Re: [sc-dev] Microsoft testing Excel for supercomputers

2009-11-24 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Maho, On Friday, 2009-11-20 12:32:09 +0900, Maho NAKATA wrote: > My idea is just a not a special and very simple. > > If we do vector-vector, vector-matrix, matrix-matrix multiplication etc, > > *just call BLAS and LAPACK* We don't do much of these operations, only in some context of sprea

Re: [sc-dev] Microsoft testing Excel for supercomputers

2009-11-19 Thread Maho NAKATA
another note; wrt BLAS optimization, Gotoh Kazushige-san always talks about "data transfer speed". Current bottleneck to BLAS implementation is data transfer rate. That's why level1, 2 are not so accelerated. Level3-BLAS (dgemm etc) are very fast because we can reuse many data. Naively, theoreti

Re: [sc-dev] Microsoft testing Excel for supercomputers

2009-11-19 Thread Maho NAKATA
Just a bit more; for multi-cores, we should use parallel version of BLAS, LAPACK (like ATLAS, via pthread) for clusters (many machines) we should use ScaLAPACK. So we can do more with small effort :-) I'm not sure which LP solver is the fastest. And currently lpsolve in OOo source code tree does

Re: [sc-dev] Microsoft testing Excel for supercomputers

2009-11-19 Thread Maho NAKATA
From: Kohei Yoshida Subject: Re: [sc-dev] Microsoft testing Excel for supercomputers Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:07:57 -0500 > So, I know little about parallel computing or clustered computing, and I > do know that this is your area of expertise. With that in mind, I'd > like t

Re: [sc-dev] Microsoft testing Excel for supercomputers

2009-11-19 Thread Kohei Yoshida
On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 16:19 +0100, Niklas Nebel wrote: > On 11/19/09 16:00, Kohei Yoshida wrote: > > On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 09:25 +0100, Erich Neuwirth wrote: > >> Hello, > >> Excel 2007 already does parallel computing. > >> A spreadsheet program internally creates a dependency graph > >> of the cel

Re: [sc-dev] Microsoft testing Excel for supercomputers

2009-11-19 Thread Niklas Nebel
On 11/19/09 16:00, Kohei Yoshida wrote: On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 09:25 +0100, Erich Neuwirth wrote: Hello, Excel 2007 already does parallel computing. A spreadsheet program internally creates a dependency graph of the cells. A dependency graph also knows which parts of a complex calculation are not

Re: [sc-dev] Microsoft testing Excel for supercomputers

2009-11-19 Thread Kohei Yoshida
Hi Eric, On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 09:25 +0100, Erich Neuwirth wrote: > Hello, > Excel 2007 already does parallel computing. > A spreadsheet program internally creates a dependency graph > of the cells. A dependency graph also knows which parts > of a complex calculation are not dependent on each othe

Re: [sc-dev] Microsoft testing Excel for supercomputers

2009-11-19 Thread Erich Neuwirth
Hello, Excel 2007 already does parallel computing. A spreadsheet program internally creates a dependency graph of the cells. A dependency graph also knows which parts of a complex calculation are not dependent on each other, and therefore can be run in parallel. Excel 2007 does this parallel comput

Re: [sc-dev] Microsoft testing Excel for supercomputers

2009-11-18 Thread Kohei Yoshida
Hello Maho-san, On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 12:34 +0900, Maho NAKATA wrote: > http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10398590-56.html > > > At a key supercomputing conference on Monday, Microsoft released > > a test version of its Excel spreadsheet redesigned to run on powerful > > clusters of servers. >

[sc-dev] Microsoft testing Excel for supercomputers

2009-11-18 Thread Maho NAKATA
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10398590-56.html > At a key supercomputing conference on Monday, Microsoft released > a test version of its Excel spreadsheet redesigned to run on powerful > clusters of servers. Very interesting news to me. I didn't attend SC09, though. > By engineering Excel