Re: [Potlatch-dev] [OpenStreetMap] #4626: Potlatch2 toolbox disappears

2012-10-16 Thread OpenStreetMap
#4626: Potlatch2 toolbox disappears --+ Reporter: SomeoneElse | Owner: potlatch-dev@… Type: defect | Status: new Priority: minor| Milestone: Component: potlatch2|Version: Resolution:

Re: [OSM-dev] History statistics

2012-10-16 Thread Peter Körner
Hi no it was a mistake. Basicly atm there is one huge nested map, that holds all required information: nodemap[Objekt-ID][Timestamp] = (lat, lon) lat/lon is atm stored as double. The suggested memory layout is as follows: 1. An Array with a 32bit Pointer for each Node-ID 2. A

Re: [OSM-dev] OSM Wishlist

2012-10-16 Thread Peter Körner
Hi Am 12.10.2012 16:14, schrieb Serge Wroclawski: I made a second issue at the same time regarding gathering histrorical data around way geometry. Right now, due to the way OSM stores its geometry data, the only way to know about a way's geometry history is to call the history call for the

Re: [OSM-dev] Notes - OSM improvements BoF at SOTM PDX

2012-10-16 Thread Jochen Topf
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 07:48:24PM -0700, John Firebaugh wrote: On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: Exporting raw data was never the primary purpose of the export tab - it was really added to address the constant request for the ability to export images of an

Re: [OSM-dev] Notes - OSM improvements BoF at SOTM PDX

2012-10-16 Thread Paweł Paprota
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012, at 11:09, Frederik Ramm wrote: - How could the Mapnik style be more open to improvements? We definitely need to get it on GitHub. I don't think the version control system used makes a difference - I doubt the 400+ issues filed against the current style would be

Re: [OSM-dev] Notes - OSM improvements BoF at SOTM PDX

2012-10-16 Thread Tom Hughes
On 16/10/12 05:42, Serge Wroclawski wrote: On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: Exporting raw data was never the primary purpose of the export tab - it was really added to address the constant request for the ability to export images of an area. Do we have

Re: [OSM-dev] multipolygon relation and non-closed ways

2012-10-16 Thread Willi
Well, I care about the mapper who is interested in an agreed final result and doesn't want to spend his time reading the opinion of individual persons. Just for this there's a talk page for each wiki page. When interested you can subscribe to the talk page separately. If the talk page isn't enough

Re: [OSM-dev] OSM Wishlist

2012-10-16 Thread Paweł Paprota
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012, at 01:03, sly (sylvain letuffe) wrote: If you propose to change it by creating a community-driven (instead of admin-driven as you put it) wishlist, by any means - do it. The operative word being do. I'll be glad to do so, and will start it. Unless the MapBox team

[OSM-dev] Older version of OWL alive?

2012-10-16 Thread Alex Barth
Matt (or others who might know) - Is there a staging (or some other kind of) version of OWL alive that I could look at? Alex Barth http://twitter.com/lxbarth tel (+1) 202 250 3633 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-dev] Older version of OWL alive?

2012-10-16 Thread Matt Amos
On Tue, 2012-10-16 at 09:32 -0400, Alex Barth wrote: Matt (or others who might know) - Is there a staging (or some other kind of) version of OWL alive that I could look at? sadly not. the version on dev (which was crushing it) died under its own weight a while ago. the situation back in

Re: [OSM-dev] Notes - OSM improvements BoF at SOTM PDX

2012-10-16 Thread Eric Marsden
fr == Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org writes: fr In Wikipedia, all user-to-user messages are automatically public fr (unless both parties agree to take it to email). Maybe food for fr thought - do we need private messages at all? There seem to be fr quite a number of bullies in OSM who

Re: [OSM-dev] Notes - OSM improvements BoF at SOTM PDX

2012-10-16 Thread Eric Marsden
fr == Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org writes: - Should SVG export be replaced with something else, or improved in Mapnik enough to be worthwhile? fr Definitely a question that I am often asked - keep in mind that there fr are two kinds of SVG, that which conforms to the standard and

Re: [OSM-dev] Notes - OSM improvements BoF at SOTM PDX

2012-10-16 Thread Tom MacWright
The problem I see is, other than pointing to planet.openstreetmap.org I'm not sure where else we would send them? While there are lots of other places to get things like regional extracts they are unofficial third party sites so I don't think that we should be referring people to them from the

[OSM-dev] missing nodes

2012-10-16 Thread David Prime
Hi All, I'm relatively new to processing the OSM datasets and trying to extract interesting data. What I'm trying to do is build a dataset of all UK roads. I first used osmosis with a way filter based on the highway tag, which worked reasonably well. However, when I delved into the data, I

Re: [OSM-dev] Notes - OSM improvements BoF at SOTM PDX

2012-10-16 Thread Tom Hughes
On 16/10/12 16:40, Tom MacWright wrote: The problem I see is, other than pointing to planet.openstreetmap.org http://planet.openstreetmap.org/ I'm not sure where else we would send them? While there are lots of other places to get things like regional extracts they are unofficial third party

Re: [OSM-dev] Notes - OSM improvements BoF at SOTM PDX

2012-10-16 Thread SomeoneElse
Tom Hughes wrote: As to other sites, the problems are several fold - how do we decide to bless one particular site over another? not to mention the fact that we might end up driving more traffic to such sites than they could handle. From a purely end-user perspective, having lots of

Re: [OSM-dev] Notes - OSM improvements BoF at SOTM PDX

2012-10-16 Thread Ian Dees
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: On 16/10/12 16:40, Tom MacWright wrote: The problem I see is, other than pointing to planet.openstreetmap.org http://planet.openstreetmap.**org/ http://planet.openstreetmap.org/ I'm not sure where else we would send them?

[OSM-dev] OpenStreetBugs API in integration

2012-10-16 Thread Mikel Maron
Hi The current OSB integration work into osm.org, will this include the OSB API? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetBugs/API#Editing_bugs Users of OSM data on their websites would be interested to integrate bug reporting directly into their application. Thanks -Mikel   * Mikel Maron

Re: [OSM-dev] missing nodes

2012-10-16 Thread marqqs
Hi David, did you find out exactly where in your toolchain these nodes get lost? Maybe it's the filter process with Osmosis? I wouldn't assume a bug, I think it's more likely a misunderstanding in how the program options should be used. I'm not sure about the official API definition but it

Re: [OSM-dev] missing nodes

2012-10-16 Thread David Prime
Hi Markus, I ditched osmosis because I wanted to know where they were being dropped so wrote my own filter tool which gave the same results. Looks like it's just how it is, but I'm wondering what the point of a way with broken noderefs is. Is it corruption or a feature? David On Tue, Oct 16,

Re: [OSM-dev] Notes - OSM improvements BoF at SOTM PDX

2012-10-16 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 16.10.2012 17:32, Eric Marsden wrote: fr thought - do we need private messages at all? There seem to be fr quite a number of bullies in OSM who send self-important messages fr to lesser experienced mappers explaining their rules... that fr could be stopped if all messages were public.

Re: [OSM-dev] missing nodes

2012-10-16 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 16.10.2012 18:34, David Prime wrote: I ditched osmosis because I wanted to know where they were being dropped so wrote my own filter tool which gave the same results. Looks like it's just how it is, but I'm wondering what the point of a way with broken noderefs is. Is it corruption or a

Re: [OSM-dev] Notes - OSM improvements BoF at SOTM PDX

2012-10-16 Thread Roland Olbricht
As to other sites, the problems are several fold - how do we decide to bless one particular site over another? Please be honest. You, I, and everbody else also set preferences on at best educated guesses, often more trust in what or whom we know or don't know. We use OpenLayers and not

Re: [OSM-dev] missing nodes

2012-10-16 Thread Stephan Knauss
Hi David, David Prime writes: wrote my own filter tool which gave the same results. Looks like it's just how it is, but I'm wondering what the point of a way with broken noderefs is. Is it corruption or a feature? There shouldn't be that many missings refs at all. What is the source of

Re: [OSM-dev] missing nodes

2012-10-16 Thread David Prime
There shouldn't be that many missings refs at all. What is the source of your England dump? Is it contained there? I read your sentence below that it is already missing in your input file. Stephan It's just your standard dump from

Re: [OSM-dev] Notes - OSM improvements BoF at SOTM PDX

2012-10-16 Thread Martijn van Exel
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 8:48 PM, John Firebaugh john.fireba...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: Exporting raw data was never the primary purpose of the export tab - it was really added to address the constant request for the ability to export

Re: [OSM-dev] Notes - OSM improvements BoF at SOTM PDX

2012-10-16 Thread Alex Barth
On Oct 16, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: I agree with John that there is a need for a clear path for folks to the various data consumption options. I believe the Export tab should really be the Data tab, with options for * immediately downloading the current map

Re: [OSM-dev] Notes - OSM improvements BoF at SOTM PDX

2012-10-16 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/10/16 Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu: The problem I see is, other than pointing to planet.openstreetmap.org I'm not sure where else we would send them? You could point them here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Downloading_data I think what is really missing are some short explanations,

Re: [OSM-dev] Notes - OSM improvements BoF at SOTM PDX

2012-10-16 Thread Martijn van Exel
Wow, that page does look a lot like what I concocted this morning - see earlier in the thread or here is the link again: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dASGp5U0jRNZ3Kzb-LtzeOtUACqlLVh9GZdiKTftTOQ/edit My major concern with that page, now that I know it's there, is that there is no

[OSM-dev] Why are so many changeset so large?

2012-10-16 Thread Alex Barth
I really like how activity streams shows easy-to-understand changes on the map using changemonger [1,2]. At the same time it creates an alternative break down of changes that is more granular than changesets. This diverts attention from _comments on changesets_. This is not ideal in my mind -

Re: [OSM-dev] Why are so many changeset so large?

2012-10-16 Thread Tom Hughes
On 17/10/12 00:04, Alex Barth wrote: - What are the recommendations for change set sizes? Personally I tend to put everything that is logically grouped together in one changeset where possible. But by that I mean that I'll spend a few hours out collecting data in a small area and then

Re: [OSM-dev] Why are so many changeset so large?

2012-10-16 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi Alex, What do you mean by large? Do you mean changesets that span a large area (spanning whole continents)? Or changesets that have a lot of objects modified (perhaps more than 1000)? Based on the examples you provided, it seems you mean the former. Is this correct? Eugene On Wed, Oct 17,

Re: [OSM-dev] Blank Tiles at z23 and Deeper

2012-10-16 Thread jpk
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Jon Burgess jburgess...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 11:08 -0400, jpk wrote: The hash directory thing is good, and I can get that sorted (yay, progress!), but it doesn't explain all the sea-colored tiles at =z23 for tiles that aren't yet cached.

Re: [OSM-dev] Why are so many changeset so large?

2012-10-16 Thread Alex Barth
Eugene - right, I mean changesets that are geographically large. On Oct 16, 2012, at 8:03 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alex, What do you mean by large? Do you mean changesets that span a large area (spanning whole continents)? Or changesets that have a lot of

Re: [OSM-dev] Notes - OSM improvements BoF at SOTM PDX

2012-10-16 Thread Roland Olbricht
This would mean folding http://planet.osm.org/ into a future data tab, no? How do the planet osm maintainers see this? http://planet.openstreetmap.org is the interface from the main DB to all kind of data consuming services, including the renderers, Nominatim, Overpass API and several others.

Re: [OSM-dev] Why are so many changeset so large?

2012-10-16 Thread Paweł Paprota
On 10/17/2012 01:04 AM, Alex Barth wrote: I really like how activity streams shows easy-to-understand changes on the map using changemonger [1,2]. At the same time it creates an alternative break down of changes that is more granular than changesets. This diverts attention from _comments on

Re: [OSM-dev] Why are so many changeset so large?

2012-10-16 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe
On 10/17/2012 01:04 AM, Alex Barth wrote: - http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/13514072 wheelmap_visitor is sort of a bot, it uploads changes made to the wheelchair=* accessibility tags by anonymous users on http://wheelmap.org/ It only touches that one tag. It generates a new