Re: [OSM-dev] Gauss-Krüger coordinate s for kosoov?

2009-08-03 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Domingo, 2 de Agosto de 2009, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com escribió:
[...]
 1. can you help me transform them?

From the data I gathered from the .pdf you linked, it seems that this cs2cs 
command line should be able to do the proper reprojection from KOSOVOREF1 to 
WGS84:

cs2cs +ellps=GRS80 +units=m +proj=tmerc +k=0. +lon_0=21 +lat_0=0 +y_0=0 
+x_0=750 +to +init=epsg:4326

If you delve into the documentation of proj.4 and its utilities (cs2cs, 
ogr2ogr, etc) you should be able to batch reproject any files you want; or 
you can mail me the files and I'll reproject them for you.

I'm not an expert in projection systems, so that cs2cs command line should be 
reviewed by the authors of the .pdfs you linked to, in order to get some 
reassurance about it.


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Re: [OSM-dev] Gauss-Krüger coordinate s for kosoov ?

2009-08-03 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
Thank you kindly.
Muchos Gracias Muchacho.
I will try it out and report back.
Thansk,

mike

2009/8/3 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es

 El Domingo, 2 de Agosto de 2009, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com escribió:
 [...]
  1. can you help me transform them?

 From the data I gathered from the .pdf you linked, it seems that this cs2cs
 command line should be able to do the proper reprojection from KOSOVOREF1
 to
 WGS84:

 cs2cs +ellps=GRS80 +units=m +proj=tmerc +k=0. +lon_0=21 +lat_0=0 +y_0=0
 +x_0=750 +to +init=epsg:4326

 If you delve into the documentation of proj.4 and its utilities (cs2cs,
 ogr2ogr, etc) you should be able to batch reproject any files you want; or
 you can mail me the files and I'll reproject them for you.

 I'm not an expert in projection systems, so that cs2cs command line should
 be
 reviewed by the authors of the .pdfs you linked to, in order to get some
 reassurance about it.


 Cheers,
 --
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 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es

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Re: [OSM-dev] Gauss-Krüger coordinate s for kosoov ?

2009-08-03 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
Ok, I have done some tests, I repost my diary:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/h4ck3rm1k3/diary/7359

here are more data points:
http://pastebin.com/m56db7289

Here is my conversion script :
cs2cs +ellps=GRS80 +units=m +proj=tmerc +k=0. +lon_0=21 +lat_0=0 +y_0=0
-f %.3f  kosovopoints.src | perl ~/kosovo_maps/testconvert.pl
newpoints.tml

http://www.pastebin.ca/1517014
use strict;
use warnings;

print q[?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?

];

my $id=0;
while ()
{

if (/^\s*(\d+\.\d+)\s+(\d+\.\d+)\s+(\d+\.\d+)\s*$/)
{
$id--;
print qq[];
}
else
{
die error $_;
}

}

print q[];

The result is not good :

http://filebin.ca/obheaq/test.osm


it is just a straight line... somewhere in romania...


2009/8/3 jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com

 Thank you kindly.
 Muchos Gracias Muchacho.
 I will try it out and report back.
 Thansk,

 mike

 2009/8/3 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es

 El Domingo, 2 de Agosto de 2009, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com escribió:
 [...]
  1. can you help me transform them?

 From the data I gathered from the .pdf you linked, it seems that this
 cs2cs
 command line should be able to do the proper reprojection from KOSOVOREF1
 to
 WGS84:

 cs2cs +ellps=GRS80 +units=m +proj=tmerc +k=0. +lon_0=21 +lat_0=0
 +y_0=0
 +x_0=750 +to +init=epsg:4326

 If you delve into the documentation of proj.4 and its utilities (cs2cs,
 ogr2ogr, etc) you should be able to batch reproject any files you want; or
 you can mail me the files and I'll reproject them for you.

 I'm not an expert in projection systems, so that cs2cs command line should
 be
 reviewed by the authors of the .pdfs you linked to, in order to get some
 reassurance about it.


 Cheers,
 --
 --
 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es

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 compleja.



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Re: [OSM-dev] Gauss-Krüger coordinate s for kosoov?

2009-08-03 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Lunes, 3 de Agosto de 2009, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com escribió:
 Here is my conversion script :
 cs2cs +ellps=GRS80 +units=m +proj=tmerc +k=0. +lon_0=21 +lat_0=0 +y_0=0
 -f %.3f  kosovopoints.src | perl ~/kosovo_maps/testconvert.pl
 newpoints.tml

Well, you're missing half of the projection parameters. Namely, the false 
easting and the destination projection (EPSG 4326, which means WGS84 in 
lat-lon, the stuff that OSM uses).

With this:

cs2cs +ellps=GRS80 +units=m +proj=tmerc +k=0. +lon_0=21 +lat_0=0 +y_0=0 
+x_0=750 +to +init=epsg:4326 -f %.15f  kosova_test_points.txt   
kosova_test_points_wgs84.txt

I'm able to successfully reproject the points with no problems at all.

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[OSM-dev] Gauss-Krüger coordinate s for kosoov ?

2009-08-02 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
Hi,

I found some coordinates here, the official ones of kosovo , but they are
not in standard format.
I know there must be a way to do this :

1. can you help me transform them?
2. can someone do this?

Transformation of the ETRS89 coordinates into the new Gauss-Krüger
coordinate
system using program GEOREF. (File PROJNEU.PRN)

1st order network of points in KOSOVOREF01 in Kosovo.
Pt ID E N Ellips. Height Off. Height
BA01 7522538.4899 4743287.9845 689.3813 643.7452
DE01 7444008.5655 4705339.1564 566.3720 521.7577
DR01 7470424.2332 4658348.9977 1074.0462 1029.7358
FE01 7510693.7911 4691608.0842 659.6860 614.4528
FK01 7505655.2632 4721903.4453 584.7155 539.4641
GI01 7535883.9666 4702986.8964 640.0816 594.

http://www.euref-iag.net/symposia/2005Vienna/6-14.pdf
http://www.kca-ks.org/download/report_020-033_v3_final.pdf

n New KOSOVAREF01 based on EUREF
http://www.fig.net/commission7/france_2004/papers_am/ts_10_1_meha_ppt.pdf

The state coordinate system of the Republic of Kosova (KOSOVAREF01) was
defined on
year 2001, based on ETRS89 datum and Gauss-Krüger projection with 1dm/km
negative
linear deformation along the central meridian (21E) and 750m false
easting. Due to
small area of Kosova, all territory projects with negative value in which
the largest linear
deformation (LD) is -10cm/km, i.e. the mean linear deformation (MLD) is
8.7cm/km.
In efforts for finding of coordinate system with smallest LD, Gauss-Krüger
projection with
scale factors 0.6 and 0.67, as well as without negative LD
(tangential case) were
researched also. In first variant (0.6) the maximum LD is 4cm/km in
which 2.93cm/km is
the MLD, the second option (0.67) provides the largest LD 4.6cm/km with
MLD
2.46cm/km, and Gauss-Krüger projection in tangential variant gives the
better MLD
(1.3cm/km) in which the largest LD is 7.9cm/km.
Due to configuration of the territory of Kosova, Lambert conic conformal and
stereographic
projections are probably the suitable as most appropriate state map
projections. UTM
projection as international has been utilized also.
In a stereographic tangential projection the largest value of LD is
4.18cm/km, in which case
the value of MLD is 1.17cm/km. With the target to reduce the deformations in
half value, due
to the difference distances of extreme points from the central point,
-2.1cm/km (0.79)
and -1.9cm/km (081) LD in central point were used as extended options of
stereographic
projection. In first case the maximum LD is -2.1cm/km, in which the MLD is
1.08cm/km, as
well in a second effort, the biggest LD is 2.28cm/km with 0.94cm/km MLD.
During projecting of the territory in Lambert conic conformal projection, in
tangential case
the largest LD is 7.69cm/km, in which MLD of the whole territory is
1.15cm/km. Using of
negative LD from -3.8cm/km (0.62) gives the interval of deformations
from -3.8 to
3.89cm/km with 2.85cm/km MLD in whole territory.
Because of the small area of Kosova, utilization of UTM projection provides
very large LD,
i.e. in interval between -39.21 to -40dm/km. MLD in all territory is
39.87cm/km.
Based on upper results, most appropriate state map projection of the
Republic of Kosova for
local use is Stereographic projection with scale factor 0.79, but
utilization of UTM
projection for international use is irreplaceable.

Can someone decode that?
http://www.fig.net/pub/fig2009/papers/ts04c/ts04c_idrizi_bajrami_lubishtani_3350.pdf

Thanks
mike
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