Re: [OSM-dev] tirex and mapnik 3, make deb fails

2014-07-01 Thread Jan-Benedict Glaw
On Tue, 2014-07-01 01:58:38 +0200, Stephan Knauss o...@stephans-server.de wrote: I try to compile tirex (mapnik backend) against Mapnik 3. changing this line in debian/rules allowed me to ignore the error: dh_shlibdeps --dpkg-shlibdeps-params=--ignore-missing-info Won't work: A dep is missing

Re: [OSM-dev] tirex and mapnik 3, make deb fails

2014-07-01 Thread Stephan Knauss
Jan-Benedict Glaw writes: On Tue, 2014-07-01 01:58:38 +0200, Stephan Knauss o...@stephans-server.de wrote: I try to compile tirex (mapnik backend) against Mapnik 3. changing this line in debian/rules allowed me to ignore the error: dh_shlibdeps --dpkg-shlibdeps-params=--ignore-missing-info

Re: [OSM-dev] tirex and mapnik 3, make deb fails

2014-07-01 Thread Sven Geggus
Stephan Knauss o...@stephans-server.de wrote: Is a newer build automatically recognized as a newer package? No, use dch -i Regards Sven -- Der wichtigste Aspekt, den Sie vor der Entscheidung für ein Open Source-Betriebssystem bedenken sollten, ist, dass Sie kein Windows-Betriebssystem

Re: [OSM-dev] tirex and mapnik 3, make deb fails

2014-07-01 Thread Stephan Knauss
Sven Geggus writes: Stephan Knauss o...@stephans-server.de wrote: Is a newer build automatically recognized as a newer package? No, use dch -i The last entry in tirex's debian/changelog is more than two years old. So its quite safe to assume that upstream changes will not result in new

[OSM-dev] tirex and mapnik 3, make deb fails

2014-06-30 Thread Stephan Knauss
I try to compile tirex (mapnik backend) against Mapnik 3. All done on ubuntu 14.04. Unfortunately it fails. make runs fine, but doing make deb after that produces errors. First problem was that it complained to not find mapnik-config. After patching the Makefile to contain the results of the

[OSM-dev] tirex: Can't locate mapscript.pm

2013-04-15 Thread Marcus Kruse
Hello, where can I find the mapscript.pm? Greetings, Marcus ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev

Re: [OSM-dev] tirex: Can't locate mapscript.pm

2013-04-15 Thread Sven Geggus
Marcus Kruse kr...@vivai.de wrote: where can I find the mapscript.pm? Hm, are you trying to manually build tirex? You should really build a package instead using dpkg-buildpackage (at least on Debian and Ubuntu). The required perl dependencies can be found in debian/control back to your

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex Installation

2013-02-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 02/20/2013 05:12 PM, Gero Kriependorf wrote: Tiles without fonts are okay and rendered. But tiles with fonts I get the following error: Are the fonts installed properly at all? Can you render maps with e.g. nik2img? Try python -c from mapnik import FontEngine as e;print

[OSM-dev] Tirex Installation

2013-02-20 Thread Gero Kriependorf
Hello everybody, I have problems getting Tirex up and running. Rendering maps with mapnik and render works fine. I use tirex from svn and mapnik version 2.1.0. I described the problem in detail on the irc channel: http://pastebin.com/Zn2KMZQw Even if you can't help me with the errors perhaps

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex Installation

2013-02-20 Thread Gero Kriependorf
Hello Martin, thank you for your answer. I tried setting both parameters, but nothing changed. I'm sure i set it to the right directory. It's confusing because I don't know if the font error or the python.input error is more worse. Greetings Gero On 20.02.2013 13:39, Martin Tesar wrote: Hi

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex Installation

2013-02-20 Thread Gero Kriependorf
Hello everybody, now I have tirex (SVN latest) and mapnik (v2.0.2 out of ppa from mapnik team) up and running. But rendering does still not work correctly. Tiles without fonts are okay and rendered. But tiles with fonts I get the following error: -- SNIP -- tirex-backend-mapnik[4062]: read:

[OSM-dev] Tirex-backend-manager mapnik problem

2012-11-24 Thread Martin Tesar
Hi, I have mapnik 2.1.0 and tirex installed on Debian Squeeze, boost1.47. Tirex is patched with this: https://gist.github.com/3899892 Mapnik installation works well, but when I'm trying to render simple map (just processed_p.shp layer) with mapnik + tirex-batch, tirex-backend-manager in debug

[OSM-dev] tirex-batch tiles are not used by mod_tile

2012-04-09 Thread Max Wukits
hello, i have a working mod_tile/tirex setup. to save load on the tileserver i pre-created all tiles for europe up to zoomlevel 15. tirex-batch map=terrain bbox=-12,34,48,60 z=5-15 this took about 5days of rendering time, but it seems, that this tiles are not used by mod_tile. here are

[OSM-dev] tirex-batch tiles are not used by mod_tile

2012-03-28 Thread Max Wukits
hello, i have a working mod_tile/tirex setup. to save load on the tileserver i pre-created all tiles for europe up to zoomlevel 15. tirex-batch map=terrain bbox=-12,34,48,60 z=5-15 this took about 5days of rendering time, but it seems, that this tiles are not used by mod_tile. here are

Re: [OSM-dev] tirex-batch tiles are not used by mod_tile

2012-03-28 Thread Stephan Knauss
Max Wukits writes: this took about 5days of rendering time, but it seems, that this tiles are not used by mod_tile. here are some lines from tirex/jobs.log I'm not sure about your log output. Is it possible that your tiles are considered outdated? Can you compare the timestamps with

[OSM-dev] Tirex compilation bug

2012-03-21 Thread Valery N.
Hi, I just try to compile Tirex from sources and face next error: *user@optiplex:~/mapnik2/tirex$ make* *cd backend-mapnik; make* *make[1]: Entering directory `/home/user/mapnik2/tirex/backend-mapnik'* *g++ -g -O2 -Wall -Wextra -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -I

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex compilation bug

2012-03-21 Thread Ramas
https://github.com/mapnik/mapnik/issues/1139 On 21 March 2012 14:31, Valery N. cat_cr...@tut.by wrote: Hi, I just try to compile Tirex from sources and face next error: *user@optiplex:~/mapnik2/tirex$ make* *cd backend-mapnik; make* *make[1]: Entering directory

Re: [OSM-dev] tirex timeout - could not send data to client: Broken pipe

2011-11-29 Thread Petr Voldán
Hi, On 28.11.2011 12:36, Frederik Ramm wrote: Do you have messages like sending HUP to worker 'mapnik' with pid xxx (due to timeout) in your /var/log/daemon.log? If yes, then the mapnik backend has timed out, probably because you forgot to set backend_manager_alive_timeout to a similarly high

[OSM-dev] tirex timeout - could not send data to client: Broken pipe

2011-11-28 Thread Petr Voldán
Hello everyone! We created own OSM server – unfortunately there is problem when we render metatiles in levels 6-10. Roughly one half of metatiles is not rendered due to tirex time-out. The second half and also tiles in level 11-18 are rendered correctly. We tried increase tirex timeout

Re: [OSM-dev] tirex timeout - could not send data to client: Broken pipe

2011-11-28 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 11/28/11 11:15, Petr Voldán wrote: We created own OSM server – unfortunately there is problem when we render metatiles in levels 6-10. Roughly one half of metatiles is not rendered due to tirex time-out. The second half and also tiles in level 11-18 are rendered correctly. We tried

Re: [OSM-dev] tirex-backend-manager doesn't work

2011-11-17 Thread Christian Chelius
Hi, I have now switched from Tirex to mod_tile/Renderd and everything seems be working well. However, the processing of tiles take very long, how would you evaluate this or why is that? Nov 16 23:24:17 osm renderd[8237]: DEBUG: DONE TILE default 6 24-31 16-23 Nov 16 23:24:17 osm

[OSM-dev] tirex-backend-manager doesn't work

2011-11-10 Thread Christian Chelius
Hello everybody, I'm currently trying to install an osm wms server on debian squeeze 64 bit. I already setup postgis, mapnik, mod_tile and apache based on a good howto. Unfortunately, the tirex-backend-manager will not start. The process is not displayed by htop. I assume that for this reason

Re: [OSM-dev] tirex-backend-manager doesn't work

2011-11-10 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 11/10/2011 07:30 PM, Christian Chelius wrote: Maybe, this output is useful: It is indeed: Cannot open master UNIX domain socket: Keine Berechtigung/ tirex-backend-manager[22356]: Can't open pidfile '/var/run/tirex/tirex-backend-manager.pid' for writing: Keine Berechtigung

Re: [OSM-dev] tirex-backend-manager doesn't work

2011-11-10 Thread Christian Chelius
Hi, thanks for answering. Assuming you are using the default config, The configuration /etc/tirex/tirex.conf has not changed. make sure that the following directories exist and are writable for the tirex user: /var/lib/tirex /var/lib/tirex/tiles /var/run/tirex This should have been

Re: [OSM-dev] tirex-backend-manager doesn't work

2011-11-10 Thread Christian Chelius
Hi, Am 10.11.2011 22:37, schrieb Frederik Ramm: Hi, Are you sure that the daemon is really running under the user tirex (chack ps auxw or so)? osm@osm:~$ ps auxw |grep tirex tirex21023 0.4 13.4 712448 545344 ? SNov08 14:41 mapnik: rendering z=8 x=128 y=88 map=osm tirex

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex and python rendering backend

2011-08-14 Thread NopMap
It's good to know that it should be basically possible. However, my knowledge of linux communication mechanisms, pearl and python is not good enough to build something similar from scratch, let alone setting up python in an efficient way. So I'd still be looking for an existing python skeleton

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex and python rendering backend

2011-08-10 Thread Peter Körner
Am 10.08.2011 00:58, schrieb Philipp Borgers: Perhaps you can take a look at the code http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/tirex/lib/Tirex/Backend/Test.pm And don't forget to look at the parent class: http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/tirex/lib/Tirex/Backend.pm and

[OSM-dev] Tirex and python rendering backend

2011-08-09 Thread NopMap
Hi! My server is using tirex and a fairly standard mapnik rendering backend to create map tiles. There are also tiles with elevation contour lines which are pre-rendered offline and uploaded. Not exactly state of the art. I would like to put tirex in control of rendering those contours also.

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex and python rendering backend

2011-08-09 Thread Philipp Borgers
On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 01:56 -0700, NopMap wrote: Hi! My server is using tirex and a fairly standard mapnik rendering backend to create map tiles. There are also tiles with elevation contour lines which are pre-rendered offline and uploaded. Not exactly state of the art. I would like to

[OSM-dev] tirex, output from mapnik-rendering backend different from mapnik for GDAL raster source with opacity

2011-07-05 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
In my stylesheet I use some raster images which I combine with OSM data with the screen and multiply method and with opacity values 1. When rendered with tirex and the mapnik rendering backend they do not show up while the exact same stylesheet-file does behave as expected with the normal mapnik

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex Bucket Configuration

2011-06-16 Thread NopMap
Frederik Ramm wrote: I'm surprised that could happen; even if the master was frozen, then the most that should happen is that every mod_tile attempt to speak to the master would fail, but normal Apache operations (not talking to master) should continue normally. I have no idea how it

[OSM-dev] Tirex Bucket Configuration

2011-06-15 Thread Adam Ratcliffe
We've been using mod_tile/renderd for approx. a year serving an australasian tile set, we will only be serving this one tile set for the foreseeable future. We're now looking at rebuilding our tile servers and I have set up a test installation running Tirex. I'm wondering if anybody is able to

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex Bucket Configuration

2011-06-15 Thread Frederik Ramm
Adam, Adam Ratcliffe wrote: I'm wondering if anybody is able to provide me with any guidelines on how to configure the buckets. Is there a relationship between the maxproc setting and the number of CPUs available on the host for instance? The ideal setting depends on a number of factors. If

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex Bucket Configuration

2011-06-15 Thread Jochen Topf
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 06:09:13PM +1200, Adam Ratcliffe wrote: We've been using mod_tile/renderd for approx. a year serving an australasian tile set, we will only be serving this one tile set for the foreseeable future. We're now looking at rebuilding our tile servers and I have set up a

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex Bucket Configuration

2011-06-15 Thread Adam Ratcliffe
Thanks Jochen and Frederik for these tips - that should be plenty to get me started :) Cheers Adam On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 06:09:13PM +1200, Adam Ratcliffe wrote: We've been using mod_tile/renderd for approx. a year serving

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex Bucket Configuration

2011-06-15 Thread NopMap
Frederik Ramm wrote: I don't normally bother doing tile expiry; I just have a cronjob running that stuffs the oldes 10k tiles into the queue for re-rendering once per hour. This means that my low-priority queue is *always* full, so tirex will *always* keep maxproc CPUs of the lowest

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex Bucket Configuration

2011-06-15 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 06/15/11 18:18, NopMap wrote: On a side note: I have always had the problem that tirex on my server crashes on occasion (about once a month) while adding a few 1000 new tiles for rendering to a non-empty queue. I had that earlier; for some reason tirex-batch and the master process

Re: [OSM-dev] tirex with custom tileschema

2011-04-12 Thread Steven M. Ottens
On 4/11/2011 7:22 PM, Dane Springmeyer wrote: It works now, except that it is in the wrong projection :) I've to look for a different solution :( Let us know what you come up with! Now I'm using MapProxy with the new (experimental) Mapnik backend. And run a seed which refreshes tiles older

[OSM-dev] tirex with custom tileschema

2011-04-11 Thread Steven M. Ottens
Hi all, Does Tirex support different projections and tileschema's? I'm trying to get Tirex running with the dutch tiling schema*). I've got Mapnik and TileCache working together to display my tiles, so the osm.xml is correct. However since TileCache doesn't have any update strategy and I do

Re: [OSM-dev] tirex with custom tileschema

2011-04-11 Thread Peter Körner
Hi Steven, Am 11.04.2011 12:24, schrieb Steven M. Ottens: I'm using a modified tileserver.js on node.js which I've gotten from Peter//Körner to access Tirex. However when I request tiles I get a HTTP 500 Internal server error and the X-Error header says 'render error'. really nice to hear

Re: [OSM-dev] tirex with custom tileschema

2011-04-11 Thread Jochen Topf
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 12:24:38PM +0200, Steven M. Ottens wrote: Does Tirex support different projections and tileschema's? I'm No. The Google projection and tiling schema and the metatile schema used in OSM is very much hard-baked into Tirex. Jochen -- Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org

Re: [OSM-dev] tirex with custom tileschema

2011-04-11 Thread Jochen Topf
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 02:31:19PM +0200, Steven M. Ottens wrote: On 4/11/2011 2:01 PM, Jochen Topf wrote: On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 12:24:38PM +0200, Steven M. Ottens wrote: Does Tirex support different projections and tileschema's? I'm No. The Google projection and tiling schema and the

Re: [OSM-dev] tirex with custom tileschema

2011-04-11 Thread Peter Körner
Am 11.04.2011 14:31, schrieb Steven M. Ottens: On 4/11/2011 2:01 PM, Jochen Topf wrote: On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 12:24:38PM +0200, Steven M. Ottens wrote: Does Tirex support different projections and tileschema's? I'm No. The Google projection and tiling schema and the metatile schema used in

Re: [OSM-dev] tirex with custom tileschema

2011-04-11 Thread Steven M. Ottens
On 4/11/2011 4:50 PM, Peter Körner wrote: Am 11.04.2011 14:31, schrieb Steven M. Ottens: still struggling with this error: tirex-backend-mapnik[2309]: Mapnik config error: Unable to find specified font face '' The font-path configured in the tirex-renderer-config-file

Re: [OSM-dev] tirex with custom tileschema

2011-04-11 Thread Dane Springmeyer
On Apr 11, 2011, at 8:23 AM, Steven M. Ottens wrote: On 4/11/2011 4:50 PM, Peter Körner wrote: Am 11.04.2011 14:31, schrieb Steven M. Ottens: still struggling with this error: tirex-backend-mapnik[2309]: Mapnik config error: Unable to find specified font face '' btw, sorry about ^^, I

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex freezes when adding many tiles with tirex-batch

2011-01-28 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 01/28/11 18:58, NopMap wrote: I am using tirex-batch to add large numbers of tiles (15000) to the rendering queue for pre-rendering of tiles. Usually this works nicely, but occasionally tirex freezes completely. There's no rendering being done and tirex-status shows unchanging numbers.

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex freezes when adding many tiles with tirex-batch

2011-01-28 Thread NopMap
Hi! Frederik Ramm wrote: I had that once and found it was a problem where somehow the master could not message back to tirex-batch that it had completed a tile. I thought I had fixed the problem in r23241. I believe it mostly happened in a scenario where you would input one batch

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex freezes when adding many tiles with tirex-batch

2011-01-28 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, NopMap wrote: I am using r24508, so that change should be included. It is well possible it is the same problem, there are multiple calls to tirex-batch in a script file. Do you think putting a small sleep between them might work around the problem? If the problem is still what it was

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex - Rendering jobs stucked in the queue

2011-01-20 Thread Radek Bartoň
I'm not sure about a better place for this so I put it here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tirex/Logging -- Ing. Radek Bartoň Faculty of Information Technology Department of Computer Graphics and Multimedia Brno University of Technology E-mail: black...@post.cz Web:

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex - Rendering jobs stucked in the queue

2011-01-16 Thread Radek Bartoň
Any other thoughts what may cause it or how to debug where is the problem, please? -- Ing. Radek Bartoň Faculty of Information Technology Department of Computer Graphics and Multimedia Brno University of Technology E-mail: black...@post.cz Web: http://blackhex.no-ip.org Jabber:

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex - Rendering jobs stucked in the queue

2011-01-16 Thread Stephan Knauss
On 16.01.2011 23:15, Radek Bartoň wrote: Any other thoughts what may cause it or how to debug where is the problem, please? You don't have renderd running in parallel to tirex, right? Stephan ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex - Rendering jobs stucked in the queue

2011-01-16 Thread Jon Burgess
On Sun, 2011-01-16 at 23:15 +0100, Radek Bartoň wrote: Any other thoughts what may cause it or how to debug where is the problem, please? Are you sure it isn't a tile which is hitting the timeout? There was a bug some time ago where the Agg code can get stuck in an infinite loop rendering

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex - Rendering jobs stucked in the queue

2011-01-16 Thread Radek Bartoň
You don't have renderd running in parallel to tirex, right? No, there is just mod_tile installed. Are you sure it isn't a tile which is hitting the timeout? There was a bug some time ago where the Agg code can get stuck in an infinite loop rendering some tiles but it only occurs in very

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex - Rendering jobs stucked in the queue

2011-01-16 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 01/16/11 23:57, Radek Bartoň wrote: From what I've seen while debugging it it doesn't matter on the tile requested. It stucks anytime and even there are some success=1 lines in the jobs.log, the metatiles are all empty. I suggest you configure the tirex test backend which should render

[OSM-dev] Tirex - Rendering jobs stucked in the queue

2011-01-14 Thread Radek Bartoň
Hello everyone. I have a working setup of mod_tile+Tirex+Mapnik rendering server on one machine and recently I've tryied to setup another one on much more powerfull machine. I'm alost sure I've done exactly same configuration (except some paths are different) and I've checked if all the

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex - Rendering jobs stucked in the queue

2011-01-14 Thread Jochen Topf
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 11:14:30AM +0100, Radek Bartoň wrote: I have a working setup of mod_tile+Tirex+Mapnik rendering server on one machine and recently I've tryied to setup another one on much more powerfull machine. I'm alost sure I've done exactly same configuration (except some paths

Re: [OSM-dev] tirex problem creating Debian/Ubuntu packages under Ubuntu 10.04

2010-11-24 Thread Peter Körner
Am 21.11.2010 12:36, schrieb Frederik Ramm: Hi, Peter Körner wrote: If you want a brand-new breaking-edge mapnik svn version, check this HowTo (german): http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:HowTo_Mapnik_%26_Tirex This is a very good howto but you shouldn't claim that 0.7.1 is a brand new

Re: [OSM-dev] tirex problem creating Debian/Ubuntu packages under Ubuntu 10.04

2010-11-24 Thread Sven Geggus
Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote: Sorry, you're right. I'd love to see a version of this how to with mapnik 0.8.0 on a debian unstable or testing system. 0.8 has not yet been releasead AFAIK and would require major changes in our styles anyway. Debian testing has 0.7.1 Sven --

Re: [OSM-dev] tirex problem creating Debian/Ubuntu packages under Ubuntu 10.04

2010-11-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Peter Körner wrote: If you want a brand-new breaking-edge mapnik svn version, check this HowTo (german): http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:HowTo_Mapnik_%26_Tirex This is a very good howto but you shouldn't claim that 0.7.1 is a brand new bleeding edge mapnik svn version - that would

Re: [OSM-dev] tirex problem creating Debian/Ubuntu packages under Ubuntu 10.04

2010-11-21 Thread Peter Körner
Am 19.11.2010 09:38, schrieb Sven Geggus: M∡rtin Koppenhoeferdieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: yes, I did this because I don't know how to get a proper package for mapnik, thank you. This should be as simple as apt-get install libmapnik-dev If you want a brand-new breaking-edge mapnik svn

Re: [OSM-dev] tirex problem creating Debian/Ubuntu packages under Ubuntu 10.04

2010-11-19 Thread Sven Geggus
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: yes, I did this because I don't know how to get a proper package for mapnik, thank you. This should be as simple as apt-get install libmapnik-dev Sven -- Der normale Bürger ist nicht an der TU Dresden und schreibt auch nicht mit mutt. (Ulli

[OSM-dev] tirex problem creating Debian/Ubuntu packages under Ubuntu 10.04

2010-11-18 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
I tried to install tirex, but make deb stops at a certain point: ... dh_link dh_strip dh_compress dh_fixperms dh_installdeb dh_shlibdeps dpkg-shlibdeps: Fehler: Keine Abhängigkeitsinformationen für /usr/local/lib/libmapnik.so.0.7 (verwendet von

Re: [OSM-dev] tirex problem creating Debian/Ubuntu packages under Ubuntu 10.04

2010-11-18 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: Do you know what could be the problem? Next time you post a problem to an international list, it will certainly help to do a export LANG=C before you run the command, that would make the error messages appear in English. Your probelm seems to be that you are

Re: [OSM-dev] tirex problem creating Debian/Ubuntu packages under Ubuntu 10.04

2010-11-18 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/11/18 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: thank you for your help. Next time you post a problem to an international list, it will certainly help to do a export LANG=C before you run the command, that would make the error messages appear in English. Thanks, I was aware that German error

[OSM-dev] Tirex

2010-07-06 Thread Jochen Topf
Hi! I just finished my slides for the Tirex lightning talk that I hope to give at SOTM. Not everybody is coming to SOTM, so I thought I might highlight some things here: Tirex is a tile rendering system. So its sits behind a web server and makes sure map tiles are rendered when they are needed.

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex vs Renderd

2010-04-19 Thread Jonathan-David SCHRODER
Hello, I am part of the Geopard project adverstised here some time ago. This project is about indoor mapping + indoor wifi geopositioning on any devices, while relying on the OSM stack. During the dev of a first prototype, I had 2 major issues related to mod_tile/renderd current

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex vs Renderd

2010-04-19 Thread Jochen Topf
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 05:26:18PM +0200, Jonathan-David SCHRODER wrote: So.. If I can sum up my yet unmet requirements regarding mod_tile/renderd, those are : - easy on the fly max zoom level change without any application restart Tirex currently allows any zoom level, if you ask for zoom

[OSM-dev] Tirex vs Renderd

2010-04-17 Thread Kai Krueger
Hello, with the recent appearance of tirex there are now at least two, with the python version of renderd 3, but probably more implementations of a rendering backend. All attempt to roughly do the same, i.e. take requests from a webserver or other program and render them. So the question is

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex vs Renderd

2010-04-17 Thread Frederik Ramm
Kai, Kai Krueger wrote: This is less of a question though regarding using renderd vs tirex but more of a question of where the future lies and thus for which to develop new features. It would be a shame and rather inefficient to put in effort to develop features for something that turns

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex vs Renderd

2010-04-17 Thread Jochen Topf
Hi! On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 10:21:31AM +0100, Kai Krueger wrote: with the recent appearance of tirex there are now at least two, with the python version of renderd 3, but probably more implementations of a rendering backend. All attempt to roughly do the same, i.e. take requests from a

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex vs Renderd

2010-04-17 Thread Kai Krueger
On 04/17/2010 11:29 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Kai, Kai Krueger wrote: This is less of a question though regarding using renderd vs tirex but more of a question of where the future lies and thus for which to develop new features. It would be a shame and rather inefficient to put in effort to

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex vs Renderd

2010-04-17 Thread Jon Burgess
On Sat, 2010-04-17 at 10:21 +0100, Kai Krueger wrote: Hello, with the recent appearance of tirex there are now at least two, with the python version of renderd 3, but probably more implementations of a rendering backend. All attempt to roughly do the same, i.e. take requests from a

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex vs Renderd

2010-04-17 Thread Jon Burgess
On Sat, 2010-04-17 at 12:09 +0100, Kai Krueger wrote: On 04/17/2010 11:29 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Kai, Kai Krueger wrote: This is less of a question though regarding using renderd vs tirex but more of a question of where the future lies and thus for which to develop new features. It

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex vs Renderd

2010-04-17 Thread Jochen Topf
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 12:09:52PM +0100, Kai Krueger wrote: On 04/17/2010 11:29 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Kai, Kai Krueger wrote: This is less of a question though regarding using renderd vs tirex but more of a question of where the future lies and thus for which to develop new

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex vs Renderd

2010-04-17 Thread Richard Weait
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org wrote: There are many ways we could approach this: One would be to implement something in Mapnik so that it can allow variables in style files. Then you would only have one style file for all languages and somehow feed the

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex vs Renderd

2010-04-17 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Richard Weait wrote: On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org wrote: There are many ways we could approach this: One would be to implement something in Mapnik so that it can allow variables in style files. Then you would only have one style file for all languages

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex - a renderd alternative

2010-03-09 Thread Stefan de Konink
Op 09-03-10 14:07, Jochen Topf schreef: As long as you are on the same host and don´t fill up the buffer UDP is reliable. The whole thing works only on the same host anyway, so this should not be a problem. The same host thing is not what my future is. The idea of multiple render services

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex - a renderd alternative

2010-03-09 Thread Stefan de Konink
Op 09-03-10 08:46, Frederik Ramm schreef: But Stefan, you are of course welcome to modify your mod_tile version to talk to Tirex directly. The protocol is really most simple, you just have to send one UDP message and wait for an answer. The wait for an answer part, how can your 'rely' on that

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex - a renderd alternative

2010-03-09 Thread Stefan de Konink
Directly some other issue; since we also have modified Renderd (extensively), can I suggest some features to you too? - Meta tile rendering, but not storing it as meta tile. http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/2653 - Per layer image settings http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/2654

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex - a renderd alternative

2010-03-09 Thread Frederik Ramm
Stefan, Stefan de Konink wrote: The same host thing is not what my future is. The idea of multiple render services that can be balanced by the webserver is. But since it is now also unknown if one could actually connect to a remote tile service, I would bias for TCP. I agree that

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex - a renderd alternative

2010-03-09 Thread Stefan de Konink
Op 09-03-10 17:19, Frederik Ramm schreef: I agree that distributed rendering is something that must be supported. There are several ways to do it; either run a classic load balancer setup with some intelligence so that it requests odd tiles from one server and even tiles from another etc., or

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex - a renderd alternative

2010-03-09 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Stefan de Konink wrote: I agree that distributed rendering is something that must be supported. There are several ways to do it; either run a classic load balancer setup with some intelligence so that it requests odd tiles from one server and even tiles from another etc., or build a mesh

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex - a renderd alternative

2010-03-09 Thread Colin Marquardt
2010/3/8 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org:    a few days ago I committed a first working version of Tirex to our svn (under applications/utils). Tirex is basically an alternative for renderd, it does the same things, just differently. Nice. It would be cool if it supported pluggable elaborate

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex - a renderd alternative

2010-03-09 Thread Stefan de Konink
Op 09-03-10 21:28, Frederik Ramm schreef: I agree that distributed rendering is something that must be supported. There are several ways to do it; either run a classic load balancer setup with some intelligence so that it requests odd tiles from one server and even tiles from another etc., or

[OSM-dev] Tirex - a renderd alternative

2010-03-08 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, a few days ago I committed a first working version of Tirex to our svn (under applications/utils). Tirex is basically an alternative for renderd, it does the same things, just differently. We (Geofabrik) had to roll out a tile server for one of our clients (a company named Enaikoon

Re: [OSM-dev] Tirex - a renderd alternative

2010-03-08 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: What are the plans for the mod_tile replacement? Hopefully something to decouple it from Apache, maybe using FastCGI? I spoke to JonB during Tirex development and that was one of the ideas he had as well. Either FastCGI, or at least put all the relevant