I received a plea for help from a person who is attempting to learn
how to program for the first time. They found the DrRacket download
page and were presented 5 different options for downloading DrRacket
for Mac:
Macintosh OS X (Intel i386)
Macintosh OS X (PPC)
Macintosh OS X (Intel
On Aug 10, 2011, at 11:33 PM, Guillaume Marceau gmarc...@gmail.com wrote:
Does the combo box auto detect the
downloader's platform for the User-Agent header.
Yes, in some cases when it's possible to make a guess.
If so, then the next
step is to change the layout to:
Download:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
On 06/21/11 09:50, Marijn wrote:
On 06/20/11 18:29, Matthew Flatt wrote:
I think I've found the problem and pushed a fix.
Thanks for the quick fix Matthew! 1) 2) and 3) are now working fine
:) but I do believe borders are still broken. For
Why would it damage more people?
I think it makes sense to put on the first page some kind of an
indication that this is what we guess your machine is; if you don't
know, try this one first. Perhaps not Guillaume's exact words, but
something that would help this person.
Robby
On Thu, Aug 11,
Maybe Eli is saying that 64bit is really the better default, given new
OS X defaults.
Jay
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 6:23 AM, Robby Findler
ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote:
Why would it damage more people?
I think it makes sense to put on the first page some kind of an
indication that this is
I'm not completely clear on exactly how things are working with Lion,
but it seems unlikely that 64 bit is a good default at this stage.
Robby
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:54 AM, Jay McCarthy jay.mccar...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe Eli is saying that 64bit is really the better default, given new
OS X
[switch to dev]
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 12:11 AM, Matthew Flatt mfl...@cs.utah.edu wrote:
DrRacket's interactions window has to use `eval' in the sense that it
reads an expression to evaluate and then passes it on to the program
for an answer. When you run a module in DrRacket, the
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt sa...@ccs.neu.edu wrote:
[switch to dev]
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 12:11 AM, Matthew Flatt mfl...@cs.utah.edu wrote:
DrRacket's interactions window has to use `eval' in the sense that it
reads an expression to evaluate and then passes it on
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Robby Findler
ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote:
How problematic would it be if the DrRacket interactions window didn't
make the namespace it uses for evaluation available to the expressions
being evaluated?
How would that work? Could drracket compile the
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt sa...@ccs.neu.edu wrote:
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Robby Findler
ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote:
How problematic would it be if the DrRacket interactions window didn't
make the namespace it uses for evaluation available to the
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Robby Findler
ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote:
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt sa...@ccs.neu.edu
wrote:
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Robby Findler
ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote:
How problematic would it be if the DrRacket
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt sa...@ccs.neu.edu wrote:
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Robby Findler
ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote:
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt sa...@ccs.neu.edu
wrote:
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Robby Findler
His answer was inappropriate. Our goal must be to understand
problems posed, check relevance, figure out a solution. There
is no other default mode.
On Aug 11, 2011, at 8:54 AM, Jay McCarthy wrote:
Maybe Eli is saying that 64bit is really the better default, given new
OS X defaults.
Jay
look at the firefox download page for an example:
There is a nice huge pretty button that is the download for your current
platform.
Below the big button there is a small link that says All Systems
Languages http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all.html which links
to the matrix of all
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 3:25 AM, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote:
On Aug 10, 2011, at 11:33 PM, Guillaume Marceau gmarc...@gmail.com
wrote:
Does the combo box auto detect the
downloader's platform for the User-Agent header.
Yes, in some cases when it's possible to make a guess.
I found
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Guillaume Marceau gmarc...@gmail.com wrote:
In the ambiguous cases, you can get additional information by checking for
flash. Because Adobe doesn't support flash player on x64 browsers, if
detection is successful then it is definitely a 32 bit browser, if not,
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Robby Findler
ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote:
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Guillaume Marceau gmarc...@gmail.com
wrote:
In the ambiguous cases, you can get additional information by checking for
flash. Because Adobe doesn't support flash player on
I think that maybe, given this particular choice, it makes more sense
to say, on the web page, We believe you are on a mac; the 32bit
version is the one you want, unless you're sure you want the 64bit
version, which is here. other versions there which a touch of good
design and better wording, I
I am happy to see that we are looking for solutions to a problem.
I think we should use everything we can to make the best possible guess. Then
we should use English language to inform people that we made a best possible
guess and that there are alternatives. But this language must be
Yes, my sentiments exactly.
Robby
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Matthias Felleisen
matth...@ccs.neu.edu wrote:
I am happy to see that we are looking for solutions to a problem.
I think we should use everything we can to make the best possible guess. Then
we should use English language
Guillaum, why don't you work out a concrete plan, especially the wording of the
messages to the downloader, and submit it to ELi for review. He will implement
a version of it. Thanks -- Matthias
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For list-related administrative tasks:
I'd be happy to comment on drafts too, if that's useful.
Robby
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Matthias Felleisen
matth...@ccs.neu.edu wrote:
Guillaum, why don't you work out a concrete plan, especially the wording of
the messages to the downloader, and submit it to ELi for review. He will
We also have an extensive audience on the users list and in our
individual departments. So it would be easy to circulate a draft Web
page (no fancy download or even formatting) that simply says, I'm
guessing you are using a ... -- is this correct? and get lots of
people to test (and get more
It's best to avoid working on anything concrete until I can write a
proper reply since there are more issues here. (Note: this is not an
objection to an improvement, but an attempt to avoid the kind of
damage I mnetioned earlier.
On 2011-08-11, Matthias Felleisen matth...@ccs.neu.edu wrote:
Or we can trust that the Mozilla Foundation's user interface designers has
already done the experiment. They have some of the best people of the
industry working for them, including Aza Raskin, son of Jef Raskin, one of
the original designer of the Macintosh. I see no reason to deviate from
their
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Guillaume Marceau gmarc...@gmail.com
wrote:
Or we can trust that the Mozilla Foundation's user interface designers has
already done the experiment. They have some of the best people of the
industry working for them, including Aza Raskin, son of Jef Raskin, one
Eli has asked us to wait. Please do so. He will reply in more detail
when he gets to a proper computer.
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Guillaume Marceau gmarc...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Guillaume Marceau gmarc...@gmail.com
wrote:
Or we can trust that the Mozilla
On 11.08.11 09:25, Eli Barzilay wrote:
If so, then the next
step is to change the layout to:
Download: __Macintosh OS X (Intel i386)__
(this is the version of DrRacket for your system. In rare cases,
you might need a version for a __different system__)
This will damage many more
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