Re: [jira] Commented: (OWB-286) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/validation/Validator

2010-02-18 Thread Joseph Bergmark
; > > > +1 and please let's get rid of our WebbeansLogger, since this layer > > actually hides the _real_ source of the logging :/ > > > > LieGrue, > > strub > > > > --- Paul J. Reder schrieb am Do, 18.2.2010: > > > > > Von: Paul J. R

Re: [jira] Commented: (OWB-286) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/validation/Validator

2010-02-18 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
eansLogger, since this layer >>> actually hides the _real_ source of the logging :/ >>> >>> LieGrue, >>> strub >>> >>> --- Paul J. Reder schrieb am Do, 18.2.2010: >>> >>> > Von: Paul J. Reder >>> > Betreff:

Re: [jira] Commented: (OWB-286) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/validation/Validator

2010-02-18 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
; LieGrue, >> strub >> >> --- Paul J. Reder schrieb am Do, 18.2.2010: >> >> > Von: Paul J. Reder >> > Betreff: Re: [jira] Commented: (OWB-286) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: >>  javax/validation/Validator >> > An: dev@openwebbeans.apache.org

Re: [jira] Commented: (OWB-286) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/validation/Validator

2010-02-18 Thread Gurkan Erdogdu
From: Mark Struberg To: dev@openwebbeans.apache.org Sent: Thu, February 18, 2010 8:05:04 PM Subject: Re: [jira] Commented: (OWB-286) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/validation/Validator abstraction is a good point, but it currently always reports the wrong location. Thus in the log, you don&#

Re: [jira] Commented: (OWB-286) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/validation/Validator

2010-02-18 Thread Gurkan Erdogdu
pache.org Sent: Thu, February 18, 2010 8:21:22 PM Subject: Re: [jira] Commented: (OWB-286) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/validation/Validator The question is whether we need to wrap a wrapper of a wrapper of ... ;) The java.util.logging.Logger has a few downsides, but along the line it

Re: [jira] Commented: (OWB-286) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/validation/Validator

2010-02-18 Thread Gurkan Erdogdu
, but I agree that this is not a 'bug' and we should change this to 'feature', ok? It would make another really cool OWB feature! LieGrue, strub --- Gurkan Erdogdu schrieb am Do, 18.2.2010: > Von: Gurkan Erdogdu > Betreff: Re: [jira] Commented: (OWB-286) java.lang.

Re: [jira] Commented: (OWB-286) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/validation/Validator

2010-02-18 Thread Gurkan Erdogdu
:58:23 PM Subject: Re: [jira] Commented: (OWB-286) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/validation/Validator +1, but I'm not sure I see the need to remove WebbeansLogger. That provides an abstraction layer on top of whatever logging technology you want to use, which may make switching lo

Re: [jira] Commented: (OWB-286) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/validation/Validator

2010-02-18 Thread Mark Struberg
pened (and if you have multiple occurrences of the same log text) LieGrue, strub --- Joseph Bergmark schrieb am Do, 18.2.2010: > Von: Joseph Bergmark > Betreff: Re: [jira] Commented: (OWB-286) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: > javax/validation/Validator > An: dev@openwebbeans.a

Re: [jira] Commented: (OWB-286) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/validation/Validator

2010-02-18 Thread Joseph Bergmark
gt; strub > > --- Paul J. Reder schrieb am Do, 18.2.2010: > > > Von: Paul J. Reder > > Betreff: Re: [jira] Commented: (OWB-286) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: > javax/validation/Validator > > An: dev@openwebbeans.apache.org > > Datum: Donnerstag, 18. Febru

Re: [jira] Commented: (OWB-286) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/validation/Validator

2010-02-18 Thread Mark Struberg
and we should change this to 'feature', ok? > >> It would make another really cool OWB feature! > > > > +1 > > > > not only a cool feature. Actually playing nice with > customers (the > > guys that are supposed to use OWB ;-) ) > > > >> >

Re: [jira] Commented: (OWB-286) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/validation/Validator

2010-02-18 Thread Paul J. Reder
really cool OWB feature! +1 not only a cool feature. Actually playing nice with customers (the guys that are supposed to use OWB ;-) ) LieGrue, strub --- Gurkan Erdogdu schrieb am Do, 18.2.2010: Von: Gurkan Erdogdu Betreff: Re: [jira] Commented: (OWB-286) java.lang.NoC

Re: [jira] Commented: (OWB-286) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/validation/Validator

2010-02-18 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
rub > > > --- Gurkan Erdogdu schrieb am Do, 18.2.2010: > >> Von: Gurkan Erdogdu >> Betreff: Re: [jira] Commented: (OWB-286) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:   >> javax/validation/Validator >> An: dev@openwebbeans.apache.org >> Datum: Donnerstag, 18. Februar

Re: [jira] Commented: (OWB-286) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/validation/Validator

2010-02-18 Thread Mark Struberg
ake another really cool OWB feature! LieGrue, strub --- Gurkan Erdogdu schrieb am Do, 18.2.2010: > Von: Gurkan Erdogdu > Betreff: Re: [jira] Commented: (OWB-286) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: > javax/validation/Validator > An: dev@openwebbeans.apache.org > Datum:

Re: [jira] Commented: (OWB-286) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/validation/Validator

2010-02-18 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
exactly On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Joseph Bergmark wrote: > I agree that the 3rd and 4th bullets in 3.6 make this a hard requirement. > > It seems the tradeoff to me is: > 1) Additional complexity of another plugin based approach to avoid this > scenario. > or > 2) Handling of the CNF excep

Re: [jira] Commented: (OWB-286) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/validation/Validator

2010-02-18 Thread Joseph Bergmark
I agree that the 3rd and 4th bullets in 3.6 make this a hard requirement. It seems the tradeoff to me is: 1) Additional complexity of another plugin based approach to avoid this scenario. or 2) Handling of the CNF exception inside OWB with a warning message vs. The user having to bundle an API j

Re: [jira] Commented: (OWB-286) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/validation/Validator

2010-02-18 Thread Gurkan Erdogdu
>>>it says true :-) Optional because runtime environment provides this :) IF there is no validation-api it throws ClassNFException as you have got. It means that, if you provide scope as optional and your maven project use it, its optional dependency does not transitively passed to using project.

Re: [jira] Commented: (OWB-286) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/validation/Validator

2010-02-18 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu wrote: Pretty harsh :-) > Not intended :) I know; it wasn't you that wrote the spec :-) > he 299 spec _require_ validator API > Yes. Look at specification 3.6 Additional Beans > does weld (candi) also have this *hard* dependency on the

Re: [jira] Commented: (OWB-286) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/validation/Validator

2010-02-18 Thread Gurkan Erdogdu
>>>Pretty harsh :-) Not intended :) >>>he 299 spec _require_ validator API Yes. Look at specification 3.6 Additional Beans >>>does weld (candi) also have this *hard* dependency on the >>>javax.validation API ? For weld -- yes http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/weld/core/trunk/impl/src/main/java/org/j

Re: [jira] Commented: (OWB-286) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/validation/Validator

2010-02-18 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Pretty harsh :-) IMO JSF2 is doing better here. It just checks if the dependency in question (yeah, javax.validation) is present if not => don't bother... But... I have to say that JSF 2.0 was released _before_ the JAvaEE6 was available. I understand your motivation for closing the ticket, but I

Re: [jira] Commented: (OWB-286) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/validation/Validator

2010-02-18 Thread Gurkan Erdogdu
I have remarked several times about issues related with Java EE 6 dependencies. I emphasize the fact that JSR-299 is a Java EE 6 specification not for Jetty, Tomcat or any other containers that is not Java EE 6. But we are doing the best to run it possible on those containers. But we must not crea

[jira] Commented: (OWB-286) java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/validation/Validator

2010-02-18 Thread Mark Struberg (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OWB-286?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12835162#action_12835162 ] Mark Struberg commented on OWB-286: --- too bad, this slipped into webbeans-core. We have to m