Re: [OSM-dev] Interest in Vandalism Detection Project

[Kamalpreet Grewal]

On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 12:44 AM, Andy Townsend  wrote:

Hello Andy! Thank you for an elaborated reply.

> The first thing that I'd mention is that OSM is really more of a "platform"
> than a "project" - lots of things work with it, and many of the things that
> work with OSM data arenn't joined to other things that work with OSM data
> (you've probably already noticed this from reading [2] below).  So there
> isn't really a "central OSM project to detect vandalism", there are lots of
> people using lots of tools to detect anomalies in the OSM data (and fix
> them).

Okay. Found some at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Detect_Vandalism#Tools. I guess
this is what you referred to as 'tools'.

> The second thing is that personally I have a bit of a problem with the word
> "vandalism" to describe what most of these tools do, since most of the data
> problems that people looking for data anomalies find aren't really vandalism
> at all but mistakes of one form or another (for example, only today someone
> noticed that a particular building had been uploaded 26 times by accident).
> There are exceptions (politically motivated renamings is an example of a
> problem that OSM's Data Working Group[4] deals with), but actual vandalism
> is thankfully rare.

Okay, so not considering vandalism alone and taking in account other
anomalies that occur when users edit and update maps, I would shift my
focus to anomaly detection.


>
> What I'd also do is try and get a feel for adding data to OSM yourself - try
> and map things in your local area, if you haven't already.  That way you'll
> understand what people updating OpenStreetMap are trying to do, and it'll
> help you to "define the problem" above.

I will add data to OSM and see how things work for a clearer picture.

I would like to know the progress of OSM Anomaly Detection project. I
understand it is to detect anomalies in the OSM data. In one email
(back in 2012), I read that it has been abandoned. But it came up
again in 2015 (GSoC). After knowing the current status, I would like
to start working on this project. How should I proceed?

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[OSM-dev] Karlsruhe Hack Weekend October

[Frederik Ramm]

Hi,

   I just made the obligtory wiki page for our next Karlsruhe Hack Weekend:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Karlsruhe_Hack_Weekend_October_2016

As always, the event is open to all and has no fixed agenda, but if
you'd like to use it for something specific, be our guest ;)

Bye
Frederik

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Re: [OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap Carto release v2.43.0

[nebulon42]

Congrats to the sysadmin team on that. This will enable a lot of
improvements to the default style and is a big step forward!

Thanks,
Michael

Am 2016-09-06 um 13:52 schrieb Tom Hughes:
> On 06/09/16 12:20, Daniel Koć wrote:
> 
>> W dniu 06.09.2016 10:10, Tom Hughes napisał(a):
>>
>>> This release will likely be deployed next weekend once the third tile
>>> server has been upgraded.
>>
>> Will this upgrade bring any interesting features and optimizations or
>> it's just a typical system/security upgrade?
> 
> Well it brings the tile servers to mapnik 3 which may have a few
> immediate effects like improved rendering of asian scripts but which
> mostly allows future stylesheet updates to use mapnik 3 features.
> 
> Tom
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Re: [OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap Carto release v2.43.0

[Daniel Koć]

W dniu 06.09.2016 13:52, Tom Hughes napisał(a):


Well it brings the tile servers to mapnik 3 which may have a few
immediate effects like improved rendering of asian scripts but which
mostly allows future stylesheet updates to use mapnik 3 features.


That's great! This should be an improvement in itself, but also a base 
for other changes in osm-carto:


https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/milestone/4

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Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v2.43.0

[Daniel Koć]

W dniu 06.09.2016 10:10, Tom Hughes napisał(a):


This release will likely be deployed next weekend once the third tile
server has been upgraded.


Will this upgrade bring any interesting features and optimizations or 
it's just a typical system/security upgrade?


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Re: [OSM-dev] Tile usage without proper identification

[Tom Hughes]

On 06/09/16 10:22, Rory McCann wrote:

On 05/09/16 20:19, Tom Hughes wrote:

Those instructions are about setting up a web based map which shouldn't
normally hit any policy restrictions.


Those pages have examples which refer to the main openstreetmap.org tile
servers? So the OSM.org tile usage comes into play?


Nothing in those instructions will cause requests to be sent without a
referer or user agent so there shouldn't be any problem with a site
which is built following those instructions?


If you're on a HTTPS site, and access a HTTP resource, browsers will not
send a HTTP referer. Those instructions have http:// links.

The simplest solution would probably be to change the URLs in those
documents to htts://{s}.tile.blah Then it will work fine with HTTP and
HTTPS hosted web pages.


Or just protocol relative links as //{s}.tile.blah indeed, but thanks 
for explaining.


Hopefully the switch2osm maintainers will be able to make that edit.

Tom

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Re: [OSM-dev] Tile usage without proper identification

[Rory McCann]

On 05/09/16 20:19, Tom Hughes wrote:
> Those instructions are about setting up a web based map which shouldn't
> normally hit any policy restrictions.

Those pages have examples which refer to the main openstreetmap.org tile
servers? So the OSM.org tile usage comes into play?

> Nothing in those instructions will cause requests to be sent without a
> referer or user agent so there shouldn't be any problem with a site
> which is built following those instructions?

If you're on a HTTPS site, and access a HTTP resource, browsers will not
send a HTTP referer. Those instructions have http:// links.

The simplest solution would probably be to change the URLs in those
documents to htts://{s}.tile.blah Then it will work fine with HTTP and
HTTPS hosted web pages.

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Re: [OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap Carto release v2.43.0

[Tom Hughes]

On 06/09/16 01:33, Paul Norman wrote:


Today, v2.43.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet (the default
stylesheet on openstreetmap.org) has been released. It has not yet
been rolled out to the openstreetmap.org servers.


I'll just add to this to say that on this occasion there will probably 
be a short delay as we are in the middle of working through a cycle of 
software updates on the tile servers.


This release will likely be deployed next weekend once the third tile 
server has been upgraded.


Tom

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