Re: [OSM-dev] tagtransform for OSM - An effort make tagging and using OSM data easier; bridging different worlds together

2019-12-16 Thread Sören Reinecke via dev
Hey Olivier,hey Mailing-List, I cleaned up my repository and text form of the specification with examples can now be found at https://github.com/ValorNaram/transformation-table-osmtags/blob/master/spec/README.md . The JSON form of the specification can be found in the same tree at

Re: [OSM-dev] tagtransform for OSM - An effort make tagging and using OSM data easier; bridging different worlds together

2019-12-15 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/12/2019 17:47, Sören Reinecke via dev wrote: Nothing is wrong with GitHub issues but GitHub has limitations when it comes to instant team talks. Slack allows to open subthreads when a point from someone needs to be negotiated. And that allows more deep communication and organisation.

Re: [OSM-dev] tagtransform for OSM - An effort make tagging and using OSM data easier; bridging different worlds together

2019-12-15 Thread Sören Reinecke via dev
I think it's time to think about the specification. My idea is to create a format which we can use to import rules from existing projects to, collect and process them all united and then export then back to the various formats used by several projects. The specification therefore is the "bridge"

Re: [OSM-dev] tagtransform for OSM - An effort make tagging and using OSM data easier; bridging different worlds together

2019-12-12 Thread Sören Reinecke via dev
Nothing is wrong with GitHub issues but GitHub has limitations when it comes to instant team talks. Slack allows to open subthreads when a point from someone needs to be negotiated. And that allows more deep communication and organisation. Original Message Subject: Re: [OSM-dev]

Re: [OSM-dev] tagtransform for OSM - An effort make tagging and using OSM data easier; bridging different worlds together

2019-12-12 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
iscussion and work. Ask me and > I will invite you. > > Cheers > > Sören Reinecke alias Valor Naram > > > Original Message ---- > Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] tagtransform for OSM - An effort make tagging and > using OSM data easier; bridging different worlds

Re: [OSM-dev] tagtransform for OSM - An effort make tagging and using OSM data easier; bridging different worlds together

2019-12-12 Thread Sören Reinecke via dev
Hi all,I've now set up a Slack Workplace for further discussion and work. Ask me and I will invite you.CheersSören Reinecke alias Valor Naram Original Message Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] tagtransform for OSM - An effort make tagging and using OSM data easier; bridging different worlds

Re: [OSM-dev] tagtransform for OSM - An effort make tagging and using OSM data easier; bridging different worlds together

2019-12-11 Thread Sören Reinecke via dev
alias Valor Naram PS: This content is of public interest that's why this e-mail belongs to this list. -Original Message- From: Gerd Petermann To: dev@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] tagtransform for OSM - A effort make tagging and using OSM data easier; bridging different worlds

Re: [OSM-dev] tagtransform for OSM - A effort make tagging and using OSM data easier; bridging different worlds together

2019-12-11 Thread Gerd Petermann
Hi all, What could be the user interface for such a collection of rules? I can think of a preprocessor like osmfilter or some kind of wiki tool which could add hints to wiki pages. Or maybe a rule generator which could create rules for a target program like mkgmap? Gerd -- Sent from:

Re: [OSM-dev] tagtransform for OSM - An effort make tagging and using OSM data easier; bridging different worlds together

2019-12-11 Thread Andy Townsend
On 06/12/2019 14:08, Jean Marie Falisse wrote: 1.  Is all this written in java? Taking the examples from https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SomeoneElse/diary/391484 : * osmosis is written in Java * osmium is I believe C++ * osm2pgsql's lua interface (obviously) calls things written in

Re: [OSM-dev] tagtransform for OSM - An effort make tagging and using OSM data easier; bridging different worlds together

2019-12-08 Thread Sören Reinecke via dev
> Probably we need a "Metadata Working Group" to collect this type of informations,> and store the information  in the "central metadata repository"(?) .. ( with a good license ) Yes, you're right. We need a group of people working on a specification and on tools to make it easier to validate and

Re: [OSM-dev] tagtransform for OSM - An effort make tagging and using OSM data easier; bridging different worlds together

2019-12-06 Thread Imre Samu
ransform for OSM` to create an own transformation > specification. > c) Writing converters which convert from a format to the format of > `tagtransform for OSM` and writing converters to convert from the format of > `tagtransform for OSM` to another format programs can work

Re: [OSM-dev] tagtransform for OSM - An effort make tagging and using OSM data easier; bridging different worlds together

2019-12-06 Thread Sören Reinecke via dev
Hello Jean Marie,> 1. Is all this written in java?The specification itself is written in JSON. The programs which parse the spec and use it can be written in the language of your desire. I personally will write one for python3 and one for _javascript_.> Is there anything going on in Haskell? I’d

Re: [OSM-dev] tagtransform for OSM - An effort make tagging and using OSM data easier; bridging different worlds together

2019-12-06 Thread Jean Marie Falisse
pactibility among > different formats while ensuring that my spec can be used on its own. > > What do you prefer or do you have another options to add? > > Cheers > > Sören Reinecke alias Valor Naram > > > Original Message ---- > Subject: Re: [OSM-dev

Re: [OSM-dev] tagtransform for OSM - An effort make tagging and using OSM data easier; bridging different worlds together

2019-12-06 Thread Sören Reinecke via dev
There are some available options I see:a) Not working on this further.b) Using `tagtransform for OSM` to create an own transformation specification.c) Writing converters which convert from a format to the format of `tagtransform for OSM` and writing converters to convert from the format of

Re: [OSM-dev] tagtransform for OSM - A effort make tagging and using OSM data easier; bridging different worlds together

2019-12-05 Thread Imre Samu
> I currently write a specification for tranforming tags in OpenStreetMap to make life of data customers easier. imho: we can import some good ideas from https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmosis/TagTransform schema .. *"The tag transform Osmosis plugin allows arbitrary tag transforms to be

Re: [OSM-dev] tagtransform for OSM - A effort make tagging and using OSM data easier; bridging different worlds together

2019-12-05 Thread Sören Reinecke via dev
> what issue was it that you hit that led you to conclude that (initially) tag homogenisation for specific tags was a goal worth pursuing, followed by the initiative to create a "master list of "tag X means the same as Y"? The situation of that I needed to support both `diaper` and

Re: [OSM-dev] tagtransform for OSM - A effort make tagging and using OSM data easier; bridging different worlds together

2019-12-05 Thread Andy Townsend
On 05/12/2019 19:24, Sören Reinecke wrote: > Are you planning to make something that can be integrated directly into that (or mkgmap, or osmand etc.**).? No, this is not my aim. That's a shame.  It looks like you're trying to solve the part of the problem that isn't really much of  a

Re: [OSM-dev] tagtransform for OSM - A effort make tagging and using OSM data easier; bridging different worlds together

2019-12-05 Thread Sören Reinecke via dev
> At your github repository it looks like you're planning to store an explicit list of "tag X means the same as tag Y".  Is this going to be stored project by project so that you can say "project A thinks that tag X means the same as tag Y but project B does not"?Yes but I didn't resolve the

Re: [OSM-dev] tagtransform for OSM - A effort make tagging and using OSM data easier; bridging different worlds together

2019-12-05 Thread Andy Townsend
On 05/12/2019 14:50, Sören Reinecke via dev wrote: I currently write a specification for tranforming tags in OpenStreetMap to make life of data customers easier. Firstly, thanks for trying to make the lives of people trying to do things with OSM data easier! Obviously there are two bits to

[OSM-dev] tagtransform for OSM - A effort make tagging and using OSM data easier; bridging different worlds together

2019-12-05 Thread Sören Reinecke via dev
Hey all, I currently write a specification for tranforming tags in OpenStreetMap to make life of data customers easier. Different tagging schemes have emerged since the existence of OpenStreetMap, same are existing in parallel and a newer one deprecated an old one. Data customers without knowing