Re: [OSM-dev] Spam in Users' Diaries and Users' Pages

2010-03-16 Thread Lars Francke
Mostly likely we will wind up adding a moderation queue and moderating new users first few diary entries. I don't have any developer experience with it but Akismet[1] seems to work quite well on Wordpress and we seem to get the same kind of spam I regularly see in my Wordpress spam queue. They

Re: [OSM-dev] Spam in Users' Diaries and Users' Pages

2010-03-16 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
What about a default filter for the main page that only shows people who have x number of edits. Or allow people who are established user to approve or vote on new entries from new people. I think there should be a way to report spam effectively, that would be the best solution. mike On Mon, Mar

Re: [OSM-dev] Spam in Users' Diaries and Users' Pages

2010-03-16 Thread Tom Hughes
On 16/03/10 11:33, Lars Francke wrote: I don't have any developer experience with it but Akismet[1] seems to work quite well on Wordpress and we seem to get the same kind of spam I regularly see in my Wordpress spam queue. They seem to be focused solely on blogs and especially Wordpress blogs

Re: [OSM-dev] Spam in Users' Diaries and Users' Pages

2010-03-16 Thread Dan Karran
On 16 March 2010 11:43, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: I already looked at Akismet but as you say, we would have to pay unless we counted as a non-profit and then we would have to put links everywhere. Could Mollom[1] be an option? I'm not sure we really fit into the 'small community site'

Re: [OSM-dev] Spam in Users' Diaries and Users' Pages

2010-03-16 Thread Grant Slater
On 16 March 2010 11:58, Matt Williams li...@milliams.com wrote: Mollom is an alternative to Akismet but it suffers the same problems. Otherwise SpamAssassin should mostly do the trick. There is also http://defensio.com/ which is free during beta. Although depending on the interpretation we

Re: [OSM-dev] Spam in Users' Diaries and Users' Pages

2010-03-16 Thread Andy Deakin
Hi, On some sites I mange, there are lists of suspicious words/markup. If there are too many of these in the post (call it a spam score), then they are sent to a 'please confirm you are human', where an anti-bot code must be entered before the post is allowed. Andy

Re: [OSM-dev] Spam in Users' Diaries and Users' Pages

2010-03-16 Thread Andreas Labres
Why don't you set up your own (non-standard) challenge, some kind of: Here are 6 pictures, select those two that show a stop-sign. You could permutate the pictures, kind of signs and filenames randomly. Other than some kind of mathematical challenge (like in the wiki) this would be somehow

Re: [OSM-dev] Spam in Users' Diaries and Users' Pages

2010-03-16 Thread Ian Dees
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Andreas Labres l...@lab.at wrote: Why don't you set up your own (non-standard) challenge, some kind of:   Here are 6 pictures, select those two that show a stop-sign. I get the impression that the people posting spam are actually humans going through the

Re: [OSM-dev] Spam in Users' Diaries and Users' Pages

2010-03-16 Thread Dirk-Lüder Kreie
Andy Deakin schrieb: Hi, On some sites I mange, there are lists of suspicious words/markup. If there are too many of these in the post (call it a spam score), then they are sent to a 'please confirm you are human', where an anti-bot code must be entered before the post is allowed. I

Re: [OSM-dev] Spam in Users' Diaries and Users' Pages

2010-03-16 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Ian Dees wrote: I would rather see an interim solution of having flag as spam links on every diary page (and in the RSS) and then a bunch of moderators to take care of heavily-flagged items. I volunteer to be one of these moderators. Can't we do something that is more related to our core

Re: [OSM-dev] Spam in Users' Diaries and Users' Pages

2010-03-16 Thread Emilie Laffray
On 16 March 2010 14:18, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, Ian Dees wrote: I would rather see an interim solution of having flag as spam links on every diary page (and in the RSS) and then a bunch of moderators to take care of heavily-flagged items. I volunteer to be one of

Re: [OSM-dev] Spam in Users' Diaries and Users' Pages

2010-03-16 Thread Robert (Jamie) Munro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom Hughes wrote: On 15/03/10 13:21, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: I think one really effective way of dealing with this is to reject addition of a user description or a diary entry if the user is quite new and has no OSM edits yet. This would

Re: [OSM-dev] Spam in Users' Diaries and Users' Pages

2010-03-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 March 2010 09:45, Robert (Jamie) Munro rjmu...@arjam.net wrote: But we need not make that description or their diary entries visible to other users until they have gained some reputation on the site - presumably by making map edits. This is a dangerous path, it's too easy for these

Re: [OSM-dev] Spam in Users' Diaries and Users' Pages

2010-03-16 Thread Gregory
On 16 March 2010 17:33, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 March 2010 09:45, Robert (Jamie) Munro rjmu...@arjam.net wrote: But we need not make that description or their diary entries visible to other users until they have gained some reputation on the site - presumably by

[OSM-dev] Spam in Users' Diaries and Users' Pages

2010-03-15 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi guys, The spam on users' diaries and users' pages is getting quite annoying. Some user just now flooded the main diary page with drug ads. Using rel=nofollow is apparently not much of a deterrent. I think one really effective way of dealing with this is to reject addition of a user

Re: [OSM-dev] Spam in Users' Diaries and Users' Pages

2010-03-15 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Correction: ... reject addition of a user description or a diary entry *with a link or a URL*... This is to reduce false positives. On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote: Hi guys, The spam on users' diaries and users' pages is getting quite annoying.

Re: [OSM-dev] Spam in Users' Diaries and Users' Pages

2010-03-15 Thread Tom Hughes
On 15/03/10 13:21, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: I think one really effective way of dealing with this is to reject addition of a user description or a diary entry if the user is quite new and has no OSM edits yet. This would correspond to the Wikipedia user without the autoconfirmed bit set