Re: POI PMC roll call
Hi devs, it doesn't look like that I'll commit anything in the near or mid-term future - there have been some changes in my private/professional life. I'm not using Java at all at my $dayjob and overboarding tickets / todo lists s*ck out all motivation of sitting there several hours in the evening on fixing bugzilla entries - let alone that sometimes it takes ages for one issue to be resolved. Currently I'd just interested in fixing stuff in the encryption and WMF areas where I've put quite some effort in. About two years ago, I questioned a few other project PMCs on how their projects community develops and how long recent become-committers stay with the project - and the response was (and still is): it's in a dire state. I thought a few motivating emails into the mailing list could change something, but soon after I've questioned myself, what I'm doing here. [1] I hope things change eventually ... Best wishes, Andi [1] https://youtu.be/JXeJANDKwDc - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@poi.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@poi.apache.org
Re: POI PMC roll call
Hi, You can take a look at https://poi.apache.org/devel/index.html for documentation, please let us know if you get stuck on the way. Regards... Dominik On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 11:48 AM Kamal Chandrashekar wrote: > sry team pls assist me in setting up the code I will try my best. > > On Sun, Mar 5, 2023, 4:06 AM a...@dua3.com wrote: > > > Hi, > > I don’t find much time to contribute. I look into the dev list from time > > to time and occasionally respond or comment on issues, but it has been > some > > time since I last contributed any code. Reason is that my current dayjob > > does not involve POI anymore and in the remaining time I am preparing to > > start a small company which has now become my “nightjob”. So I might > > occasionally make a small contribution, and there might be a moment when > I > > will find more time for POI again, but I have no idea when that will be. > > Regards, > > Axel > > > > > > >
Re: POI PMC roll call
sry team pls assist me in setting up the code I will try my best. On Sun, Mar 5, 2023, 4:06 AM a...@dua3.com wrote: > Hi, > I don’t find much time to contribute. I look into the dev list from time > to time and occasionally respond or comment on issues, but it has been some > time since I last contributed any code. Reason is that my current dayjob > does not involve POI anymore and in the remaining time I am preparing to > start a small company which has now become my “nightjob”. So I might > occasionally make a small contribution, and there might be a moment when I > will find more time for POI again, but I have no idea when that will be. > Regards, > Axel > > >
Re: AW: POI PMC roll call
Thanks everyone. It looks like we're pretty well set for the time being. Hopefully, we'll see some activity from contributors outside the existing POI team and will be able to invite them to join as POI committers, in time. On Saturday 4 March 2023 at 23:36:45 GMT+1, a...@dua3.com wrote: Hi, I don’t find much time to contribute. I look into the dev list from time to time and occasionally respond or comment on issues, but it has been some time since I last contributed any code. Reason is that my current dayjob does not involve POI anymore and in the remaining time I am preparing to start a small company which has now become my “nightjob”. So I might occasionally make a small contribution, and there might be a moment when I will find more time for POI again, but I have no idea when that will be. Regards, Axel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@poi.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@poi.apache.org
AW: POI PMC roll call
Hi, I don’t find much time to contribute. I look into the dev list from time to time and occasionally respond or comment on issues, but it has been some time since I last contributed any code. Reason is that my current dayjob does not involve POI anymore and in the remaining time I am preparing to start a small company which has now become my “nightjob”. So I might occasionally make a small contribution, and there might be a moment when I will find more time for POI again, but I have no idea when that will be. Regards, Axel
Re: POI PMC roll call
I'm still following along and look at the odd bug-report from time to time. I can keep the PMC-stuff like board reports going as it is fairly low-effort anyway. As my $dayjob is unrelated since a long time, I will mostly spend time on topics which spur my personal interest, e.g. mass-regression testing, fuzzing, sometimes tricky bug-fixes, ... Dominik. On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 9:52 PM Tim Allison wrote: > Similar to Nick and others. I have time to pay attention, but not as > much as I'd like to contribute. Always hopeful... So, y, I'm still > interested. Thank you for calling roll and all of your work on POI > and beyond! > > On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 12:06 PM Nick Burch wrote: > > > > On Fri, 3 Mar 2023, PJ Fanning wrote: > > > Apologies if anyone thinks I'm going in the wrong direction here. The > > > TLDR is: I am asking if PMC members could respond with whether they are > > > still interested in working on POI or if they are no longer in a > > > position to help. > > > > Still here, still watching, but I don't currently have any ringfenced > time > > for open source work in my $DAYJOB so it's quite variable how much time > > I've got free to give at any point. > > > > Happy to help mentor some new people towards committership, if there's > any > > candidates, as that (long term) gives more benefit for the time invested > > :) > > > > Nick > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@poi.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@poi.apache.org > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@poi.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@poi.apache.org > >
Re: POI PMC roll call
Similar to Nick and others. I have time to pay attention, but not as much as I'd like to contribute. Always hopeful... So, y, I'm still interested. Thank you for calling roll and all of your work on POI and beyond! On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 12:06 PM Nick Burch wrote: > > On Fri, 3 Mar 2023, PJ Fanning wrote: > > Apologies if anyone thinks I'm going in the wrong direction here. The > > TLDR is: I am asking if PMC members could respond with whether they are > > still interested in working on POI or if they are no longer in a > > position to help. > > Still here, still watching, but I don't currently have any ringfenced time > for open source work in my $DAYJOB so it's quite variable how much time > I've got free to give at any point. > > Happy to help mentor some new people towards committership, if there's any > candidates, as that (long term) gives more benefit for the time invested > :) > > Nick > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@poi.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@poi.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@poi.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@poi.apache.org
Re: POI PMC roll call
Thanks Dave for your response. The CI builds (on Jenkins) and links to them are provided at https://poi.apache.org/devel/nightly.html It might be a good idea to revisit some of those pages to provide some more detail. The Github CI build is of limited use because the builds only kick off for commits. PRs are not tested because Github does not trust any users and we have no users who are set up with the organizational privileges to click on the PR to allow the CI run to take place. Unfortunately, a very high proportion of patches and PRs fail to build with compile or test problems and having Github pre-test the PRs would be a time saver. When it comes to finding new committers, the problem is that we don't get too many people doing more than one patch. On Friday 3 March 2023 at 18:36:52 GMT+1, Dave Fisher wrote: Hi PJ, I still monitor the project, and would, as over a decade ago be a third +1, if needed. Thank you for your leadership. More inline. > On Mar 3, 2023, at 6:26 AM, PJ Fanning wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Apologies if anyone thinks I'm going in the wrong direction here. The TLDR > is: I am asking if PMC members could respond with whether they are still > interested in working on POI or if they are no longer in a position to help. > > There appears to only be a couple of POI PMC members that are active at this > stage (on mailing lists, dealing with bugzilla, Github commits, etc.). As I said, I am on standby as I have been for years. Given the following choices which would be most important. 1. We gave fully moved to Git from SVN? If so I can help with the messaging. 2. We will always need to keep bugzilla, but it could help to switch to GitHub issues for new bugs. 3. What is the status of CI. Is it on ASF Jenkins? 4. What is the status of gradle and the build on GitHub? > > I'm not seeking anything drastic like considering retiring POI (aka moving to > the Attic). It is suggested in ASF guidelines that mature projects > occasionally do a Roll Call [1]. There doesn't appear to be many people that > we could look to invite to become committers or PMC members. > > I'm interested in continuing but would like to cut back my involvement. I am > involved in a few other ASF projects and want to concentrate on those. > > Even if we do have a few active PMC members, we might want to consider guide > lines on what sort of code changes to make and how often we intend to do > releases. > > The code base is very large and I have to admit some of patches that I merge > that are submitted by outside contributors - that I don't know that part of > the code base well and am reliant on the test coverage to pick up issues. And > we have a lot of code that does not have great test coverage. Most of the > patches come with minimal new tests - there are definitely exceptions - some > of the patches are of very high quality. Developers who provide quality patches are candidates to be committers. > > It's also hard to keep up with new features in Microsoft file formats (ie new > XSDs) and the Java Runtime is being overhauled in ways that may eventually > break some POI code. We should discuss these concerns slowly on this mailing list. Like POI was heavily dependent on XMLBeans there are other projects that are dependent on POI like Tika. This dependence is what led to Yegor’s creation of OOXML lite almost 15 years ago. Best, Dave > > Regards, > PJ > > > [1] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#move-to-attic > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@poi.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@poi.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@poi.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@poi.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@poi.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@poi.apache.org
Re: POI PMC roll call
yes, fully aware of many of these points. i'll continue to contribute when/where able. TIA Stanton Fisque principal technologist latticeware.com portland, oregon > On Mar 3, 2023, at 10:53 AM, PJ Fanning wrote: > > Thanks Hamza and Stanton for expressing an interest in contributing to POI. > > For newbies, the best place to start is > https://poi.apache.org/devel/index.html > > The documentation is basic but the tools we use are well documented on the > web. Subversion, Git, Gradle. > > If you any specific questions, the POI 'user' mailing list might be the best > place to ask as the 'dev' list has a lot of automated emails on it that can > obscure emails from real people with questions. > > There is a big backlog of issues in Bugzilla [1]. We get some issues raised > that have good descriptions but we get lots that are not very well described > or that are raised due to misunderstandings as to what the POI lib does. > > We don't have a road map. If you have any ideas about features that are > missing, raise Bugzilla issues where they can be discussed. > > I'm afraid that I don't think POI is the sort of code base that you want to > dive into unless you have a vested interest in getting a particular problem > solved. > > > > [1] > https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?bug_status=__open___id=203815=changeddate%20DESC%2Cpriority%2Cbug_severity=POI_format=specific > > > > On Friday 3 March 2023 at 17:18:48 GMT+1, stanton fisque > wrote: > > > > > > i am not a PMC member, BUT as one of the multitude of contributors interested > in the liveliness of POI, i am curious what is involved with keeping this > project alive and moving (even if it is at a modest rate)? > > > Stanton Fisque > principal technologist > latticeware.com > portland, oregon > >> On Mar 3, 2023, at 08:14 AM, Hamza Gobir >> wrote: >> >> I'm interested on working on tickets but I'm having issues setting up my >> Dev environment. >> >> Are there any resources you can point me to? >> >> >> On Fri, 3 Mar 2023, 14:26 PJ Fanning, wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> Apologies if anyone thinks I'm going in the wrong direction here. The TLDR >>> is: I am asking if PMC members could respond with whether they are still >>> interested in working on POI or if they are no longer in a position to help. >>> >>> There appears to only be a couple of POI PMC members that are active at >>> this stage (on mailing lists, dealing with bugzilla, Github commits, etc.). >>> >>> I'm not seeking anything drastic like considering retiring POI (aka moving >>> to the Attic). It is suggested in ASF guidelines that mature projects >>> occasionally do a Roll Call [1]. There doesn't appear to be many people >>> that we could look to invite to become committers or PMC members. >>> >>> I'm interested in continuing but would like to cut back my involvement. I >>> am involved in a few other ASF projects and want to concentrate on those. >>> >>> Even if we do have a few active PMC members, we might want to consider >>> guide lines on what sort of code changes to make and how often we intend to >>> do releases. >>> >>> The code base is very large and I have to admit some of patches that I >>> merge that are submitted by outside contributors - that I don't know that >>> part of the code base well and am reliant on the test coverage to pick up >>> issues. And we have a lot of code that does not have great test coverage. >>> Most of the patches come with minimal new tests - there are definitely >>> exceptions - some of the patches are of very high quality. >>> >>> It's also hard to keep up with new features in Microsoft file formats (ie >>> new XSDs) and the Java Runtime is being overhauled in ways that may >>> eventually break some POI code. >>> >>> Regards, >>> PJ >>> >>> >>> [1] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#move-to-attic >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@poi.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@poi.apache.org > >>> >>> > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@poi.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@poi.apache.org > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@poi.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@poi.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@poi.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@poi.apache.org
Re: POI PMC roll call
I can't devote much time at the moment, but I do plan to come back, although not sure how soon it will be. I'm also monitoring the mailing list and use the latest releases at my day job. Regards, Yegor пт, 3 мар. 2023 г., 18:26 PJ Fanning : > Hi everyone, > > Apologies if anyone thinks I'm going in the wrong direction here. The TLDR > is: I am asking if PMC members could respond with whether they are still > interested in working on POI or if they are no longer in a position to help. > > There appears to only be a couple of POI PMC members that are active at > this stage (on mailing lists, dealing with bugzilla, Github commits, etc.). > > I'm not seeking anything drastic like considering retiring POI (aka moving > to the Attic). It is suggested in ASF guidelines that mature projects > occasionally do a Roll Call [1]. There doesn't appear to be many people > that we could look to invite to become committers or PMC members. > > I'm interested in continuing but would like to cut back my involvement. I > am involved in a few other ASF projects and want to concentrate on those. > > Even if we do have a few active PMC members, we might want to consider > guide lines on what sort of code changes to make and how often we intend to > do releases. > > The code base is very large and I have to admit some of patches that I > merge that are submitted by outside contributors - that I don't know that > part of the code base well and am reliant on the test coverage to pick up > issues. And we have a lot of code that does not have great test coverage. > Most of the patches come with minimal new tests - there are definitely > exceptions - some of the patches are of very high quality. > > It's also hard to keep up with new features in Microsoft file formats (ie > new XSDs) and the Java Runtime is being overhauled in ways that may > eventually break some POI code. > > Regards, > PJ > > > [1] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#move-to-attic > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@poi.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@poi.apache.org > >
Re: POI PMC roll call
Thanks Hamza and Stanton for expressing an interest in contributing to POI. For newbies, the best place to start is https://poi.apache.org/devel/index.html The documentation is basic but the tools we use are well documented on the web. Subversion, Git, Gradle. If you any specific questions, the POI 'user' mailing list might be the best place to ask as the 'dev' list has a lot of automated emails on it that can obscure emails from real people with questions. There is a big backlog of issues in Bugzilla [1]. We get some issues raised that have good descriptions but we get lots that are not very well described or that are raised due to misunderstandings as to what the POI lib does. We don't have a road map. If you have any ideas about features that are missing, raise Bugzilla issues where they can be discussed. I'm afraid that I don't think POI is the sort of code base that you want to dive into unless you have a vested interest in getting a particular problem solved. [1] https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?bug_status=__open___id=203815=changeddate%20DESC%2Cpriority%2Cbug_severity=POI_format=specific On Friday 3 March 2023 at 17:18:48 GMT+1, stanton fisque wrote: i am not a PMC member, BUT as one of the multitude of contributors interested in the liveliness of POI, i am curious what is involved with keeping this project alive and moving (even if it is at a modest rate)? Stanton Fisque principal technologist latticeware.com portland, oregon > On Mar 3, 2023, at 08:14 AM, Hamza Gobir > wrote: > > I'm interested on working on tickets but I'm having issues setting up my > Dev environment. > > Are there any resources you can point me to? > > > On Fri, 3 Mar 2023, 14:26 PJ Fanning, wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> Apologies if anyone thinks I'm going in the wrong direction here. The TLDR >> is: I am asking if PMC members could respond with whether they are still >> interested in working on POI or if they are no longer in a position to help. >> >> There appears to only be a couple of POI PMC members that are active at >> this stage (on mailing lists, dealing with bugzilla, Github commits, etc.). >> >> I'm not seeking anything drastic like considering retiring POI (aka moving >> to the Attic). It is suggested in ASF guidelines that mature projects >> occasionally do a Roll Call [1]. There doesn't appear to be many people >> that we could look to invite to become committers or PMC members. >> >> I'm interested in continuing but would like to cut back my involvement. I >> am involved in a few other ASF projects and want to concentrate on those. >> >> Even if we do have a few active PMC members, we might want to consider >> guide lines on what sort of code changes to make and how often we intend to >> do releases. >> >> The code base is very large and I have to admit some of patches that I >> merge that are submitted by outside contributors - that I don't know that >> part of the code base well and am reliant on the test coverage to pick up >> issues. And we have a lot of code that does not have great test coverage. >> Most of the patches come with minimal new tests - there are definitely >> exceptions - some of the patches are of very high quality. >> >> It's also hard to keep up with new features in Microsoft file formats (ie >> new XSDs) and the Java Runtime is being overhauled in ways that may >> eventually break some POI code. >> >> Regards, >> PJ >> >> >> [1] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#move-to-attic >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@poi.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@poi.apache.org >> >> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@poi.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@poi.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@poi.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@poi.apache.org
Re: POI PMC roll call
Hi PJ, I still monitor the project, and would, as over a decade ago be a third +1, if needed. Thank you for your leadership. More inline. > On Mar 3, 2023, at 6:26 AM, PJ Fanning wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Apologies if anyone thinks I'm going in the wrong direction here. The TLDR > is: I am asking if PMC members could respond with whether they are still > interested in working on POI or if they are no longer in a position to help. > > There appears to only be a couple of POI PMC members that are active at this > stage (on mailing lists, dealing with bugzilla, Github commits, etc.). As I said, I am on standby as I have been for years. Given the following choices which would be most important. 1. We gave fully moved to Git from SVN? If so I can help with the messaging. 2. We will always need to keep bugzilla, but it could help to switch to GitHub issues for new bugs. 3. What is the status of CI. Is it on ASF Jenkins? 4. What is the status of gradle and the build on GitHub? > > I'm not seeking anything drastic like considering retiring POI (aka moving to > the Attic). It is suggested in ASF guidelines that mature projects > occasionally do a Roll Call [1]. There doesn't appear to be many people that > we could look to invite to become committers or PMC members. > > I'm interested in continuing but would like to cut back my involvement. I am > involved in a few other ASF projects and want to concentrate on those. > > Even if we do have a few active PMC members, we might want to consider guide > lines on what sort of code changes to make and how often we intend to do > releases. > > The code base is very large and I have to admit some of patches that I merge > that are submitted by outside contributors - that I don't know that part of > the code base well and am reliant on the test coverage to pick up issues. And > we have a lot of code that does not have great test coverage. Most of the > patches come with minimal new tests - there are definitely exceptions - some > of the patches are of very high quality. Developers who provide quality patches are candidates to be committers. > > It's also hard to keep up with new features in Microsoft file formats (ie new > XSDs) and the Java Runtime is being overhauled in ways that may eventually > break some POI code. We should discuss these concerns slowly on this mailing list. Like POI was heavily dependent on XMLBeans there are other projects that are dependent on POI like Tika. This dependence is what led to Yegor’s creation of OOXML lite almost 15 years ago. Best, Dave > > Regards, > PJ > > > [1] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#move-to-attic > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@poi.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@poi.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@poi.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@poi.apache.org
Re: POI PMC roll call
On Fri, 3 Mar 2023, PJ Fanning wrote: Apologies if anyone thinks I'm going in the wrong direction here. The TLDR is: I am asking if PMC members could respond with whether they are still interested in working on POI or if they are no longer in a position to help. Still here, still watching, but I don't currently have any ringfenced time for open source work in my $DAYJOB so it's quite variable how much time I've got free to give at any point. Happy to help mentor some new people towards committership, if there's any candidates, as that (long term) gives more benefit for the time invested :) Nick - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@poi.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@poi.apache.org
Re: POI PMC roll call
i am not a PMC member, BUT as one of the multitude of contributors interested in the liveliness of POI, i am curious what is involved with keeping this project alive and moving (even if it is at a modest rate)? Stanton Fisque principal technologist latticeware.com portland, oregon > On Mar 3, 2023, at 08:14 AM, Hamza Gobir > wrote: > > I'm interested on working on tickets but I'm having issues setting up my > Dev environment. > > Are there any resources you can point me to? > > > On Fri, 3 Mar 2023, 14:26 PJ Fanning, wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> Apologies if anyone thinks I'm going in the wrong direction here. The TLDR >> is: I am asking if PMC members could respond with whether they are still >> interested in working on POI or if they are no longer in a position to help. >> >> There appears to only be a couple of POI PMC members that are active at >> this stage (on mailing lists, dealing with bugzilla, Github commits, etc.). >> >> I'm not seeking anything drastic like considering retiring POI (aka moving >> to the Attic). It is suggested in ASF guidelines that mature projects >> occasionally do a Roll Call [1]. There doesn't appear to be many people >> that we could look to invite to become committers or PMC members. >> >> I'm interested in continuing but would like to cut back my involvement. I >> am involved in a few other ASF projects and want to concentrate on those. >> >> Even if we do have a few active PMC members, we might want to consider >> guide lines on what sort of code changes to make and how often we intend to >> do releases. >> >> The code base is very large and I have to admit some of patches that I >> merge that are submitted by outside contributors - that I don't know that >> part of the code base well and am reliant on the test coverage to pick up >> issues. And we have a lot of code that does not have great test coverage. >> Most of the patches come with minimal new tests - there are definitely >> exceptions - some of the patches are of very high quality. >> >> It's also hard to keep up with new features in Microsoft file formats (ie >> new XSDs) and the Java Runtime is being overhauled in ways that may >> eventually break some POI code. >> >> Regards, >> PJ >> >> >> [1] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#move-to-attic >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@poi.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@poi.apache.org >> >> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@poi.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@poi.apache.org
Re: POI PMC roll call
I'm interested on working on tickets but I'm having issues setting up my Dev environment. Are there any resources you can point me to? On Fri, 3 Mar 2023, 14:26 PJ Fanning, wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Apologies if anyone thinks I'm going in the wrong direction here. The TLDR > is: I am asking if PMC members could respond with whether they are still > interested in working on POI or if they are no longer in a position to help. > > There appears to only be a couple of POI PMC members that are active at > this stage (on mailing lists, dealing with bugzilla, Github commits, etc.). > > I'm not seeking anything drastic like considering retiring POI (aka moving > to the Attic). It is suggested in ASF guidelines that mature projects > occasionally do a Roll Call [1]. There doesn't appear to be many people > that we could look to invite to become committers or PMC members. > > I'm interested in continuing but would like to cut back my involvement. I > am involved in a few other ASF projects and want to concentrate on those. > > Even if we do have a few active PMC members, we might want to consider > guide lines on what sort of code changes to make and how often we intend to > do releases. > > The code base is very large and I have to admit some of patches that I > merge that are submitted by outside contributors - that I don't know that > part of the code base well and am reliant on the test coverage to pick up > issues. And we have a lot of code that does not have great test coverage. > Most of the patches come with minimal new tests - there are definitely > exceptions - some of the patches are of very high quality. > > It's also hard to keep up with new features in Microsoft file formats (ie > new XSDs) and the Java Runtime is being overhauled in ways that may > eventually break some POI code. > > Regards, > PJ > > > [1] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#move-to-attic > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@poi.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@poi.apache.org > >
POI PMC roll call
Hi everyone, Apologies if anyone thinks I'm going in the wrong direction here. The TLDR is: I am asking if PMC members could respond with whether they are still interested in working on POI or if they are no longer in a position to help. There appears to only be a couple of POI PMC members that are active at this stage (on mailing lists, dealing with bugzilla, Github commits, etc.). I'm not seeking anything drastic like considering retiring POI (aka moving to the Attic). It is suggested in ASF guidelines that mature projects occasionally do a Roll Call [1]. There doesn't appear to be many people that we could look to invite to become committers or PMC members. I'm interested in continuing but would like to cut back my involvement. I am involved in a few other ASF projects and want to concentrate on those. Even if we do have a few active PMC members, we might want to consider guide lines on what sort of code changes to make and how often we intend to do releases. The code base is very large and I have to admit some of patches that I merge that are submitted by outside contributors - that I don't know that part of the code base well and am reliant on the test coverage to pick up issues. And we have a lot of code that does not have great test coverage. Most of the patches come with minimal new tests - there are definitely exceptions - some of the patches are of very high quality. It's also hard to keep up with new features in Microsoft file formats (ie new XSDs) and the Java Runtime is being overhauled in ways that may eventually break some POI code. Regards, PJ [1] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#move-to-attic - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@poi.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@poi.apache.org
