[racket-dev] gtk message on startup ...

2011-08-12 Thread Karl Burkett
Morning, I've just compiled up racket 5.1.2, downloaded yesterday, on a RHEL5.7 system where everything compiled without complaint that I could see. When starting up drracket, the following message appears 21 times: Gtk: gtk_menu_attach_to_widget: assertion 'GTK_IS_MENU (menu)' failed Can I sa

Re: [racket-dev] [racket] pretty-big->#lang (was: External connection toFinndesign Liitin)

2011-08-12 Thread Jukka Tuominen
I definitely agree that consistency is essential. However, the solution makes the threshold to be able use dynamic evaluations even higher. And I find them one of the most attractice features of Scheme. Even stiching strings together and evaluate them. Again, I'm not saying that the architectu

Re: [racket-dev] The Stepper strikes again

2011-08-12 Thread Eli Barzilay
20 minutes ago, Eli Barzilay wrote: > I just noticed that Stephen added some properties to support the > syntax stepper into racket/private/promise.rkt at 6921960c. This is a > bad idea -- *please* try find a way to remove it. If all else fails, here's an idea: 5 hours ago, sa...@racket-lang.org

Re: [racket-dev] The Stepper strikes again

2011-08-12 Thread Eli Barzilay
[Ugh, please ignore this, I forgot to change the CCs.] -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ For list-related administrative tasks:

Re: [racket-dev] Downloading DrRacket for Mac is hard?

2011-08-12 Thread Eli Barzilay
Yesterday, Eli Barzilay wrote: > On Aug 10, 2011, at 11:33 PM, Guillaume Marceau wrote: > > Does the combo box auto detect the downloader's platform for the > > User-Agent header. > > Yes, in some cases when it's possible to make a guess. The main problem here is that it is *just* a guess, and v

Re: [racket-dev] Downloading DrRacket for Mac is hard?

2011-08-12 Thread Eli Barzilay
Yesterday, Matthias Felleisen wrote: > > I am happy to see that we are looking for solutions to a problem. > > I think we should use everything we can to make the best possible > guess. Then we should use English language to inform people that we > made a best possible guess and that there are al

Re: [racket-dev] Downloading DrRacket for Mac is hard?

2011-08-12 Thread Eli Barzilay
Yesterday, Guillaume Marceau wrote: > Or we can trust that the Mozilla Foundation's user interface > designers has already done the experiment. They have some of the > best people of the industry working for them, including Aza Raskin, > son of Jef Raskin, one of the original designer of the Macin

Re: [racket-dev] Downloading DrRacket for Mac is hard?

2011-08-12 Thread Matthias Felleisen
Eli, I must say I appreciate some of your concerns but some I don't comprehend. (1) My hunch is that most of our downloaders -- especially technically unsavy (what's the right word here?) people -- download one and only one thing from us. (2) We need to accommodate them mostly, not the peopl

Re: [racket-dev] Downloading DrRacket for Mac is hard?

2011-08-12 Thread Shriram Krishnamurthi
> (1) My hunch is that most of our downloaders -- especially > technically unsavy (what's the right word here?) people -- > download one and only one thing from us. And I suspect this is precisely why FF makes Windows the default (as Guillaume has shown us). Everyone who's not on Windows is acute

Re: [racket-dev] Downloading DrRacket for Mac is hard?

2011-08-12 Thread Eli Barzilay
About a minute ago, Matthias Felleisen wrote: > > Eli, I must say I appreciate some of your concerns but some > I don't comprehend. > > (1) My hunch is that most of our downloaders -- especially > technically unsavy (what's the right word here?) people -- > download one and only one thing from

Re: [racket-dev] Downloading DrRacket for Mac is hard?

2011-08-12 Thread Eli Barzilay
Three minutes ago, Shriram Krishnamurthi wrote: > > (1) My hunch is that most of our downloaders -- especially > > technically unsavy (what's the right word here?) people -- > > download one and only one thing from us. > > And I suspect this is precisely why FF makes Windows the default (as > Guil

Re: [racket-dev] Downloading DrRacket for Mac is hard?

2011-08-12 Thread Robby Findler
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Shriram Krishnamurthi wrote: >> (1) My hunch is that most of our downloaders -- especially >> technically unsavy (what's the right word here?) people -- >> download one and only one thing from us. > > And I suspect this is precisely why FF makes Windows the defaul

Re: [racket-dev] Downloading DrRacket for Mac is hard?

2011-08-12 Thread Robby Findler
Sounds like it is time for Guillaume to explore a prototype, if he's still interested in that, then. Robby On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote: > About a minute ago, Matthias Felleisen wrote: >> >> Eli, I must say I appreciate some of your concerns but some >> I don't comprehend.

Re: [racket-dev] Downloading DrRacket for Mac is hard?

2011-08-12 Thread Eli Barzilay
10 minutes ago, Robby Findler wrote: > On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Shriram Krishnamurthi > wrote: > >> (1) My hunch is that most of our downloaders -- especially > >> technically unsavy (what's the right word here?) people -- > >> download one and only one thing from us. > > > > And I suspec

[racket-dev] Plot testing and feedback

2011-08-12 Thread Neil Toronto
I've pushed the latest plot2d and plot3d to my github account. I want to know whether there are any critical differences in output or execution time among platforms. There shouldn't be any, but it's possible. Can I get a few volunteers, at least one on Windows and one on Mac, to clone it and r

Re: [racket-dev] Plot testing and feedback

2011-08-12 Thread Shriram Krishnamurthi
Windows done; specs below in case someone w/ a significantly different machine wants to try it out too: Windows 7 Home Premium 1.2 GHz ULV Intel Core i5-430UM 4 GB DDR3 RAM SATA hard drive (5400 RPM) Output is here: http://www.cs.brown.edu/~sk/tmp/neil-toronto.tgz The package looks amazing, btw

Re: [racket-dev] Plot testing and feedback

2011-08-12 Thread Jay McCarthy
OS X 10.7 Racket v5.1.2.3. http://faculty.cs.byu.edu/~jay/tmp/201108122018-osx.zip On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Neil Toronto wrote: > I've pushed the latest plot2d and plot3d to my github account. I want to > know whether there are any critical differences in output or execution time > among

Re: [racket-dev] Plot testing and feedback

2011-08-12 Thread Neil Toronto
Can I get a racket/gui expert's help on Jay's machine's output? There are two issues: 1. I have it render text with an 8 point font. On Jay's Mac, it's too small to be 8 point. Either there's some font scaling or it's erroneously choosing an 8 *pixel* font. How can we tell? 2. The Mac's get-

Re: [racket-dev] Plot testing and feedback

2011-08-12 Thread Neil Toronto
On 08/12/2011 07:04 PM, Shriram Krishnamurthi wrote: Windows done; specs below in case someone w/ a significantly different machine wants to try it out too: Windows 7 Home Premium 1.2 GHz ULV Intel Core i5-430UM 4 GB DDR3 RAM SATA hard drive (5400 RPM) Output is here: http://www.cs.brown.edu/~

Re: [racket-dev] Plot testing and feedback

2011-08-12 Thread Shriram Krishnamurthi
> 1. Racket's awesome cross-platform drawing library. Robby, is this what you were trying to sell Danny on to support in WeScheme? Shriram _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev

Re: [racket-dev] Plot testing and feedback

2011-08-12 Thread Robby Findler
Yes (for the subset that is in common with html5 (hopefully that's all of it)). Robby On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Shriram Krishnamurthi wrote: >> 1. Racket's awesome cross-platform drawing library. > > Robby, is this what you were trying to sell Danny on to support in WeScheme? > > Shriram

Re: [racket-dev] Plot testing and feedback

2011-08-12 Thread Robby Findler
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Neil Toronto wrote: > Can I get a racket/gui expert's help on Jay's machine's output? There are > two issues: > > 1. I have it render text with an 8 point font. On Jay's Mac, it's too small > to be 8 point. Either there's some font scaling or it's erroneously choos

Re: [racket-dev] Downloading DrRacket for Mac is hard?

2011-08-12 Thread Guillaume Marceau
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Shriram Krishnamurthi wrote: > And I suspect this is precisely why FF makes Windows the default (as > Guillaume has shown us).  Everyone who's not on Windows is acutely > conscious of the fact that they are not, and knows what to do about > it. FF and all the oth