Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation?

2017-11-30 Thread Josh Elser

/me gets out soapbox

Let's remember that incubation at the ASF is *not* about technical 
quality of the software. Incubation is about understanding the way that 
projects are operated at the ASF. This means that the key areas are:


* A diverse community of folks working on a project (not just one 
company, group, etc) to prevent the project from immediately dying if 
that group stops contributing.
* The ability to make valid Apache releases (licensing/copyright 
concerns and ASF policies)
* Community members who embrace community development and the "Apache 
Way": all work and decisions done in the public, merit given to those 
deserving, etc.


The podlings handling of their last release (and licensing issues) gave 
me confidence that they are very close. There will always be a "we 
should fix $x", and that shouldn't be something that holds up graduation 
(except in extreme situations around license incompatibility).


On 11/30/17 7:02 AM, Puja Valiyil wrote:

Hi Eric,
I think the graduation process would take several months.  The rdf4j upgrade is 
likely to be merged in prior to that.
What's the status of that pr?  I know Eric white and a few other developers 
were helping the original author with it, but it fell off my radar over 
thanksgiving.  Did we make a decision about how to support legacy users 
(maintaining a 3.x branch and pulling the rdf 4j upgrade as. 4.x change since 
it's a breaking change)?

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 30, 2017, at 5:20 AM, Erik Bijsterbosch  wrote:

Hi all,

Shouldn't code for OpenRDF be refactored to RDF4J for graduation?

Regards,
Erik

2017-11-22 23:55 GMT+01:00 Josh Elser :


Hiya,

(Disclaimer, I have not crunched any numbers yet about diversity, traffic,
etc)

I was thinking the other day that Rya is "old" enough that we should start
thinking about graduation[1], and, if we don't think it's ready, let's set
concrete/actionable goals which people can push towards to get the podling
to graduation.

Thoughts/Opinions?

- Josh

[1] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html



Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation?

2017-11-30 Thread Puja Valiyil
Hi Eric,
I think the graduation process would take several months.  The rdf4j upgrade is 
likely to be merged in prior to that.  
What's the status of that pr?  I know Eric white and a few other developers 
were helping the original author with it, but it fell off my radar over 
thanksgiving.  Did we make a decision about how to support legacy users 
(maintaining a 3.x branch and pulling the rdf 4j upgrade as. 4.x change since 
it's a breaking change)?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 30, 2017, at 5:20 AM, Erik Bijsterbosch  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Shouldn't code for OpenRDF be refactored to RDF4J for graduation?
> 
> Regards,
> Erik
> 
> 2017-11-22 23:55 GMT+01:00 Josh Elser :
> 
>> Hiya,
>> 
>> (Disclaimer, I have not crunched any numbers yet about diversity, traffic,
>> etc)
>> 
>> I was thinking the other day that Rya is "old" enough that we should start
>> thinking about graduation[1], and, if we don't think it's ready, let's set
>> concrete/actionable goals which people can push towards to get the podling
>> to graduation.
>> 
>> Thoughts/Opinions?
>> 
>> - Josh
>> 
>> [1] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html
>> 


Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation?

2017-11-30 Thread Erik Bijsterbosch
Hi all,

Shouldn't code for OpenRDF be refactored to RDF4J for graduation?

Regards,
Erik

2017-11-22 23:55 GMT+01:00 Josh Elser :

> Hiya,
>
> (Disclaimer, I have not crunched any numbers yet about diversity, traffic,
> etc)
>
> I was thinking the other day that Rya is "old" enough that we should start
> thinking about graduation[1], and, if we don't think it's ready, let's set
> concrete/actionable goals which people can push towards to get the podling
> to graduation.
>
> Thoughts/Opinions?
>
> - Josh
>
> [1] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html
>