Re: [OSM-dev] osm schema/dtd - planet and request timestamp

2008-09-10 Thread 80n
OSMXAPI currently includes an attribute named osmxapi:planetDate in the tag to show the age of the data. It's namespaced because it is not an official attribute of the OSM schema. There is definitely a need for an attribute that describes the age of the data and it ought to be part of the OSM sc

Re: [OSM-dev] osm schema/dtd - planet and request timestamp

2008-09-09 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > SO why does the planet export and/or the osc change files have > timestamps in their filename? Its a snapshot timestamp and thats the one > i am interested in. It says that the state i am dumping, and thats what > the map api call does for a bbox, is current up to date X. The osc files are

Re: [OSM-dev] osm schema/dtd - planet and request timestamp

2008-09-09 Thread Tom Hughes
Florian Lohoff wrote: > On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 12:37:14PM +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: >> Florian Lohoff wrote: >> >>> No need for object versioning here - I want to enable everyone to look >>> at when the data was generated and from which database state. >> Well for planet that's simple - it isn't ge

Re: [OSM-dev] osm schema/dtd - planet and request timestamp

2008-09-09 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 05:10:49PM +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: > >SO why does the planet export and/or the osc change files have > >timestamps in their filename? Its a snapshot timestamp and thats the one > >i am interested in. It says that the state i am dumping, and thats what > >the map api call do

Re: [OSM-dev] osm schema/dtd - planet and request timestamp

2008-09-09 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 01:52:24PM +0200, Stefan de Konink wrote: > Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] osm schema/dtd - planet and request timestamp > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Florian Lohoff schreef: > > Do you have a url? One can find tons of

Re: [OSM-dev] osm schema/dtd - planet and request timestamp

2008-09-09 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 12:37:14PM +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: > Florian Lohoff wrote: > > >No need for object versioning here - I want to enable everyone to look > >at when the data was generated and from which database state. > > Well for planet that's simple - it isn't generated from any particul

Re: [OSM-dev] osm schema/dtd - planet and request timestamp

2008-09-09 Thread spaetz
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 12:37:14PM +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: > Well for planet that's simple - it isn't generated from any particular > state but rather contains some combination of the states over a period > of a number of hours as it is created. > > So there is no single timestamp we could repo

Re: [OSM-dev] osm schema/dtd - planet and request timestamp

2008-09-09 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Florian Lohoff schreef: > Do you have a url? One can find tons of information in the wiki > concerning the xsd but all of that seems - hmm - outdated - invalid or > simply the stuff i am referring to: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/XSD

Re: [OSM-dev] osm schema/dtd - planet and request timestamp

2008-09-09 Thread Tom Hughes
Florian Lohoff wrote: > No need for object versioning here - I want to enable everyone to look > at when the data was generated and from which database state. Well for planet that's simple - it isn't generated from any particular state but rather contains some combination of the states over a pe

Re: [OSM-dev] osm schema/dtd - planet and request timestamp

2008-09-09 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 11:15:54AM +0100, Shaun McDonald wrote: > Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] osm schema/dtd - planet and request timestamp > > Florian Lohoff wrote: > >Hi, > >with the increasing number of database mirrors satisfying requests for > >the various types of appl

Re: [OSM-dev] osm schema/dtd - planet and request timestamp

2008-09-09 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 12:31:43PM +0200, Stefan de Konink wrote: > Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] osm schema/dtd - planet and request timestamp > > On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > > I was looking at http://kinkrsoftware.nl/contrib/osm/osm-0.5.xsd which > > does no

Re: [OSM-dev] osm schema/dtd - planet and request timestamp

2008-09-09 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Shaun McDonald schreef: > The next API release 0.6 will include a version field for each node, way > and relation. This will do exactly what you are looking for. This is nonsense, and is not what he is looking for. It will only massively increase the

Re: [OSM-dev] osm schema/dtd - planet and request timestamp

2008-09-09 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Florian Lohoff wrote: > I was looking at http://kinkrsoftware.nl/contrib/osm/osm-0.5.xsd which > does not mention something like this. > > The main api could simply add the current time as the timestamps. Check the wiki XSD Schema for the 'latest' version of it :) Stefan _

Re: [OSM-dev] osm schema/dtd - planet and request timestamp

2008-09-09 Thread Shaun McDonald
Florian Lohoff wrote: > Hi, > with the increasing number of database mirrors satisfying requests for > the various types of applications it would be a good idea to extend the > OSM apis DTD/Schema with some timestamps makeing it possible to check > for the currentness of the data. I'd propose somet

[OSM-dev] osm schema/dtd - planet and request timestamp

2008-09-09 Thread Florian Lohoff
Hi, with the increasing number of database mirrors satisfying requests for the various types of applications it would be a good idea to extend the OSM apis DTD/Schema with some timestamps makeing it possible to check for the currentness of the data. I'd propose something like requestTimestamp and