Re: [racket-dev] racket-5.3.[34] compilation failure SIGSEGV MAPERR si_code 1 fault

2013-08-20 Thread Marijn
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 14-06-13 11:39, Marijn wrote: > Hi list, > > racket-5.3.3 and 5.3.4 are today both failing to compile for me > with: > > raco setup: in r5rs/private raco setup: in > typed-racket/optimizer SIGSEGV MAPERR si_code 1 fault on addr > 0x130 > > I ge

Re: [racket-dev] white bar in lhs of comment box: bug or feature?

2013-08-20 Thread Robby Findler
Looks like the images in the corners (the semicolon in this case) don't have a transparent background. If they did, then this would be a straightforward change: the code that does the drawing is in the 'draw' method in pkgs/gui-pkgs/gui-lib/framework/private/decorated-editor-snip.rkt. Robby On T

Re: [racket-dev] Revising Racket's home page

2013-08-20 Thread Alexander McLin
The new design looks good on my iPhone and on desktop. It is a good improvement over the old site. To add to Neil's comment about dividing into two sections for experienced programmers and educational outreach for aspiring programmers. One issue I often see with others when talking about Racket is

Re: [racket-dev] Revising Racket's home page

2013-08-20 Thread Nick Shelley
HtDP is how I learned to program correctly *after* I got my bachelor's in CS. I still recommend it to coworkers and other experienced programmers so they can start to learn good coding habits. On Tuesday, August 20, 2013, Alexander McLin wrote: > The new design looks good on my iPhone and on desk

Re: [racket-dev] Revising Racket's home page

2013-08-20 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:51 AM, Neil Van Dyke wrote: > Sam and Asumu, this looks like significant improvement in several ways, > thank you. > > Two comments: > > * There's a lot of stuff for a home page. I don't know whether this is good > or bad, but it's noticeable. This is intentional. I thi

Re: [racket-dev] Revising Racket's home page

2013-08-20 Thread Neil Van Dyke
Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote at 08/20/2013 09:40 AM: Are you referring to the "Quick" tutorial? I don't think that's aimed at children, per se -- just people who have no experience w/ Racket. OK, I can only offer a single data point: to me, one glance at the "Quick" tutorial looks like "educ

Re: [racket-dev] Revising Racket's home page

2013-08-20 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Neil Van Dyke wrote: > Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote at 08/20/2013 09:40 AM: > >> Are you referring to the "Quick" tutorial? I don't think that's aimed >> at children, per se -- just people who have no experience w/ Racket. >> > > > OK, I can only offer a single data

Re: [racket-dev] Revising Racket's home page

2013-08-20 Thread Neil Van Dyke
Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote at 08/20/2013 09:52 AM: Can you say more about why this is? Is it the pictures? Yes, I scroll down the page and I see pictures and a simple picture language, and it seems to be using them to introduce some pretty simple and familiar concepts, so I assume it's for

Re: [racket-dev] Revising Racket's home page

2013-08-20 Thread Eli Barzilay
I dislike the switch to something that looks less unique -- this feels more like yet-another-site of a language. I can't really put a finger on what makes that, but I think that the big factor is the dark header. (I didn't like it when Matthew initially suggested it, but I think it ended up being

Re: [racket-dev] Revising Racket's home page

2013-08-20 Thread Matthias Felleisen
On Aug 19, 2013, at 5:39 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: > 3. It puts more info on the first page. To my surprise, I like it. > 4. The font size is larger, which I think makes it much more readable. Speaking as an old person who has arrived in the age of reading glasses (I think) I am a

Re: [racket-dev] Revising Racket's home page

2013-08-20 Thread Greg Hendershott
I _really_ like the idea of giving it a fresh redesign and including more information on the home page. (comment (for-meta 1 #< wrote: > Recently I (with assistance from Asumu) have spent some time drafting > a revised home page for Racket. A revised web page will nicely > complement the big upcom

Re: [racket-dev] Revising Racket's home page

2013-08-20 Thread Greg Hendershott
> One I encourage us to use was Google Web Optimizer (free). Typo there. I meant, "One thing I encouraged us to use..." in that past life. We found it helpful. (It's not really my role to encourage Racket doing this. Instead I wanted to point it out as a possible option.) On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 a

Re: [racket-dev] Revising Racket's home page

2013-08-20 Thread Eli Barzilay
30 minutes ago, Matthias Felleisen wrote: > > All in all, I really like the idea of renovating our home page. What > I would like to see is that we get > > * a distinct home page > * one that brings across that Racket is full spectrum > technically -- you can gradually migrate from unty

Re: [racket-dev] Revising Racket's home page

2013-08-20 Thread Eli Barzilay
And a major bug (chrome, now on linux): resizing the browser doesn't reposition the text in the middle. -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developer

Re: [racket-dev] Revising Racket's home page

2013-08-20 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote: > And a major bug (chrome, now on linux): resizing the browser doesn't > reposition the text in the middle. Can you be more specific, perhaps with a screenshot? I just tried this with Chromium on Linux and it repositioned just fine. Sam

Re: [racket-dev] Revising Racket's home page

2013-08-20 Thread Eli Barzilay
Just now, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote: > > And a major bug (chrome, now on linux): resizing the browser doesn't > > reposition the text in the middle. > > Can you be more specific, perhaps with a screenshot? I just tried > this with Chromium

Re: [racket-dev] Revising Racket's home page

2013-08-20 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote: > Just now, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote: >> > And a major bug (chrome, now on linux): resizing the browser doesn't >> > reposition the text in the middle. >> >> Can you be more specific, p

Re: [racket-dev] Revising Racket's home page

2013-08-20 Thread Eli Barzilay
Just now, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote: > > > > * The "noise" background image is still at the previous place > > which is now completely bogus. > > I don't understand what's wrong with the background image. The > problem with the headings i

Re: [racket-dev] Revising Racket's home page

2013-08-20 Thread Laurent
Apologies if this has been mentioned already (too much to read), but IMHO the sections are too close to one another. I'd personally add more padding-top to the h2, even up to 1.5em. Some h2 section headers (Documentation, Learning, Community) are also too close from their section body IMO too. At f

Re: [racket-dev] Revising Racket's home page

2013-08-20 Thread Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
On Tue, Aug 20 2013, Neil Van Dyke wrote: > Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote at 08/20/2013 09:52 AM: >> Can you say more about why this is? Is it the pictures? >> > > Yes, I scroll down the page and I see pictures and a simple picture > language, and it seems to be using them to introduce some pretty

Re: [racket-dev] Revising Racket's home page

2013-08-20 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Jose A. Ortega Ruiz wrote: > On Tue, Aug 20 2013, Neil Van Dyke wrote: > >> Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote at 08/20/2013 09:52 AM: >>> Can you say more about why this is? Is it the pictures? >>> >> >> Yes, I scroll down the page and I see pictures and a simple picture >

Re: [racket-dev] Revising Racket's home page

2013-08-20 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Eli Barzilay wrote: > I dislike the switch to something that looks less unique -- this feels > more like yet-another-site of a language. I can't really put a finger > on what makes that, but I think that the big factor is the dark > header. (I didn't like it whe

Re: [racket-dev] Revising Racket's home page

2013-08-20 Thread Eli Barzilay
An hour ago, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Jose A. Ortega Ruiz wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 20 2013, Neil Van Dyke wrote: > >> > >> Yes, I scroll down the page and I see pictures and a simple > >> picture language, and it seems to be using them to introduce some > >> pret

Re: [racket-dev] Revising Racket's home page

2013-08-20 Thread Eli Barzilay
An hour ago, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Eli Barzilay wrote: > > I dislike the switch to something that looks less unique -- this > > feels more like yet-another-site of a language. I can't really > > put a finger on what makes that, but I think that the big fac

Re: [racket-dev] Revising Racket's home page

2013-08-20 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote: > An hour ago, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Eli Barzilay wrote: >> > I dislike the switch to something that looks less unique -- this >> > feels more like yet-another-site of a language. I can't really >> > p

Re: [racket-dev] Revising Racket's home page

2013-08-20 Thread Eli Barzilay
A few minutes ago, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote: > > A quick idea that popped up today re the books: have a book bar as > > in the erlang page, but with popups that have the book > > descriptions. It can be much less intrusive while keeping the

Re: [racket-dev] Revising Racket's home page

2013-08-20 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote: > A few minutes ago, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote: >> > A quick idea that popped up today re the books: have a book bar as >> > in the erlang page, but with popups that have the book >> > des

Re: [racket-dev] Revising Racket's home page

2013-08-20 Thread Eli Barzilay
A few minutes ago, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote: > > A few minutes ago, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: > >> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Eli Barzilay wrote: > >> > A quick idea that popped up today re the books: have a book bar as > >> > in the

Re: [racket-dev] Revising Racket's home page

2013-08-20 Thread John Clements
On Aug 19, 2013, at 9:17 PM, Robby Findler wrote: > This looks fantastic! Thanks! +1 I really like the "programmable programming language" slogan. John _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev

Re: [racket-dev] Revising Racket's home page

2013-08-20 Thread Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
On Wed, Aug 21 2013, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Jose A. Ortega Ruiz wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 20 2013, Neil Van Dyke wrote: >> >>> Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote at 08/20/2013 09:52 AM: Can you say more about why this is? Is it the pictures? >>> >>> Yes, I scro

Re: [racket-dev] Revising Racket's home page

2013-08-20 Thread Prabhakar Ragde
Eli wrote: Semi-Quick: take Prabhakar's intro (cs.uwaterloo.ca/~plragde/tyr/) and make it terse enough to fit a single (longish) page. I think that this is a fine choice for an aspiring hacker -- the only part that is missing, the advanced section, is probably the part that should at