? http://mapbox.com/developers/tilejson/ Igor On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 7:12 AM, Kai Krueger wrote: > On 07/10/2012 01:38 PM, Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr) wrote: > > I've been wondering if it would be possible to put a fixed URL on the tile > and/or API servers that application

Re: [OSM-dev] Exhaustion of 32bit signed integer range expected this year

2012-07-11 Thread Kai Krueger
SimonPoole wrote > > RSN a large number of sites using OSM data will be reloading their > databases, due to a certain well known change :-). > Well, this time has come closer now... SimonPoole wrote > > It seems as if it would really make sense to make the 64bit ID version > of osm2pgsql th

Re: [OSM-dev] Attribution string (was: Licence redaction ready to begin)

2012-07-11 Thread Kai Krueger
On 07/10/2012 01:38 PM, Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr) wrote: > I've been wondering if it would be possible to put a fixed URL on the > tile and/or API servers that application programs could fetch to > retrieve the current attribution string for that particular tile > server? Something like 0/0/0.txt o

Re: [OSM-dev] New OGR driver to read OpenStreetMap .osm / .pbf files

2012-07-11 Thread Dane Springmeyer
On Jul 11, 2012, at 1:03 AM, Jochen Topf wrote: > >> - Osmium does not seem to be Windows ready according to its doc. > > Yes. I hope somebody who knows anything about Windows development will help > with that at some point. I's really like to see the Mapnik OSM plugin switch to using Osmium ra

Re: [OSM-dev] API change

2012-07-11 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Ian Dees wrote: > Andy made a commit that changed the API response for nodes. > http://git.osm.org/rails.git/commitdiff/2c67c07 > Previously, visible="false" nodes would include their lat/lon. Now > such nodes will no longer include lat/lon. For background: this is pretty much essential to the fu

Re: [OSM-dev] API change

2012-07-11 Thread Ian Dees
It's already in production. On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Skye Book wrote: > Thanks for the heads up! > > Is this a definite for going into production? > On Jul 11, 2012 4:24 PM, "Ian Dees" wrote: > >> Andy made a commit that changed the API response for nodes. >> >> http://git.osm.org/rails

[OSM-dev] API change

2012-07-11 Thread Ian Dees
Andy made a commit that changed the API response for nodes. http://git.osm.org/rails.git/commitdiff/2c67c07 Previously, visible="false" nodes would include their lat/lon. Now such nodes will no longer include lat/lon. At the very least this breaks some functionality in JOSM.

Re: [OSM-dev] New OGR driver to read OpenStreetMap .osm / .pbf files

2012-07-11 Thread Even Rouault
> OSM has *lots* of broken data, especially broken (multi)polygons where: > > * polygon rings have gaps Not sure what you mean by that. Example ? > * inner/outer polygon rings are mis-classified (inner rings declared as > outer and vice versa) The algorithm used in the driver ignores inner/oute

Re: [OSM-dev] New OGR driver to read OpenStreetMap .osm / .pbf files

2012-07-11 Thread Even Rouault
> Osmium is a header-only library, so the extra dependency would only be there > for people building GDAL/OGR, not people using the library. So I'd say it is > not that bad. (And you have the dependency on spatialite now which Osmium > wouldn't need.) Actually, the dependency for the OSM driver i

Re: [OSM-dev] [Imports] Suspend Imports / Bulk edits / Bots

2012-07-11 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 11-07-12 17:10, Grant Slater wrote: > Summary: Please stop Imports, Automated Edits, Bulk edits & Bots > until the redaction process has ended. What is your ETA? Stefan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment:

[OSM-dev] Suspend Imports / Bulk edits / Bots

2012-07-11 Thread Grant Slater
Dear All, Summary: Please stop Imports, Automated Edits, Bulk edits & Bots until the redaction process has ended. The redaction bot has just started running. Until the redaction process has been completed please suspend all imports and bulk edit operations. Imports or bots which ignore this reque

Re: [OSM-dev] Licence redaction ready to begin

2012-07-11 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > I think that from a legal perspective, the algorithm is less relevant than > the outcome. If, after the change is through, someone can pinpoint a case > where protected intellectual property of a non-agreer is demonstrably still > in the data

Re: [OSM-dev] Licence redaction ready to begin

2012-07-11 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 07/11/12 14:35, Anthony wrote: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-license-change Is there a summary (non-code) suitable for my lawyer to read? Not that I am aware of. We started something on the Wiki but that has remained in a state of early brainstorming and does not ref

Re: [OSM-dev] Licence redaction ready to begin

2012-07-11 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 2:59 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > > On 07/11/2012 12:59 AM, Anthony wrote: >>> >>> Starting this week, we will be 'redacting' the contributions (less than >>> 1%) >>> from the live database that are not compatible with the new Contributor >>> Terms and Open Database L

Re: [OSM-dev] New OGR driver to read OpenStreetMap .osm / .pbf files

2012-07-11 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 07/11/2012 09:24 AM, Even Rouault wrote: The main reason is I didn't make an extensive search of what other libs existed before, so yes perhaps, a bit of reinvented wheel syndrom... Apart from unnecessary duplication of work - which is basically a problem just for the authors and not t

Re: [OSM-dev] New OGR driver to read OpenStreetMap .osm / .pbf files

2012-07-11 Thread Jochen Topf
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 09:24:03AM +0200, Even Rouault wrote: > Le mardi 10 juillet 2012 22:13:15, Jochen Topf a écrit : > > Interesting. Any reason you wrote the whole thing yourself instead of > > basing it on the Osmium library? (wiki.osm.org/wiki/Osmium) > > Hi Jochen, > > The main reason is

Re: [OSM-dev] Licence redaction ready to begin

2012-07-11 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 11.07.2012 04:58, schrieb Paul Norman: What exact attribution does OSMF intend to use when the tiles are a mix of old tiles and new tiles? As far as I know the Tile license should not change, right? The attribution therefore could mention both probably or determine it tilewise by date (t

Re: [OSM-dev] New OGR driver to read OpenStreetMap .osm / .pbf files

2012-07-11 Thread Even Rouault
Le mardi 10 juillet 2012 22:13:15, Jochen Topf a écrit : > Interesting. Any reason you wrote the whole thing yourself instead of > basing it on the Osmium library? (wiki.osm.org/wiki/Osmium) Hi Jochen, The main reason is I didn't make an extensive search of what other libs existed before, so yes

Re: [OSM-dev] Licence redaction ready to begin

2012-07-11 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 07/11/2012 12:59 AM, Anthony wrote: Starting this week, we will be 'redacting' the contributions (less than 1%) from the live database that are not compatible with the new Contributor Terms and Open Database Licence (ODbL) What is the algorithm to determine what gets removed? https://