Re: [OSM-dev] OSRM on osm.org not working

2017-10-01 Thread Greg Troxel 

Greg Troxel  writes:

> Separate issue I think, but I notice that routing does not recover after
> using ORSM.

Sorry, this was already in the tracker:

https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/issues/1519


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Re: [OSM-dev] OSRM on osm.org not working

2017-10-01 Thread Stadin, Benjamin 
Just my personal opinion: From the three mentioned routing services in the PR 
(OSRM, GraphHopper, Mapzen) I find Mapzen to be the most open, and technically 
quite mature nowadays.

Where other solutions start to separate data and tech stack for commercial 
reasons, Mapzen seems to be still dedicated to open data and actively pushes 
open data projects like Transitland (public transportation data project). At 
least that's what they say [1], and by the first experiments I did with 
Valhalla it seems they live up to it.

Ben

[1] https://mapzen.com/products/



Am 01.10.2017 um 15:59 schrieb Tom Hughes 
mailto:t...@compton.nu>>:

On 01/10/17 14:28, joost schouppe wrote:

Apparently, OSRM routing on osm.org  has been 
down for a few days. I have no idea how the implementation really works, or 
where the correct tracker would be. But I'm sure someone here knows.

See https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/pull/1637.

Unfortunately the OSRM demo server that we were using was taken offline without 
any warning I think on the assumption that we would be happy to simply switch 
to using a free account on the commercial Mapbox routing platform in it's place 
but I'm reluctant to do that.

The problem is that as far as I know there aren't really any practical 
non-commercial routing solutions using OSM data that we could switch to without 
having to run our own, and that will obviously take time to arrange.

In the short term we likely need to merge that PR with a few tweaks but there 
remains a question about how we avoid giving undue promotion to one particular 
commercial solution.

Tom

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Re: [OSM-dev] OSRM on osm.org not working

2017-10-01 Thread Greg Troxel 

Separate issue I think, but I notice that routing does not recover after
using ORSM.

To reproduce

  at www.openstreetmap.org

  drop start/end pings with right click

  click on selection and go down the list looking at each route

  at ORSM, notice the error message "Couldn't find a route between those
  two places."

  click to "Foot (GraphHopper)" and notice the message is still there.
  Click "go" and see a route.

  click to "Foot (Mapzen)" and notice the you get (very slightly)
  different foot directions, without having to click Go.


This actually confused me quite a while ago when either one engine
couldn't find a route or was down, and I didn't realize that a
newly-selected engine didn't work without the go button.

If somebody tells me I'm not confused about this and it would be
helpful, I'm happy to file this at
https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/issues



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Re: [OSM-dev] OSRM on osm.org not working

2017-10-01 Thread Tom Hughes 

On 01/10/17 14:28, joost schouppe wrote:

Apparently, OSRM routing on osm.org  has been down for a 
few days. I have no idea how the implementation really works, or where 
the correct tracker would be. But I'm sure someone here knows.


See https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/pull/1637.

Unfortunately the OSRM demo server that we were using was taken offline 
without any warning I think on the assumption that we would be happy to 
simply switch to using a free account on the commercial Mapbox routing 
platform in it's place but I'm reluctant to do that.


The problem is that as far as I know there aren't really any practical 
non-commercial routing solutions using OSM data that we could switch to 
without having to run our own, and that will obviously take time to arrange.


In the short term we likely need to merge that PR with a few tweaks but 
there remains a question about how we avoid giving undue promotion to 
one particular commercial solution.


Tom

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[OSM-dev] OSRM on osm.org not working

2017-10-01 Thread joost schouppe 
Hi,

Apparently, OSRM routing on osm.org has been down for a few days. I have no
idea how the implementation really works, or where the correct tracker
would be. But I'm sure someone here knows.

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