Re: [DISCUSS] Vending raw credentials in Polaris

2025-01-06 Thread Dmitri Bourlatchkov
On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 2:12 PM Eric Maynard wrote: > > why would Polaris restrict that in controlled environments > > To Michael's point, I think this kind of reasoning is a little dangerous. > We need to clearly define what Polaris will and won't support, rather than > adopting the mentality tha

Re: [DISCUSS] Vending raw credentials in Polaris

2025-01-06 Thread Eric Maynard
> why would Polaris restrict that in controlled environments To Michael's point, I think this kind of reasoning is a little dangerous. We need to clearly define what Polaris will and won't support, rather than adopting the mentality that anything is in scope so long as the admin configures it.

Re: [DISCUSS] Vending raw credentials in Polaris

2024-12-09 Thread Dmitri Bourlatchkov
Looking a bit more into the PR, I think it is primarily about avoiding an STS call rather than about "raw" credentials. I think the STS requirement can, indeed, be a blocker for some custom S3 implementations. If we want to support those, we could allow the admin user to configure a separate set

Re: [DISCUSS] Vending raw credentials in Polaris

2024-12-09 Thread Dmitri Bourlatchkov
(note: I did not review the PR) On-prem systems usually have different security perimeters than cloud systems. While vending long-term credentials by default is too risky, I agree, why would Polaris restrict that in controlled environments where the admin user explicitly wants to enable that (e.g

Re: [DISCUSS] Vending raw credentials in Polaris

2024-12-07 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi I think it should have gone via secur...@apache.org just to avoid public security discussion. Anyway that makes sense. Regards JB Le sam. 7 déc. 2024 à 19:37, Robert Stupp a écrit : > Generally I agree. Compromising security is not an option - ever. > > > On 7. Dec 2024, at 00:16, Michael

Re: [DISCUSS] Vending raw credentials in Polaris

2024-12-07 Thread Robert Stupp
Is this an issue with short-lived credentials with the recent additions to return and refresh credentials via Iceberg REST? > On 7. Dec 2024, at 00:16, Michael Collado wrote: > > Hey folks > > Someone pinged about https://github.com/apache/polaris/pull/389 yesterday > and I thought it was wort

Re: [DISCUSS] Vending raw credentials in Polaris

2024-12-07 Thread Robert Stupp
Generally I agree. Compromising security is not an option - ever. > On 7. Dec 2024, at 00:16, Michael Collado wrote: > > Hey folks > > Someone pinged about https://github.com/apache/polaris/pull/389 yesterday > and I thought it was worth bringing up for discussion. > > On-prem s3 compat sounds

[DISCUSS] Vending raw credentials in Polaris

2024-12-06 Thread Michael Collado
Hey folks Someone pinged about https://github.com/apache/polaris/pull/389 yesterday and I thought it was worth bringing up for discussion. On-prem s3 compat sounds like a super useful feature and I'm fully on board with supporting it, but I think we need to make a decision about whether we suppor