Re: [Fwd: mod_perl 2.0 user guide suggestions]

2005-12-08 Thread Philippe M. Chiasson
Stas Bekman wrote: > Another fix from Terrence. That site is indeed down. > > Original Message > Subject: mod_perl 2.0 user guide suggestions > Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 13:53:10 -0800 > From: Terrence Brannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Fwd: mod_perl 2.0 user guide suggestions]

2005-12-07 Thread Stas Bekman
Another fix from Terrence. That site is indeed down. Original Message Subject: mod_perl 2.0 user guide suggestions Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 13:53:10 -0800 From: Terrence Brannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, you make reference to perldoc.com i

Re: [PATCH] updating CGI.pm for new mod_perl 2.0 API

2005-04-20 Thread Lincoln Stein
Done. Lincoln On Thursday 14 April 2005 09:49 am, Geoffrey Young wrote: > Lincoln Stein wrote: > > No, I'm ready to release the new version whenever it's convenient for > > you. > > ok, I just released RC5 to CPAN, so whenever you have time to release > 3.08 would be great. > > thanks for your he

Re: [PATCH] updating CGI.pm for new mod_perl 2.0 API

2005-04-14 Thread Geoffrey Young
Lincoln Stein wrote: > No, I'm ready to release the new version whenever it's convenient for > you. ok, I just released RC5 to CPAN, so whenever you have time to release 3.08 would be great. thanks for your help with this :) --Geoff ---

samples of mod_perl 2.0-RC5 compliant modules

2005-04-14 Thread Geoffrey Young
hi all :) I've updated all of my mod_perl 2.0 CPAN modules so that they work with the latest mod_perl 2.0 release (RC5 aka 1.999_22) and Apache-Test 1.22. here is a list if you want to look at them: Apache-AuthenHook-2.00_04 Apache-Clean-2.00_6 Apache-IncludeHook-2.00_05 A

Re: [RELEASE CANDIDATE] mod_perl 2.0-RC5

2005-04-12 Thread Randy Kobes
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005, Steve Hay wrote: > Geoffrey Young wrote: > > >the mod_perl development team is pleased to announce that we have a new > >candidate for mod_perl 2.0, ready and waiting for testers. > > > No good for me on Win32 :( > > Using Apache 2.0.5

Re: [RELEASE CANDIDATE] mod_perl 2.0-RC5

2005-04-12 Thread Stas Bekman
Steve Hay wrote: Geoffrey Young wrote: the mod_perl development team is pleased to announce that we have a new candidate for mod_perl 2.0, ready and waiting for testers. No good for me on Win32 :( Using Apache 2.0.53, bleadperl (@22511), I have the testsuite crashing the Apache.exe server every

Re: [RELEASE CANDIDATE] mod_perl 2.0-RC5

2005-04-12 Thread Steve Hay
Geoffrey Young wrote: >the mod_perl development team is pleased to announce that we have a new >candidate for mod_perl 2.0, ready and waiting for testers. > No good for me on Win32 :( Using Apache 2.0.53, bleadperl (@22511), I have the testsuite crashing the Apache.exe server every tim

Re: [RELEASE CANDIDATE] mod_perl 2.0-RC5

2005-04-11 Thread Philippe M. Chiasson
Geoffrey Young wrote: the mod_perl development team is pleased to announce that we have a new candidate for mod_perl 2.0, ready and waiting for testers. [...] Looks like things are borked on OS X ;-( Darwin (OS X): Static: bus error on startup (will investigate) Dynamic: worker & pre

Re: [RELEASE CANDIDATE] mod_perl 2.0-RC5

2005-04-11 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
Geoffrey Young wrote: the mod_perl development team is pleased to announce that we have a new candidate for mod_perl 2.0, ready and waiting for testers. FBSD 6-current bleed perl w/out ithreads http2/prefork apr is not threaded modules/proxy.t fails for me error log and test output attached

Re: [RELEASE CANDIDATE] mod_perl 2.0-RC5

2005-04-11 Thread Stas Bekman
Stas Bekman wrote: Adam Prime x443 wrote: Assuming i was upgrading a machine running RC4 to RC5, what is the easiest way to remove RC4 so RC5 will install? make uninstall in the old build directory says it's depreciated (looking at the makefile), but offers no automated alternative? Will it do the

Re: [RELEASE CANDIDATE] mod_perl 2.0-RC5

2005-04-11 Thread Stas Bekman
Adam Prime x443 wrote: Assuming i was upgrading a machine running RC4 to RC5, what is the easiest way to remove RC4 so RC5 will install? make uninstall in the old build directory says it's depreciated (looking at the makefile), but offers no automated alternative? Will it do the job or do I really

[RELEASE CANDIDATE] mod_perl 2.0-RC5

2005-04-11 Thread Geoffrey Young
the mod_perl development team is pleased to announce that we have a new candidate for mod_perl 2.0, ready and waiting for testers. this release, mod_perl 1.999_22, is a _very_ significant release as it contains major API changes and is completely incompatible with any prior release of mod_perl

Re: [PATCH] updating CGI.pm for new mod_perl 2.0 API

2005-04-07 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
Your patches went into my CVS version, and I think you can say that for sure the changes will be in CGI.pm version 3.07. FBSD -current/i386 bleedperl w/ ithreads turnks of httpd/apr/apr-util/apr-iconv threads applied CGI.pm patches for 3.08 this is worker + ithreads only modules/proxy.t fails

Re: [PATCH] updating CGI.pm for new mod_perl 2.0 API

2005-04-07 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
Philip M. Gollucci wrote: Your patches went into my CVS version, and I think you can say that for sure the changes will be in CGI.pm version 3.07. FBSD -current/i386 bleedperl w/ ithreads turnks of httpd/apr/apr-util/apr-iconv threads applied CGI.pm patches for 3.08 this is prefork + ithreads o

Re: [PATCH] updating CGI.pm for new mod_perl 2.0 API

2005-04-07 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
Your patches went into my CVS version, and I think you can say that for sure the changes will be in CGI.pm version 3.07. FBSD -current/i386 bleedperl w/out ithreads turnks of httpd/apr/apr-util/apr-iconv no threads applied CGI.pm patches for 3.08 minus the apache_content_length header test as po

Re: [PATCH] updating CGI.pm for new mod_perl 2.0 API

2005-04-07 Thread Stas Bekman
Geoffrey Young wrote: Lincoln Stein wrote: Hi Geoffrey, Your patches went into my CVS version, and I think you can say that for sure the changes will be in CGI.pm version 3.07. Lincoln, you must have meant 3.08. As 3.07 is already out there ;) -- _

Re: [PATCH] updating CGI.pm for new mod_perl 2.0 API

2005-04-07 Thread Geoffrey Young
Lincoln Stein wrote: > Hi Geoffrey, > > Your patches went into my CVS version, and I think you can say that > for sure the changes will be in CGI.pm version 3.07. great! > I'd like to > coordinate our releases so that it will encourage both mod_perl 2.0 > users

[PATCH] updating CGI.pm for new mod_perl 2.0 API

2005-04-07 Thread Geoffrey Young
hi Lincoln. the attached patch updates the CGI.pm distribution to work with the new mod_perl 2.0 API. because of the massive API changes that have occured recently, it is a forward only update - older versions of mod_perl 2.0 (from the start of the project up to the current CPAN release) are not

Re: mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-22 Thread Geoffrey Young
Joe Schaefer wrote: > Geoffrey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [...] > > >>I really don't see how it can be any other way - I absolutely, >>positively do not want to deal with questions about how prior beta >>versions mix with later beta versions and, eventually, the official >>2.0. > >

Re: mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-22 Thread Joe Schaefer
Geoffrey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > I really don't see how it can be any other way - I absolutely, > positively do not want to deal with questions about how prior beta > versions mix with later beta versions and, eventually, the official > 2.0. So then, the proposed branch is a re

Re: mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-21 Thread Randy Kobes
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, Geoffrey Young wrote: > To take a look at the codebase you can checkout the following branch > from subversion: > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/perl/modperl/branches/apache2-rename-unstable > > and test and install it as usual. For those Win32 users wishing to give this a

Re: mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-21 Thread Geoffrey Young
> > make dist has a problem, so I can't roll a tarball at the moment. try this http://cvs.apache.org/~geoff/mod_perl-unstable.tar.gz --Geoff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAI

Re: mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-21 Thread Joe Schaefer
Geoffrey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I would expect that, barring any new developments, > we should be able to roll a candidate by monday > at the latest. -1, let's not rush things. We're not all on the same page right now, even as developers, so there needs to be some/lots of formal v

Re: mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-21 Thread Geoffrey Young
branch. > > > I have to say I'm yet to take a detailed look at this branch, but then > my svn kung fu is fairly weak. $ svn checkout "http://..."; mod_perl-2.0-rename > > Is there a one liner for producing a snap-shot tarball so I can take a > look throu

Re: mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-21 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Geoffrey" == Geoffrey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Geoffrey> - first, assume lazy consensus if nobody hollers with something new that Geoffrey> we haven't already heard and discussed ad nauseum Mark me as a lazy consenter. :-) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Service

Re: mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-21 Thread Geoffrey Young
Adam Kennedy wrote: >> no, the mp2 MakeMaker tools serve many purposes, and installing into >> Apache2 >> is just one of them. another is, for instance, letting XS modules know >> where the mod_perl header files and typemaps are, or (IIRC) adding things >> that, say, win32 needs to know about. >

Re: mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-21 Thread Adam Kennedy
no, the mp2 MakeMaker tools serve many purposes, and installing into Apache2 is just one of them. another is, for instance, letting XS modules know where the mod_perl header files and typemaps are, or (IIRC) adding things that, say, win32 needs to know about. so no, they stay. but now pure perl m

Re: mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-21 Thread Geoffrey Young
Adam Kennedy wrote: >> yes, it would suck, but I don't see how it would cause new problems. >> Apache2:: is a namespace like any other, and it previously did not >> exist, so >> I would expect it to install like any other namespace but not stomp on >> prior >> existing stuff, which were the big c

Re: mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-21 Thread Adam Kennedy
yes, it would suck, but I don't see how it would cause new problems. Apache2:: is a namespace like any other, and it previously did not exist, so I would expect it to install like any other namespace but not stomp on prior existing stuff, which were the big concerns. Indeed. And the other half of t

Re: mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-21 Thread Geoffrey Young
Joe Schaefer wrote: > Geoffrey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [...] > > >> - you cannot make, test, or install the unstable branch over any >>other version of mod_perl-1.99 > > > Blech. IMO that's a rather serious problem with this branch. > Any thoughts on how it could be fixed

Re: mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-21 Thread Adam Kennedy
Anybody know if this branch actually solves our current CPAN issues with trunk? It'd royally suck if we just displaced the known CPAN/installer problems with trunk with a whole new set of CPAN/installer problems associated with this branch. I have to say I'm yet to take a detailed look at this

Re: mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-21 Thread Geoffrey Young
Joe Schaefer wrote: > Geoffrey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [...] > > >> - mod_perl.pm is now mod_perl2.pm >> >> - Apache2.pm no longer exists > > > Procedural question: how should we vote on > this stuff? At this point, I think we should > treat this proposal as just that, a p

Re: mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-21 Thread Joe Schaefer
Geoffrey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > > - mod_perl.pm is now mod_perl2.pm > > - Apache2.pm no longer exists Procedural question: how should we vote on this stuff? At this point, I think we should treat this proposal as just that, a proposal. Any ideas about how, and when, we

Re: mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-21 Thread Joe Schaefer
Geoffrey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > - you cannot make, test, or install the unstable branch over any > other version of mod_perl-1.99 Blech. IMO that's a rather serious problem with this branch. Any thoughts on how it could be fixed? [...] > If you have issues or concerns

Re: mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-21 Thread Joe Schaefer
Tom Schindl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What's going to happen to Apache::Request will it also follow this > direction and renamed Apache2::Request? TBD- I think that issue depends on what folks say about the current renaming proposal for mp2. In the past the apreq-dev has always honored the

Re: mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-21 Thread Tom Schindl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, my svn-client refuses to checkout from the repository telling me that the URL-Schema is unknown. Are there any tar.gz's to download or even better does anybody know what that means(does my distribution forgot to add this protocol). I'm using Mandrak

Re: mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-21 Thread Tom Schindl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 What's going to happen to Apache::Request will it also follow this direction and renamed Apache2::Request? Tom Joe Schaefer wrote: | Geoffrey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | [...] | | |>The process has reached the point where discussion ought to m

Re: mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-20 Thread Joe Schaefer
Geoffrey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > The process has reached the point where discussion ought to move back > into the general community - the majority in the PMC have a proposed Apologies- late correction: it's more accurate to say "a co

mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-20 Thread Geoffrey Young
As you all well know, the mod_perl 2.0 release process encountered a substantial obstacle in late December concerning our choice of namespaces for the 2.0 API. In January[1] the mod_perl PMC promised to examine the concerns that had been raised on all sides, the needs of our userbase, the

Re: [Fwd: Some questions about mod_perl 2.0]

2004-12-29 Thread Perrin Harkins
Stas Bekman said: > The thing is: 99.9% of users need to have only one modperl generation, > therefore I think the conflicting marking is the preferrable approach. But > I could be wrong. I'm not sure they actually mark them as conflicting, but they do seem to be coping with this so far, since Red

Re: [Fwd: Some questions about mod_perl 2.0]

2004-12-29 Thread Joe Schaefer
Stas Bekman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > =item * Distributors > > Distributors should mark the different generations of mod_perl as > conflicting, so only one version can be installed using the binary > package. Users requiring more than one installation should do a manual > install. +1

Re: [Fwd: Some questions about mod_perl 2.0]

2004-12-29 Thread Stas Bekman
Adam Kennedy wrote: =item * Distributors Distributors should mark the different generations of mod_perl as conflicting, so only one version can be installed using the binary package. Users requiring more than one installation should do a manual install. >>> So I presume this would apply to all of A

Re: [Fwd: Some questions about mod_perl 2.0]

2004-12-29 Thread Adam Kennedy
Stas Bekman wrote: Mind to post this to the list? It's an important issue, that was just an idea I wrote last night. Adam Kennedy wrote: (off-list) So I presume this would apply to all of Apache-related CPAN modules as well? Wouldn't this mean that people like debian are going to have libapache

Re: [Fwd: Some questions about mod_perl 2.0]

2004-12-29 Thread Stas Bekman
Perrin Harkins wrote: Adam Kennedy said: While I'm thinking about it, has anyone talked to Red Hat or the Debian people to see how the separate distribution of identically named module will work within all of the distro's various packaging systems? Doesn't seem like a problem to me since a) they j

Re: [Fwd: Some questions about mod_perl 2.0]

2004-12-29 Thread Adam Kennedy
Perrin Harkins wrote: Adam Kennedy said: While I'm thinking about it, has anyone talked to Red Hat or the Debian people to see how the separate distribution of identically named module will work within all of the distro's various packaging systems? Doesn't seem like a problem to me since a) they

Re: [Fwd: Some questions about mod_perl 2.0]

2004-12-29 Thread Stas Bekman
Adam Kennedy wrote: If a module has XS code and doesn't provide a CLONE function, most likely it is not thread-safe (you can grep for CLONE). Of course those that provide the CLONE function aren't necessarily completely thread-safe. e.g. I've added CLONE only for the top level class in GTop, th

Re: [Fwd: Some questions about mod_perl 2.0]

2004-12-29 Thread Perrin Harkins
Adam Kennedy said: > While I'm thinking about it, has anyone talked to Red Hat or the Debian > people to see how the separate distribution of identically named module > will work within all of the distro's various packaging systems? Doesn't seem like a problem to me since a) they just ship the mod

Re: [Fwd: Some questions about mod_perl 2.0]

2004-12-29 Thread Adam Kennedy
If a module has XS code and doesn't provide a CLONE function, most likely it is not thread-safe (you can grep for CLONE). Of course those that provide the CLONE function aren't necessarily completely thread-safe. e.g. I've added CLONE only for the top level class in GTop, the rest of classes in

Re: [Fwd: Some questions about mod_perl 2.0]

2004-12-29 Thread Stas Bekman
Perrin Harkins wrote: Adam Kennedy said: I'm wondering how you plan to make the modifications to the various modules that might be effected by this new concept of "two different modules (APIs) with the same name" Adam, this is under heavy discussion right now and is not really resolved. There is

Re: [Fwd: Some questions about mod_perl 2.0]

2004-12-29 Thread Perrin Harkins
thing. I'm not aware of any automatic scanning utility for this. > There are 14 million lines of perl in CPAN, are we going to have to > rewrite all of them to make them thread-safe before we can use any of > them with mod_perl 2.0? If you want to run them with threads, then yes, th

[Fwd: Some questions about mod_perl 2.0]

2004-12-29 Thread Adam Kennedy
them to make them thread-safe before we can use any of them with mod_perl 2.0? We have enough problems maintaining some of them already... I would imagine that many modules can't be made thread-safe without fundamentally changing their APIs as well... do you see a risk of API cascade here,

Re: mod_perl 2.0 make test failures

2004-05-05 Thread Stas Bekman
Stas Bekman wrote: gSOAP acct wrote: Hi Stas, I think I got the cvs version of modperl you mentioned ... cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/cvspublic co modperl-2.0 ... Is that right? Right. > modperl_constants.c:1576: error: `AP_MPMQ_RUNNING' > undeclared (first use in this function) I

Re: mod_perl 2.0 make test failures

2004-04-26 Thread Stas Bekman
Stas Bekman wrote: gSOAP acct wrote: Hi Stas, I think I got the cvs version of modperl you mentioned ... cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/cvspublic co modperl-2.0 ... Is that right? Right. > modperl_constants.c:1576: error: `AP_MPMQ_RUNNING' > undeclared (first use in this function) I

Re: mod_perl 2.0 make test failures

2004-04-25 Thread Stas Bekman
gSOAP acct wrote: Hi Stas, I just decided to upgade things ... [...] ... everthing seem to compile and install correctly. Good for you :) Bad for others, as now we don't know what was the problem and the we will have to go through the same thing again with the next person encountering that exact

Re: mod_perl 2.0 make test failures

2004-04-25 Thread gSOAP acct
ignore my last email. Geez I am stupid sometimes. --- gSOAP acct <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Stas, > > I just decided to upgade things ... > > so I did this ... > > cvs -d > :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/cvspublic > login > cvs -d > :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/cvspublic > co modper

Re: mod_perl 2.0 make test failures

2004-04-25 Thread gSOAP acct
Hi Stas, I just decided to upgade things ... so I did this ... cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/cvspublic login cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/cvspublic co modperl-2.0 #To get the cutting edge Apache 2.0 and APR 0.9 projects: cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/cvspublic co -

Re: mod_perl 2.0 make test failures

2004-04-25 Thread Stas Bekman
gSOAP acct wrote: Hi Stas, Well that got me a lot closer but make test still failed. Should I upgrade my Apache and try again with modperl 2.0? Not really. It should work fine with 2.0.48. t/apache/subprocess.t 255 65280?? ?? % ?? t/apr/perlio.t 255 65280?? ?? %

Re: mod_perl 2.0 make test failures

2004-04-25 Thread gSOAP acct
Hi Stas, Well that got me a lot closer but make test still failed. Should I upgrade my Apache and try again with modperl 2.0? $ make test ... t/preconnection/noteok t/protocol/echo.ok

Re: mod_perl 2.0 make test failures

2004-04-25 Thread Stas Bekman
gSOAP acct wrote: Hi Stas, I think I got the cvs version of modperl you mentioned ... cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/cvspublic co modperl-2.0 ... Is that right? Right. > modperl_constants.c:1576: error: `AP_MPMQ_RUNNING' > undeclared (first use in this function) I know what the problem i

Re: mod_perl 2.0 make test failures

2004-04-25 Thread gSOAP acct
Hi Stas, I think I got the cvs version of modperl you mentioned ... cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/cvspublic co modperl-2.0 ... Is that right? Next I do this ... perl Makefile.PL MP_APXS=/usr/local/apache2/bin/apxs ... and now when I do my make I get this ... cc -I/home/Plankton/cvs

Re: mod_perl 2.0 make test failures

2004-04-25 Thread Stas Bekman
[remember to reply back to the list! Thanks] gSOAP acct wrote: I forgot about having mod_perl and perl built with the same compiler. I'll rebuild perl and if that doesn't work I'll get the current modperl cvs and try again as you suggest. I think you *need* to use modperl cvs. If I were you I'd d

Re: mod_perl 2.0 make test failures

2004-04-25 Thread Stas Bekman
gSOAP acct wrote: -8<-- Start Bug Report 8<-- 1. Problem Description: I get a lot of test failures when I run make test. but you showed us the failure of the first one. I guess a lot more fail, right? Please get the current modperl cvs and try again. Most l

mod_perl 2.0 make test failures

2004-04-25 Thread gSOAP acct
-8<-- Start Bug Report 8<-- 1. Problem Description: I get a lot of test failures when I run make test. Here's the output from the make test ... linux:/home/Plankton/mod_perl/mod_perl-1.99_13 # rm t/logs/error_log linux:/home/Plankton/mod_p

Re: [CODE FREEZE] mod_perl-2.0

2003-11-07 Thread Stas Bekman
Geoffrey Young wrote: hi all we're about to enter into another release cycle for mod_perl 2.0, so I'd like to ask for a code freeze until the release candidate has been rolled, then allow only fixes to reported RC problems until 1.99_11 is official. 1.99_11-RC1 should be on it

[CODE FREEZE] mod_perl-2.0

2003-11-07 Thread Geoffrey Young
hi all we're about to enter into another release cycle for mod_perl 2.0, so I'd like to ask for a code freeze until the release candidate has been rolled, then allow only fixes to reported RC problems until 1.99_11 is official. 1.99_11-RC1 should be on it's way sh

Re: public mod_perl 2.0 C API

2003-01-31 Thread Geoffrey Young
Stas Bekman wrote: As I was exposing mpxs_Apache_request as I needed it in Apache::Peek, I was thinking what is the public C mod_perl API. Is that everything that is defined in mod_?perl.*\.h and modperl_xs.*\.h files? What about the XS extensions, if a 3rd party app wants to use a C function

public mod_perl 2.0 C API

2003-01-30 Thread Stas Bekman
As I was exposing mpxs_Apache_request as I needed it in Apache::Peek, I was thinking what is the public C mod_perl API. Is that everything that is defined in mod_?perl.*\.h and modperl_xs.*\.h files? What about the XS extensions, if a 3rd party app wants to use a C function which is not in the c

Apache::Clean mod_perl 2.0 port

2002-10-14 Thread Geoffrey Young
hi all... I had a few moments so I've started to port Apache::Clean over to mod_perl 2.0. it's far from complete, and I haven't examined all the issues with proper caching headers yet, but you can find the work in progress here: http://www.modperlcookbook.org/~geoff/modul

Re: Status of mod_perl 2.0

2002-02-27 Thread Stas Bekman
Jeff Stuart wrote: > Question? What is the status of mod_perl 2.0? Also, is it working > with/playing with Apache 2.0 at all? Tell me what's the status of apache 2.0 and I'll tell you the status of mod_perl 2.0 :) But seriously mod_perl 2.0 will be ready about the time

Status of mod_perl 2.0

2002-02-27 Thread Jeff Stuart
Question? What is the status of mod_perl 2.0? Also, is it working with/playing with Apache 2.0 at all? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: mod_perl 2.0 for ISPs

2002-02-26 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen
On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Stas Bekman wrote: > > but yes, registry scripts would need some sort of protection as well. > > I cannot see where registry scripts differ from handlers, from the > access to internals point of view. Once you run under mod_perl it > doesn't matter what you do. You've to ha

Re: mod_perl 2.0 (current CVS) on Win32

2002-01-06 Thread Randy Kobes
On Sun, 6 Jan 2002, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: > Randy Kobes wrote: > > Great ... If you're trying next 'nmake test', you may find > > Haven't tried 'nmake test' yet, but: Apache.exe crashes on shutdown > when mod_perl is loaded. Yes, that happened before with an earlier modperl-1.3?; it was

Re: mod_perl 2.0 (current CVS) on Win32

2002-01-06 Thread Doug MacEachern
On Sun, 6 Jan 2002, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: > I can't build a debug version of mod_perl by setting MP_DEBUG=1 when I > run Makefile.pl, the compiler barks out with unknown compiler flags. So, > no stacktrace. i have perl on win32 built with debugging, so modperl inherits the debug flags

Re: mod_perl 2.0 (current CVS) on Win32

2002-01-06 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Randy Kobes wrote: > Great ... If you're trying next 'nmake test', you may find Haven't tried 'nmake test' yet, but: Apache.exe crashes on shutdown when mod_perl is loaded. Reminds me: What changes do I have to make to httpd.conf, besides the obvious LoadModule perl_module modules/l

Re: mod_perl 2.0 (current CVS) on Win32

2002-01-05 Thread Randy Kobes
On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: > Thanks for your help, it builds fine now. Great ... If you're trying next 'nmake test', you may find some problems with not being able to find certain modules in @INC. This is because, due to case-insensitive filenames on Win32, perl copying a 'L

Re: mod_perl 2.0 (current CVS) on Win32

2002-01-05 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Randy Kobes wrote: > Ah ... That's probably the problem - modperl is looking for > certain header files in the MP_AP_PREFIX parent directory, > and if they're not found, the error you got would result. Thanks for your help, it builds fine now. -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergma

Re: mod_perl 2.0 (current CVS) on Win32

2002-01-05 Thread Randy Kobes
On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: > Randy Kobes wrote: > > No, it shouldn't be - the install to \server\apache should also > > copy the needed include and lib files. And there's no spaces in > > the names, so it's not croaking on that ... If it doesn't make > > any difference to you,

Re: mod_perl 2.0 for ISPs

2002-01-05 Thread brian moseley
On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Stas Bekman wrote: > I thought his question was abouthow to make INC private > to various vh's. The answer is that it's done. > > Have I misinterpreter the question? Or are we talking > about different things? ah, i must have misread the last message. of course, there is sti

Re: mod_perl 2.0 for ISPs - design docs

2002-01-05 Thread Stas Bekman
Jay Lawrence wrote: > Stas, > > Thank you for the link. I was not aware of this document. The PerlOptions > directive looks like an excellent design decision! Thank Doug for designing/implementing, not me for sending a link :) -- _

Re: mod_perl 2.0 for ISPs - design docs

2002-01-05 Thread Jay Lawrence
y Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:25 PM Subject: Re: mod_perl 2.0 for ISPs > Jay Lawrence wrote: > > > Another point that was mentioned by someone in my local Mongers group > > was that of different INC paths for differ

Re: mod_perl 2.0 for ISPs

2002-01-05 Thread Stas Bekman
brian moseley wrote: > On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Stas Bekman wrote: > > >>Guys, I suggest that you read the design docs before you >>continue. The INC issue has been addressed already. >>Please read: >>http://apache.org/~dougm/modperl_2.0.html >>http://apache.org/~dougm/modperl_design.html >> > > th

Re: mod_perl 2.0 (current CVS) on Win32

2002-01-04 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Sebastian Bergmann wrote: > C:\home\apache\modperl-2.0>perl makefile.pl MP_USE_DSO=1 > MP_GENERATE_XS=1 MP_AP_PREFIX=c:\server\apache Just noticed that MP_AP_PREFIX should point to the binary directly on *NIX, so I tried perl makefile.pl MP_USE_DSO=1 MP_GENERATE_XS=1 MP_AP_PREFIX=c:

Re: mod_perl 2.0 (current CVS) on Win32

2002-01-04 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Randy Kobes wrote: > No, it shouldn't be - the install to \server\apache should also > copy the needed include and lib files. And there's no spaces in > the names, so it's not croaking on that ... If it doesn't make > any difference to you, what happens if you install to C:\Apache2? > That works f

Re: mod_perl 2.0 for ISPs

2002-01-04 Thread brian moseley
On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Stas Bekman wrote: > Guys, I suggest that you read the design docs before you > continue. The INC issue has been addressed already. > Please read: > http://apache.org/~dougm/modperl_2.0.html > http://apache.org/~dougm/modperl_design.html that may not be exactly what he's wish

Re: mod_perl 2.0 for ISPs

2002-01-04 Thread Stas Bekman
Jay Lawrence wrote: > Another point that was mentioned by someone in my local Mongers group > was that of different INC paths for different sets of users. I confess not > to > have given this much thought but upon initial thinking it seems that if > different users want to have isolated local mod

Re: mod_perl 2.0 (current CVS) on Win32

2002-01-04 Thread Randy Kobes
On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: > Randy Kobes wrote: > > Is this a binary install of Apache2, or one that you compiled > > yourself from the httpd-2.0 cvs sources? > > I always build from the sources myself. The sources, however are > located in c:\home\apache\httpd-2.0, not in

Re: mod_perl 2.0 for ISPs

2002-01-04 Thread Jay Lawrence
Another point that was mentioned by someone in my local Mongers group was that of different INC paths for different sets of users. I confess not to have given this much thought but upon initial thinking it seems that if different users want to have isolated local modules (differing versions of the

Re: mod_perl 2.0 (current CVS) on Win32

2002-01-04 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Randy Kobes wrote: > Is this a binary install of Apache2, or one that you compiled > yourself from the httpd-2.0 cvs sources? I always build from the sources myself. The sources, however are located in c:\home\apache\httpd-2.0, not in c:\server\apache\. Is this a problem? -- Sebastian B

Re: mod_perl 2.0 (current CVS) on Win32

2002-01-04 Thread Randy Kobes
On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: > Randy Kobes wrote: > > Is C:\server\apache the directory to which Apache2 was installed? > > Yes, and C:\Server\Apache\bin\Apache.exe is the executable. Is this a binary install of Apache2, or one that you compiled yourself from the httpd-2.0 cvs

Re: mod_perl 2.0 (current CVS) on Win32

2002-01-04 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Randy Kobes wrote: > Is C:\server\apache the directory to which Apache2 was installed? Yes, and C:\Server\Apache\bin\Apache.exe is the executable. -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://wishl

Re: mod_perl 2.0 (current CVS) on Win32

2002-01-04 Thread Randy Kobes
On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: > What am I doing wrong, now? > > C:\home\apache\modperl-2.0>perl makefile.pl MP_USE_DSO=1 MP_GENERATE_XS=1 > MP_AP_PREFIX=c:\server\apache > Reading Makefile.PL args from @ARGV >MP_USE_DSO = 1 >MP_GENERATE_XS = 1 >MP_AP_PREFIX = c:\serv

mod_perl 2.0 on Windows

2002-01-04 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
What am I doing wrong, now? C:\home\apache\modperl-2.0>perl makefile.pl MP_USE_DSO=1 MP_GENERATE_XS=1 MP_AP_PREFIX=c:\server\apache Reading Makefile.PL args from @ARGV MP_USE_DSO = 1 MP_GENERATE_XS = 1 MP_AP_PREFIX = c:\server\apache readline() on closed filehandle Apache::Build::$fh at

mod_perl 2.0 (current CVS) on Win32

2002-01-04 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
What am I doing wrong, now? C:\home\apache\modperl-2.0>perl makefile.pl MP_USE_DSO=1 MP_GENERATE_XS=1 MP_AP_PREFIX=c:\server\apache Reading Makefile.PL args from @ARGV MP_USE_DSO = 1 MP_GENERATE_XS = 1 MP_AP_PREFIX = c:\server\apache readline() on closed filehandle Apache::Build::$fh a

Re: mod_perl 2.0 for ISPs

2002-01-04 Thread Geoffrey Young
Stas Bekman wrote: > > >>I think the first thing to lookat is how PHP builds the jail. > >> > > > > two different issues, no? one is about normal cgi/registry scripts > > and the other about accessing areas of the server through the API. > > > > but yes, registry scripts would need some sort of

Re: mod_perl 2.0 for ISPs

2002-01-04 Thread Stas Bekman
>>I think the first thing to lookat is how PHP builds the jail. >> > > two different issues, no? one is about normal cgi/registry scripts > and the other about accessing areas of the server through the API. > > but yes, registry scripts would need some sort of protection as well. I cannot see

Re: mod_perl 2.0 for ISPs

2002-01-04 Thread Geoffrey Young
Stas Bekman wrote: > > Geoffrey Young wrote: > > > hi all... > > > > I was wondering if any thought was given to designing mod_perl 2.0 > > with ISPs in mind. I know this issue has cropped up on modperl@ but > > I've been thinking about

Re: mod_perl 2.0 for ISPs

2002-01-04 Thread Stas Bekman
Geoffrey Young wrote: > hi all... > > I was wondering if any thought was given to designing mod_perl 2.0 > with ISPs in mind. I know this issue has cropped up on modperl@ but > I've been thinking about it lots lately and have an idea (well, some > ramblings, anyway)...

Re: mod_perl 2.0 for ISPs

2002-01-04 Thread raptor
Yeah I also think that 'cause we lack such a support beat mod-Perl so much !! In the time it is much more powerfull than PHP or so, lacking support for mass-hosting doesn't give a chance for mod_perl to make it most widly used.. my 5c [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

mod_perl 2.0 for ISPs

2002-01-04 Thread Geoffrey Young
hi all... I was wondering if any thought was given to designing mod_perl 2.0 with ISPs in mind. I know this issue has cropped up on modperl@ but I've been thinking about it lots lately and have an idea (well, some ramblings, anyway)... there are lots of problems with allowing users to

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