Re: [OSM-dev] Sync time in OSM file

2019-05-30 Thread Ajay Singh1 via dev
Yes. I'll go through the documentation before using it :)

On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 3:26 PM  wrote:

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> Am 30.05.19 um 09:40 schrieb Ajay Singh1 via dev:
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> So, osmupdate will update my local copy with changes done in
> openstreetmap.org and I can ignore geofabric's copy as of now, right?
>
> Don't forget to use the *-B* option (
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmupdate#Applying_Geographical_Borders),
> otherwise your local data will get bigger and bigger because of *worldwide
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Re: [OSM-dev] Sync time in OSM file

2019-05-30 Thread Ajay Singh1 via dev
Thanks for the clarification.

On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 1:16 PM Gerd Petermann <
gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Developer Discussion mailing list wrote
> > So, osmupdate will update my local copy with changes done in
> > openstreetmap.org and I can ignore geofabric's copy as of now, right?
>
> I think so, please try it.
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Re: [OSM-dev] Sync time in OSM file

2019-05-30 Thread Ajay Singh1 via dev
Yes. That's what I wanted to ask. Thanks.

On Thu, May 30, 2019, 1:15 PM Mateusz Konieczny 
wrote:

> 30 May 2019, 08:44 by dev@openstreetmap.org:
>
> Also, what is the difference in sync time when I choose "Allow for review"
> after I add a new road?
>
> None, in both cases edits are immediately saved into database and
> distributed
> (it would be phrased better as "Request review of my edits" - which editor
> is using
> "Allow for review" phrase? Anybody may review any edits).
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Re: [OSM-dev] Sync time in OSM file

2019-05-30 Thread Ajay Singh1 via dev
So, osmupdate will update my local copy with changes done in
openstreetmap.org and I can ignore geofabric's copy as of now, right?

On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 1:02 PM Gerd Petermann <
gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> My understanding is that geofabrik keeps a copy of the OSM database. I
> don't know what tools they use to keep that database in sync with OSM and
> what exactly is done to create the extracts. Osmupdate is a tool which
> allows to update an extract with the diffs. You probably don't get exactly
> the same results
> but for many purposes it works fine.
>
> Gerd
>
>
> 
> Von: Ajay Singh1 
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Mai 2019 09:21
> An: Gerd Petermann
> Cc: dev@openstreetmap.org
> Betreff: Re: [OSM-dev] Sync time in OSM file
>
> Thanks, Gerd. That was helpful.
> This OSMupdate keep my local copy in sync with OSM file services, e.g.
> geofabrik.de<http://geofabrik.de>. but these file services will
> themselves take one day to update them with changes done in
> openstreetmap.org<http://openstreetmap.org>. Am I right?
>
> On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 12:41 PM Gerd Petermann <
> gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com<mailto:gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com>>
> wrote:
> I think the pbf extracts from geofabrik are typically updated once per
> day. If you want to keep such an extract up to date you should look at the
> diffs, see also https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmupdate
>
> Not sure what is meant with "Allow for review", I assume it is a tag that
> is set in the changeset.
> This tag means that other mappers should review your change, it has no
> influence on the sync time, and AFAIK there is no guarantee that this
> review will ever happen.
>
> Gerd
>
> 
> Von: Ajay Singh1 via dev  dev@openstreetmap.org>>
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Mai 2019 08:44
> An: dev@openstreetmap.org<mailto:dev@openstreetmap.org>
> Betreff: [OSM-dev] Sync time in OSM file
>
> Hi Team,
>
> I've added few roads via openstreetmap.org<http://openstreetmap.org><
> http://openstreetmap.org> manually. I wanted to know how much time does
> it take to reflect this change into India's PBF file. I use
> https://download.geofabrik.de/asia/india.html to download the file.
>
> Also, what is the difference in sync time when I choose "Allow for review"
> after I add a new road?
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Re: [OSM-dev] Sync time in OSM file

2019-05-30 Thread Ajay Singh1 via dev
Thanks, Gerd. That was helpful.
This OSMupdate keep my local copy in sync with OSM file services, e.g.
geofabrik.de. but these file services will themselves take one day to
update them with changes done in openstreetmap.org. Am I right?

On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 12:41 PM Gerd Petermann <
gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I think the pbf extracts from geofabrik are typically updated once per
> day. If you want to keep such an extract up to date you should look at the
> diffs, see also https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmupdate
>
> Not sure what is meant with "Allow for review", I assume it is a tag that
> is set in the changeset.
> This tag means that other mappers should review your change, it has no
> influence on the sync time, and AFAIK there is no guarantee that this
> review will ever happen.
>
> Gerd
>
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> Von: Ajay Singh1 via dev 
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Mai 2019 08:44
> An: dev@openstreetmap.org
> Betreff: [OSM-dev] Sync time in OSM file
>
> Hi Team,
>
> I've added few roads via openstreetmap.org<http://openstreetmap.org>
> manually. I wanted to know how much time does it take to reflect this
> change into India's PBF file. I use
> https://download.geofabrik.de/asia/india.html to download the file.
>
> Also, what is the difference in sync time when I choose "Allow for review"
> after I add a new road?
>
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[OSM-dev] Sync time in OSM file

2019-05-30 Thread Ajay Singh1 via dev
Hi Team,

I've added few roads via openstreetmap.org manually. I wanted to know how
much time does it take to reflect this change into India's PBF file. I use
https://download.geofabrik.de/asia/india.html to download the file.

Also, what is the difference in sync time when I choose "Allow for review"
after I add a new road?

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Re: [OSM-dev] Workflow for bulk upload of GPX files

2019-05-29 Thread Ajay Singh1 via dev
Hi Joost,

Thanks for your help. I'm exploring HOTOSM's tasking-manager for this task.
Here also, we get to break down our task into smaller tasks and can be
better tracked. Also, I'm trying to get in touch with other mappers to get
some help here.

Is there anybody you know of who has prior experience with this process?


On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 4:13 PM joost schouppe 
wrote:

> You might have a decent shot of getting volunteers to map this if you
> create a Maproulette challenge. I imagine the roads are sparse, and spread
> out of a larger area. So turn them into individual objects, which can be
> mapped in little time. For example, from a few dozen to a few kilometer
> long sections of a single road. Or perhaps a few adjecent roads. These
> become individual microtasks in Maproulette. You might split them up per
> country and get in touch with several local communities. These tasks are
> rather fun to do (especially if your pre-processing is good) so you might
> actually get some work done.
>
> As for "how to recrute paid mappers", I'm not sure. I know Kaart and
> Telenav do similar work, so they might be interested. Here's some
> activities that follow the "organized editing guideliness", and hence have
> a record in "activities". Note that many of these are not commercial.
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organised_Editing/Activities
> https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Organised_Editing_Guidelines
>
> Op ma 27 mei 2019 om 11:53 schreef Ajay Singh1 via dev <
> dev@openstreetmap.org>:
>
>> Hi Marc,
>>
>> Sorry for the late reply but I meant that are there any mappers whom I
>> can hire to get the mapping done as there are thousand of roads to be
>> mapped?
>>
>> On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 10:40 PM marc marc 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Le 20.05.19 à 19:03, Ajay Singh1 a écrit :
>>> > I can just upload and someone else will make roads by looking at that
>>> trace.
>>>
>>> of course.
>>> but since there is no toolsosm.org api for a contributor to download
>>> the unprocessed traces, it is like hoping that someone else will do
>>> all the work again that you have done of detecting that these traces are
>>> missing ways in osm
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Re: [OSM-dev] Workflow for bulk upload of GPX files

2019-05-27 Thread Ajay Singh1 via dev
Hi Marc,

Sorry for the late reply but I meant that are there any mappers whom I can
hire to get the mapping done as there are thousand of roads to be mapped?

On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 10:40 PM marc marc 
wrote:

> Le 20.05.19 à 19:03, Ajay Singh1 a écrit :
> > I can just upload and someone else will make roads by looking at that
> trace.
>
> of course.
> but since there is no toolsosm.org api for a contributor to download
> the unprocessed traces, it is like hoping that someone else will do
> all the work again that you have done of detecting that these traces are
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Re: [OSM-dev] Workflow for bulk upload of GPX files

2019-05-20 Thread Ajay Singh1 via dev
Hi Joseph,

Thanks for the detailed information. I'll try these options.

For leveraging the tasking-manager, I was assuming that I'll need a team of
mappers who will manually create the ways by looking at the trace I've
uploaded. Is there any alternative way? e.g. I can just upload and someone
else will make roads by looking at that trace.

On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 7:50 PM marc marc  wrote:

> if you want to add yourself all these missing ways in osm,
> a simpler workflow :
> give a part to each one
> load the gpx trace with the editor of your choice
> simplify and connect it to the concerned ways, add tags
> upload the new ways into osm.
> some will say you may send the trace too.
> once finished, delete the trace of your computer
> or move it to a "done" directory
>
> and so on with the next trace until you finish your part :)
>
> Le 20.05.19 à 15:12, Ajay Singh1 via dev a écrit :
> > Hi Joseph,
> >
> > Thanks for your response. I've extensively cleaned the GPX data and I'm
> > marking only those roads as 'missing' ones where I'm getting trace more
> > than a threshold number of times, say 5 times.
> >
> > Few questions -
> > 1. Should I use something like
> > https://github.com/hotosm/tasking-manager to manage the entire process?
> > 2. As you mentioned - "/If possible, the mappers should look at more
> > than one GPS trace on the/
> > /road: /", do the mapper has to look at GPS in one tab and then make the
> > corresponding change in openstreetmap.org <http://openstreetmap.org>?
> > I've checked various ways to upload GPX data on OSM but I'm not getting
> > it right.
> >
> > Is there any documentation/tutorial for this process?
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 5:56 PM Joseph Eisenberg
> > mailto:joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Ajay,
> >
> > It's great that you are adding more GPS traces for mappers to use.
> > These are really helpful for checking the offset of aerial imagery
> and
> > finding roads and paths to map.
> >
> > I think you first 2 steps look fine. As far as tags for GPS traces,
> > you can look at some other traces in your area to see what mappers
> > usually add. It's common to mention that the trace was obtained by
> > motorcycle, for example
> >
> > For the 3rd step, make sure you follow the best practice for adding
> > highways to OSM. Don't import the GPS traces directly.
> >
> > A single GPS trace along a road will be offset from the centerline,
> > since the motorcyclist has to travel on one side of the road. Also,
> > GPS traces may have errors due to problems with poor signal or
> > reflections in some areas. And GPS traces have too many nodes on
> > strait sections, but sometimes too few around curves.
> >
> > If possible, the mappers should look at more than one GPS trace on
> the
> > road: at least one from each direction, so that the center of the
> road
> > is clear. If possible, also check aerial imagery and compare to the
> > GPS trace. The mappers can use the GPS traces and the aerial imagery
> > together to find the centerline of the highway and map that, using
> the
> > right number of nodes for straight sections and curves.
> >
> > Because of this, it's not possible to find out exactly how many of
> > your GPX files have become roads. But if you are adding GPS traces on
> > roads that are currently missing in OSM, it's very likely that your
> > work will be a main reason that new roads are added, and it will also
> > make them more accurate.
> >
> > On 5/17/19, Ajay Singh1 via dev  > <mailto:dev@openstreetmap.org>> wrote:
> >  > Hi Team,
> >  >
> >  > I have got a few thousand cleaned GPX files of motorbikes. These
> > trace
> >  > files majorly represent missing roads in OSM (which I have
> > derived by using
> >  > months of bikers data and identifying tracepoints which are not
> > near any of
> >  > the road segments in OSM).
> >  > I want to contribute to OSM on a regular basis and want to take
> > an opinion
> >  > on my workflow for submission of these trace files to OSM.
> >  >
> >  > Workflow:
> >  >  1. Upload all GPX files in bulk using OSM UI(
> >  > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Upload_GPS_tracks) or using
> API(
> >  > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/API_v0.6).
> >  >  2. Pa

Re: [OSM-dev] Workflow for bulk upload of GPX files

2019-05-20 Thread Ajay Singh1 via dev
Hi Joseph,

Thanks for your response. I've extensively cleaned the GPX data and I'm
marking only those roads as 'missing' ones where I'm getting trace more
than a threshold number of times, say 5 times.

Few questions -
1. Should I use something like https://github.com/hotosm/tasking-manager to
manage the entire process?
2. As you mentioned - "*If possible, the mappers should look at more than
one GPS trace on the*
*road: *", do the mapper has to look at GPS in one tab and then make the
corresponding change in openstreetmap.org? I've checked various ways to
upload GPX data on OSM but I'm not getting it right.

Is there any documentation/tutorial for this process?


On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 5:56 PM Joseph Eisenberg 
wrote:

> Ajay,
>
> It's great that you are adding more GPS traces for mappers to use.
> These are really helpful for checking the offset of aerial imagery and
> finding roads and paths to map.
>
> I think you first 2 steps look fine. As far as tags for GPS traces,
> you can look at some other traces in your area to see what mappers
> usually add. It's common to mention that the trace was obtained by
> motorcycle, for example
>
> For the 3rd step, make sure you follow the best practice for adding
> highways to OSM. Don't import the GPS traces directly.
>
> A single GPS trace along a road will be offset from the centerline,
> since the motorcyclist has to travel on one side of the road. Also,
> GPS traces may have errors due to problems with poor signal or
> reflections in some areas. And GPS traces have too many nodes on
> strait sections, but sometimes too few around curves.
>
> If possible, the mappers should look at more than one GPS trace on the
> road: at least one from each direction, so that the center of the road
> is clear. If possible, also check aerial imagery and compare to the
> GPS trace. The mappers can use the GPS traces and the aerial imagery
> together to find the centerline of the highway and map that, using the
> right number of nodes for straight sections and curves.
>
> Because of this, it's not possible to find out exactly how many of
> your GPX files have become roads. But if you are adding GPS traces on
> roads that are currently missing in OSM, it's very likely that your
> work will be a main reason that new roads are added, and it will also
> make them more accurate.
>
> On 5/17/19, Ajay Singh1 via dev  wrote:
> > Hi Team,
> >
> > I have got a few thousand cleaned GPX files of motorbikes. These trace
> > files majorly represent missing roads in OSM (which I have derived by
> using
> > months of bikers data and identifying tracepoints which are not near any
> of
> > the road segments in OSM).
> > I want to contribute to OSM on a regular basis and want to take an
> opinion
> > on my workflow for submission of these trace files to OSM.
> >
> > Workflow:
> >  1. Upload all GPX files in bulk using OSM UI(
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Upload_GPS_tracks) or using API(
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/API_v0.6).
> >  2. Pass some GPS-tags, e.g. name, id, status, etc. So, that I can query
> > data that I have uploaded.
> >  3. Have a team of 2-3 people who can then use JOSM or other editors to
> > make ways/roads from this GPX data to OSM
> >
> > Questions:
> >  1. Is this a correct workflow for uploading and making ways/roads from
> GPX
> > files?
> >  2. Can I use GPS-tags to track of how many gpx files have been converted
> > into ways/roads?
> >
> > Also, Is there any alternative to have this capability?
> >
> > Awaiting a quick response.
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> >
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[OSM-dev] Workflow for bulk upload of GPX files

2019-05-17 Thread Ajay Singh1 via dev
Hi Team,

I have got a few thousand cleaned GPX files of motorbikes. These trace
files majorly represent missing roads in OSM (which I have derived by using
months of bikers data and identifying tracepoints which are not near any of
the road segments in OSM).
I want to contribute to OSM on a regular basis and want to take an opinion
on my workflow for submission of these trace files to OSM.

Workflow:
 1. Upload all GPX files in bulk using OSM UI(
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Upload_GPS_tracks) or using API(
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/API_v0.6).
 2. Pass some GPS-tags, e.g. name, id, status, etc. So, that I can query
data that I have uploaded.
 3. Have a team of 2-3 people who can then use JOSM or other editors to
make ways/roads from this GPX data to OSM

Questions:
 1. Is this a correct workflow for uploading and making ways/roads from GPX
files?
 2. Can I use GPS-tags to track of how many gpx files have been converted
into ways/roads?

Also, Is there any alternative to have this capability?

Awaiting a quick response.

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