Re: [racket-dev] class implementation and make-primitive-class

2014-04-18 Thread Matthias Felleisen

If a function takes 28 arguments, you probably overlooked a dozen or so. -- 
freely paraphrasing Perlis 

And you just made the best case for Typed Racket and the documentation argument 
:-) -- freely paraphrasing my own TR talk 


On Apr 17, 2014, at 2:49 PM, dfel...@ccs.neu.edu wrote:

> For a course project I've been working on adding generators to contracts for 
> use with contract-random-generate, and I've been trying to construct classes 
> and objects from simple object/c contracts. When trying to find a way to 
> functionally create a class at runtime, I came across the 
> `make-primitive-class` function in class-internal.rkt. 
> 
> This function is exported, and available at a plain racket repl, but has no 
> documentation that I have been able to find and the comments about it in 
> class-internal.rkt seem to be incorrect. 
> 
> Trying to call it from the repl has problems also, for example (ignoring for 
> a moment that the arguments aren't of the expected types)
> 
> -> (make-primitive-class #f #f 'foo object% null #f null null null null)
> ; compose-class: arity mismatch;
> ;  the expected number of arguments does not match the given number
> ;   expected: 28
> ;   given: 27
> 
> The definition is in terms of compose-class and is just missing a `null` 
> argument for the abstract-names, but even after fixing that in my local 
> branch there is a discrepancy with the comments regarding it's first argument 
> `make-struct:prim`. 
> 
> ; The `make-struct:prim' function takes prop:object, a class,
>  ;  a preparer, a dispatcher function, an unwrap property,
>  ;  an unwrapper, and a property assoc list, and produces:
>  ;* a struct constructor (must have prop:object)
>  ;* a struct predicate
>  ;* a struct type for derived classes (mustn't have prop:object)
>  ;
>  ; The supplied preparer takes a symbol and returns a num.
>  ; 
>  ; The supplied dispatcher takes an object and a num and returns a method.
>  ;
>  ; The supplied unwrap property is used for adding the unwrapper
>  ;  as a property value on new objects.
>  ;
>  ; The supplied unwrapper takes an object and returns the unwrapped
>  ;  version (or the original object).
>  ;
>  ; When a primitive class has a superclass, the struct:prim maker
>  ;  is responsible for ensuring that the returned struct items match
>  ;  the supertype predicate.
> 
> This suggests that make-struct:prim should take 7 arguments, but passing a 
> function of 7 arguments to it from the repl produces:
> 
> -> (make-primitive-class (lambda (a b c d e f g) (values #f #f #f)) #f 'foo 
> object% null #f null null null null)
> ; #: arity mismatch;
> ;  the expected number of arguments does not match the given number
> ;   expected: 7
> ;   given: 5
> 
> Also as far as I can tell `make-primitive-class` is never used in the code 
> base, it is defined in class-internal.rkt, but can be commented out without 
> seeming to break anything else. Does anyone know if there is a purpose for 
> this function, or if there is documentation somewhere on the functions I need 
> to pass it in order to construct a class. I think I'm starting to get a 
> better idea of how it might work from reading more of class-internal.rkt and 
> how the class* macro expands, but any guidance would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks
> Dan
> 
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Re: [racket-dev] class implementation and make-primitive-class

2014-04-17 Thread Daniel Feltey
That wouldn't work for this project because I need to be able to generate an 
object that satisfies a given Racket contract and can be passed to user 
functions that expect such an object so I need to use Racket's class system. I 
have a working prototype that builds class syntax then calls eval-syntax on it, 
I was just trying to figure out if there was an easy way to avoid using eval. 

Thanks again
Dan

- Original Message -
From: "Neil Van Dyke" 
To: dfel...@ccs.neu.edu
Cc: dev@racket-lang.org
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 4:17:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [racket-dev] class implementation and make-primitive-class

For purposes of your course project, couldn't you make your own 
class-instance object system, atop structs or hashes, that gives you 
whatever dynamic programming features you want?  It's very-very easy to 
do a basic one (with single inheritance and single dispatch), until you 
get into speed optimizations.

Or, if Swindle has a MOP, you could use that.

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Re: [racket-dev] class implementation and make-primitive-class

2014-04-17 Thread Neil Van Dyke
For purposes of your course project, couldn't you make your own 
class-instance object system, atop structs or hashes, that gives you 
whatever dynamic programming features you want?  It's very-very easy to 
do a basic one (with single inheritance and single dispatch), until you 
get into speed optimizations.


Or, if Swindle has a MOP, you could use that.

Neil V.

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Re: [racket-dev] class implementation and make-primitive-class

2014-04-17 Thread Matthew Flatt
The `make-primitive-class` function is a leftover from pre-v5.1 days,
where the problem was to turn a C++ object into a Racket object. I'm
not surprised that it has rotted away, it should be removed entirely,
and I doubt that it's what you would want even if it worked.

At Thu, 17 Apr 2014 14:49:40 -0400 (EDT), dfel...@ccs.neu.edu wrote:
> For a course project I've been working on adding generators to contracts for 
> use with contract-random-generate, and I've been trying to construct classes 
> and objects from simple object/c contracts. When trying to find a way to 
> functionally create a class at runtime, I came across the 
> `make-primitive-class` function in class-internal.rkt. 
> 
> This function is exported, and available at a plain racket repl, but has no 
> documentation that I have been able to find and the comments about it in 
> class-internal.rkt seem to be incorrect. 
> 
> Trying to call it from the repl has problems also, for example (ignoring for 
> a 
> moment that the arguments aren't of the expected types)
> 
> -> (make-primitive-class #f #f 'foo object% null #f null null null null)
> ; compose-class: arity mismatch;
> ;  the expected number of arguments does not match the given number
> ;   expected: 28
> ;   given: 27
> 
> The definition is in terms of compose-class and is just missing a `null` 
> argument for the abstract-names, but even after fixing that in my local 
> branch 
> there is a discrepancy with the comments regarding it's first argument 
> `make-struct:prim`. 
> 
> ; The `make-struct:prim' function takes prop:object, a class,
>   ;  a preparer, a dispatcher function, an unwrap property,
>   ;  an unwrapper, and a property assoc list, and produces:
>   ;* a struct constructor (must have prop:object)
>   ;* a struct predicate
>   ;* a struct type for derived classes (mustn't have prop:object)
>   ;
>   ; The supplied preparer takes a symbol and returns a num.
>   ; 
>   ; The supplied dispatcher takes an object and a num and returns a method.
>   ;
>   ; The supplied unwrap property is used for adding the unwrapper
>   ;  as a property value on new objects.
>   ;
>   ; The supplied unwrapper takes an object and returns the unwrapped
>   ;  version (or the original object).
>   ;
>   ; When a primitive class has a superclass, the struct:prim maker
>   ;  is responsible for ensuring that the returned struct items match
>   ;  the supertype predicate.
> 
> This suggests that make-struct:prim should take 7 arguments, but passing a 
> function of 7 arguments to it from the repl produces:
> 
> -> (make-primitive-class (lambda (a b c d e f g) (values #f #f #f)) #f 'foo 
> object% null #f null null null null)
> ; #: arity mismatch;
> ;  the expected number of arguments does not match the given number
> ;   expected: 7
> ;   given: 5
> 
> Also as far as I can tell `make-primitive-class` is never used in the code 
> base, it is defined in class-internal.rkt, but can be commented out without 
> seeming to break anything else. Does anyone know if there is a purpose for 
> this 
> function, or if there is documentation somewhere on the functions I need to 
> pass it in order to construct a class. I think I'm starting to get a better 
> idea of how it might work from reading more of class-internal.rkt and how the 
> class* macro expands, but any guidance would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks
> Dan
> 
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[racket-dev] class implementation and make-primitive-class

2014-04-17 Thread dfeltey
For a course project I've been working on adding generators to contracts for 
use with contract-random-generate, and I've been trying to construct classes 
and objects from simple object/c contracts. When trying to find a way to 
functionally create a class at runtime, I came across the 
`make-primitive-class` function in class-internal.rkt. 

This function is exported, and available at a plain racket repl, but has no 
documentation that I have been able to find and the comments about it in 
class-internal.rkt seem to be incorrect. 

Trying to call it from the repl has problems also, for example (ignoring for a 
moment that the arguments aren't of the expected types)

-> (make-primitive-class #f #f 'foo object% null #f null null null null)
; compose-class: arity mismatch;
;  the expected number of arguments does not match the given number
;   expected: 28
;   given: 27

The definition is in terms of compose-class and is just missing a `null` 
argument for the abstract-names, but even after fixing that in my local branch 
there is a discrepancy with the comments regarding it's first argument 
`make-struct:prim`. 

; The `make-struct:prim' function takes prop:object, a class,
  ;  a preparer, a dispatcher function, an unwrap property,
  ;  an unwrapper, and a property assoc list, and produces:
  ;* a struct constructor (must have prop:object)
  ;* a struct predicate
  ;* a struct type for derived classes (mustn't have prop:object)
  ;
  ; The supplied preparer takes a symbol and returns a num.
  ; 
  ; The supplied dispatcher takes an object and a num and returns a method.
  ;
  ; The supplied unwrap property is used for adding the unwrapper
  ;  as a property value on new objects.
  ;
  ; The supplied unwrapper takes an object and returns the unwrapped
  ;  version (or the original object).
  ;
  ; When a primitive class has a superclass, the struct:prim maker
  ;  is responsible for ensuring that the returned struct items match
  ;  the supertype predicate.

This suggests that make-struct:prim should take 7 arguments, but passing a 
function of 7 arguments to it from the repl produces:

-> (make-primitive-class (lambda (a b c d e f g) (values #f #f #f)) #f 'foo 
object% null #f null null null null)
; #: arity mismatch;
;  the expected number of arguments does not match the given number
;   expected: 7
;   given: 5

Also as far as I can tell `make-primitive-class` is never used in the code 
base, it is defined in class-internal.rkt, but can be commented out without 
seeming to break anything else. Does anyone know if there is a purpose for this 
function, or if there is documentation somewhere on the functions I need to 
pass it in order to construct a class. I think I'm starting to get a better 
idea of how it might work from reading more of class-internal.rkt and how the 
class* macro expands, but any guidance would be appreciated.

Thanks
Dan

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